Pregnant again after multiple mc, VERY cautiously excited

[HeighHo]

Hello Panda, Rainbow and anyone else in this situation. Let's hold each other's hands through these first few terrifying weeks

Hi Rainbow, sorry I don't know anything about cysts, but some of my earlier pain was just on my left side and (having been checked out by the emergency GP last weekend) I put it down to stretching and increased blood flow and embryo burrowing in - completely unscientific, but made me feel better about worrying pain feelings .

Am feeling a bit positive at the moment and am cautiously excited about tomorrow, not got to 7 weeks since mc in Sept 08 at 11 weeks. Also DH and I had nice talk about preg and were joking about twins (he said something about me eating for 3 by mistake!), which made me laugh and him look horrified

Hi Oops, how are you doing?

By the way, meant to add that I had been a bit concerned about whether pain could have meant ectopic (last mc was suspected ectopic, but not confirmed), but the GP said that they normally only get big enough to cause serious pain from 7 weeks onwards, which didn't rule out possible ectopic, but meant I should seek medical help if it continued or got worse - so maybe you should ring the out of hours GP just to check x Take Care x

Just wanted to send you all very un-mumsnetty hugs and positive vibes.

I do know what you are going through, having many problems years ago that I won't bore you with, but this included multiple MCs, now we have 5 DCs. I know what it is like to spend months running in and out of the loo "just to check".

You are so right to say "one day at a time". The thought of 9 months is just too huge. Cope with today. I am hoping and praying that you all make it this time.

Hope you don't mind me butting in like this. Good luck to you all.

Ah, PositiveAttitude, how kind of you. I'm trying to remind myself that it could all go wrong, but it could all go OK this time and worrying won't make any difference

Wow five children - that's amazing. Thanks for your kind words x

PositiveAttitude - thank you for coming and giving us reassurance, it is good to hear from someone who has been though all this and come out the other side. I really appriciate you coming to tell us your story.

How's the pain, Rainbow?

Rianbow - {{HUGS}} I had a horrible pain in my side at 5/6 weeks too and ended up seeing the GP who said it was more than likely just stretching but if it got to the point where I needed painkillers and staeted bleeding to head to A&E. It turns out it is the side baby has implanted on. He said your uterus starts out (very basically) with all it's walls touching then this little ball of fast growing cells pushed itself in and stretchs everything very fast as it grows almost doubling in sized every day or so. any muscle being stretch at that rate is bound to ache quite alot in those first weeks. HTH

Heighho -Good luck for the scan tomorrow I will keep eerthing crossed for you. What time is your scan?

Ah, you are lovely. It is at 11.0, am excited, but scared, not surprisingly. Probs won't be able to get to computer til later in the afternoon, but will post as soon as I can.

Thank you for your support - am getting some grief from DH for obsessively checking mumsnet but have tried to explain that I cannnot get support from RL friends as no one but my sis knows (also, sadly, friends tend to look a bit pained when I tell them I'm preg due to mc history, when I want them to be pleased for me. I understand completely why they are worried for me, but some congratulations would be good ).
Anyway, appreciate all support on here, even if DH thinks I'm a mn loon

Hi all,

Just popping in to wave at rainbow and say I'm thinking of you every day and sending you sticky vibes to get you through these 12 weeks...

Extending sticky vibes to everyone, you've all been through so much (I had 2 losses before falling pg with this one) and I know how I felt just wanting to fall asleep when I got my BFP and not wake up until my 12 week scan!

xxx

HeighHo - just checking in to see how it went. Was thinking of you as we sat in Pizza express!

Thanks, Oops. All fine, saw a lovely heartbeat, measuring correct for 7 weeks, then she said 'and over here we have another heartbeat'!!!!!

Also measuring good for 7 weeks.

We both teared up a bit, shock, horror, amazement, then sat there waiting to talk to the doctor for an hour, feeling awful, then delighted, then terrified again.

Obviously thrilled to see healthy heartbeats, but it could still go wrong and the risks with twins all increase, so risk of mc is even worse now!!! aaaaargh, don't really know what to think.

will post more later

How absolutely FANTASTIC. Yes things can still go wrong but they are both there and growing todates. Did they notice if they were in seperate sacs or do you have to go back later for that?

• 2 for each little bean!

HeighHo - What wonderful news. you need double hugs now then!

Hope all continues to ge well. I will be a nosey caring lurker to find out how you all do on here!

OMG! Well congrats on seeing the heartbeats, although what a surprise, I bet that wasn't what you were expecting at all! Will be thinking of you. When do they want another scan?

Aw, thank you all. Am still in complete shock

Was lovely seeing the heartbeats. I think she said they were in separate sacs. The sonographer thought they were non-identical because there was quite a bit gap between them, but the doc said they could still be identical where the egg split very early on.

We've got another scan in two weeks, hope it's all ok til then

hi

i just thought i would pop on and say a MASSIVE CONGRATS to HeighHo wonderful news

xx ei xx

Thanks Panda, that's kind. Feel that it has just increased our risk factors for mc, so trying hard to stay positive.

How are you feeling?

Panda - hope you are coping okay. Have you made a GP appointment yet?

HeighHo - only 2 weeks until you see them again now it's just one day at a time for 14 days, then you will be 9 weeks and closer to the magical 12 week mark. Do you have a due date now?

not too bad thanks DH and I have decided we need a little break from TTC as we have been 'at it' for nearly 2 and a half years this last MC/CP took its toll and we both need some distance from the stress for a while i am determined that we will get our baby number 2 one way or another so we are investigating our funds for possible fertility treatment (drugs more likely than IVF, plus risk factors are too high so i wouldnt qualify anyway) i have an appointment on friday to discuss everything with my GP and we will see where we can go from there no TTC this cycle though so me and DH can have some well deserved stress free sex

try not to worry (impossible i know) you have seen the heartbeats and all is well the risk of MC is significantly smaller if you see a HB on scan and it reduces every day too

Thanks, PandaEis.

That sounds like a good plan. 2 and a half years is a long time to be on this rollercoaster, such highs, but such horrific lows too poor you. We had 3 months off after our 5th mc in a row (6th overall), which was difficult to agree to at first due to my age (41) as it felt like every month mattered. However once I realised my body needed a break, it was a bit of a relief - weird using contraception again though . Really good luck with your decision making. I hope your GP is sympathetic and clued up to all the options. Thinking of you. Let us know. Take care of yourself x

Panda - really thinking of you - was wondering whether you had heard of foresight - if you are going to take a few months off TTC, its something you might want to think about - I know its not for everyone but thought I'd post anyway.

foresight

interesting link MNWL i have heard of the hair sample thing but we are pretty sure what our problem is so i would be reluctant to pay for something like that just yet ahh well we will have to see what the GP has to say and then take things from there

Panda - fair enough, and if you lead a healthy lifestyle might be unlikely they'd find anything that bad in your hair... although when I had it done both me and DH had toxic levels of mercury, and my zinc levels were very low - I wasn't ovulating because of PCOS and I like to think that following the programme helped improve fertility in general.

Good idea to discuss with GP, esp if you have a feel for what problem is.

Heighho - huge congratulations, double-ly so!!!! . So happy for you. To think that they are both measuring right and have heartbeats is more than exciting. So reassuring, and looks like these are here to stay for you. So happy for you that you have two little fighters there.

My update. I had a scan yesterday too, due to the pain, but they could not see anything, it is too early, hcg level came back at 750 so not surprising they could not see anything. I have to have further blood test for hcg level on wednesday. I am 41 like heighho too, and with more pregnancies (I am now on number 10!) and greater age I know the risk of multiples goes up, so it had been in my mind that I would be at risk of a multiple pregnancy, but I have had hcg levels done and they say I just have one cooking so I will not have the shock that heighho had yesterday.

Kat- thanks for checking up on me too!!!

Panda - I think taking a break from ttc is a good idea, but it would be a very good time to start tracking your cycle too. I have all the information from the fertility clinic that I went too if you want I could send it too you? It would be fairly easy for you to get tracking your cycle and get your gp to do the necessary blood tests, that way you would have a really good idea if any treatments (such as progesterone) are a good idea to try next time. email me if you would like the information.

Oh Panda, I'm so so sorry, it's so .

I'm new to mumsnet, this being my first post. But Panda you must go and get a referral from your gp, the hospitals are great in my experience for us who have multiple miscarriages. My hospital and specialist has done anything and everything for me after 7 miscarriages, hopefully you will get the same treatment at your hospital.

Some hope for you on this posting though. After 7 miscarriages, and no treatment at all, I am currently 35 weeks pregnant. I never thought I'd get here, never, and still have not got any baby items, incase it brings us bad luck.... I think little one will be sleeping in a pulled out drawer wrapped up in a towel if I don't do something soon ... lol! Seriously though, after 3 miscarriages you should always get a referral to a speacialist by your gp (I know . . . . why should we have to go through this 3 times, once is hard enough!). The specialist should then run every test going, and offering early scans, rather than having to wait till the 13 week scan, putting your mind at ease, which always helps.

My only advice is, don't give up..... I nearly did, but miracles do happen! Good luck x