Skirt rolling hell!

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My year 7 (11 year old) is rolling her skirt up just under the bum (no joke) as soon as she gets to school and has it like that when we collect her. I am absolutely appalled and disgusted that the school allow the girls to wear skirts like this and it’s become part of the school culture.

I know girls have always been rolling their skirts up , but to this level is absolutely disgusting. The school have a duty of care and by allowing the older girls to get away with it, they then influence the very young girls in year 7, who are not even teenagers!

My daughter will roll it down around us but as soon she gets to school she hitches it up again. She does this to ‘fit in’ I am appalled and enraged. I’ve sent a complaint to school but I’m still disgusted it’s even going on.

No words.

Collected my 4yo DD from Reception the other day and had to stifle a laugh as the teacher was trying to have a discreet word with the dad of a little girl that he had sent in wearing just polo shirt, cardi and tights, no skirt or pinafore. He did seem to get that something was missing and thought the tights were akin to leggings. Not quite the same thing but made me think of this thread!

I’m shocked at those who are quite blasé about rolling them up on the grounds that we all did it too. Surely it’s only now that they’re pulling up to the extent that it’s almost pornographic - yes at least wearing shorts mitigates that but a lot of girls where I am proudly & defiantly don’t wear the shorts. Believe me it’s horribly uncomfortable to see them. It’s pornographic the way they look & pornographic the way men leer (even more than ever now) at what are children going to & from their school. It’s all kinds of wrong.

Pick your battles. It's a small act of rebellion against stupid uniform rules. I'd have chosen schools with no uniform were they available.

You have the problem if you think it's "pornographic". What a horrific thing to even think.

What an absolute load of weird misogynistic rubbish.

At least she's not vaping, smoking, or kissing people behind the shed or whanot

That you cannot see how highly sexualised it looks is a concern IMO.

If you think an 11 year old girl going about her day can EVER look pornographic you are fucking twisted.

I’m more shocked that you think a child is complicit in an act of pornography. Well actually no I’m not as many women sadly have this point of view.

@TorroFerney mine is exactly the same (rule oriented etc) and the pleated skirt was grammar (she has left now to sixth form) the headteacher tried measuring but the male teachers found it awkward, they have tried the detentions and negatives but still no joy and this a a high performaning grammar with the demographic to suit

DS school has a new headteacher she tried to ban the usual mufti at half term due to uniform infringement and lots didn’t care the others protested and didn’t bring in stuff for food bank

all the schools round here have the same issue with different approaches and it is still an issue at all (and different style skirts)

DD moved to all boys school that takes girls at sixth form she doesn’t do the final bum roll though and wears Nike pros underneath that is the compromise

It’s absolutely terrifying how some women do mental gymnastics to make it a child’s fault. I was sexually assaulted when I was 11, a male came into my hotel room in the night - parents in the bar of course. It was someone that I’d been talking to in the day an older teenager ( I didn’t tell my parents that as I thought I’d be in trouble) . I remember my mum the day after saying to my dad something along the lines of it wasn’t as if I’d not been dressed provocatively in the holiday . I can only assume that, if I had, I couldn’t have complained that this lad had followed us, waited til my mum and dad had gone out and then just before midnight had climbed through the bathroom window , got into bed with me and assaulted me.

What kind of school allows this?!

Trousers are surely the answer? Throw all the skirts away since she cant be trusted.

Whilst to the 11-year-old this is just a cool thing that her friends/the older girls do, it still has its origins in the way society sexualises girls and women. Time to teach her some proper feminism - that often our apparently free choices are unconsciously shaped by misogynistic culture.

And whether mum did it or not doesn't matter. Being an adult means admitting you know better than you did when you were a child. Lots of us did things in secondary school we wish someone had told us not to.

Completely agree.
BTW @TorroFerney I’m not accusing a child of being complicit in pornography nor am I victim blaming a young girl for her clothing inciting male unwanted sexual attention.

These are girls however that are vulnerable in the sense that they are unaware of the impact of what their wearing can have & how they’re being constructed & manipulated by peer pressure, rebelion & fashion - which is heavily influenced by music & sadly porn culture & the trend of displaying one’s body in full graphic detail to the point that your genitals are exposed.

Surely the juxtaposition of that in a child in school uniform is not lost on anyone? Porn culture has invaded every aspect of our young people’s lives & minds via the horribly sexualised online free for all our young minds are growing up in. Another sorry fact. I am in no way blaming these girls for their actions. Unfortunately as a rite of passage of rebellion, fitting in with one’s peers & expressing individuality from their parents, this practise has for them horribly unknowing implications, they are too young to truly know about or understand.

But then if you think a woman can only get taken seriously as a musician or artist unless she strips down to her underwear to play said music while apeing sexualised positions to play to the male gaze, then of course you’re bound to think it’s ok. I don’t. I think it’s sad. Women’s bodies are indoctrinated from a young age to be sexualised & commodified. I think the argument that women deciding to display themselves in this way is Neo feminism in action is absolute BS. But this is a forum & different opinions are allowed to be expressed so this just my view.

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Are you sure the school is allowing it within the school grounds? My child’s secondary school had the same problem but the girls only do it before and after school as within school they get themselves sanctioned for incorrect uniform.

My partner has full custody of his year 7 11 year old and he is complaining to her school about this very thing. he said it's disgusting but as you said it's become culture. My 12 year old year 8 boy has noticed it and said it's nasty that her butt is hanging out. 😅

This is the most pointless hill to die on.

I’d also question why you’re so “disgusted”. It’s a curious choice of word.

You appear to have mixed up your P words.

I'm with you, very intolerant about things like this and sod the "it's always been like this" responses. If it's a pleated style, maybe do what I did - sew lolly sticks vertically down the waistband/pleats. Can't be rolled then! Second option is provide only trousers. Third option is to turn up to parent's evening with your own skirt arse high, with your child. Omg please post a pic if you do this!! I'm team mum, you gotta do what you gotta do!

This - if they are doing it to impress the boys, it doesn't work. The boys think it looks ridiculous!
I really hoped that when the long skirt look became a fashion this would die a death but alas not.

I remember my daughters doing this and they are now 37 and 35 and mothers themselves ! One is herself a teacher and has the audacity to talk about girls doing this in her school ! I remind her of , and she looked worse with the over the knee black socks - it’s what they do !

It isn’t about the boys though at all

@Goingbonkers247 i find your partner idea it is digusting not sitting right. I don’t like the trend either but that word for your daughter just doesn’t sit right

Oh my god I am so so sorry this happened you, no words, that’s just horrific xxx

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