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Another lady lost her baby in Portugal at 34 weeks after having the swine flu jab.....

65 replies

LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 12:32

I know it's probably unrelated, but what if it isn't?

I had the Pandermix yesterday (I'm 26 weeks) and I'm regretting it now...

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Pinkjenny · 18/11/2009 12:40

Do you have a link? What do you mean, another? Have there been others?

Scorps · 18/11/2009 12:43

You need to put more info.

GhoulsAreLoud · 18/11/2009 12:48

Another?

Who were the others?

Where is the link please?

What was the cause of her losing the baby?

GhoulsAreLoud · 18/11/2009 13:00

What a stupid, scaremongering thread.

manfrom · 18/11/2009 13:03

Another round of vaccine hysteria awaits. Yipee.

DarrellRivers · 18/11/2009 13:04

I agree re the scaremongering
This may well be similar to the death of that girl after the HPV vaccine
She turned out to have a undiagnosed congenital lung or heart problem which caused her death rather than the vaccine
There will be such a thing as coincidence in the timing
Wait until we have all the information

LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 13:21

GhoulsAreKoud - surely an unnecessary post?

Last week a lady in Portugal lost her baby at 34 weeks 3 days after having the vacine (pandermix). There were no previous problems, other than a fast heart rate detected in the baby and the fact that the mother was on anti-depressants. She felt lots of movements straight after having the jab and then none in the next couple of days. There was an autopsy done on the baby and the death causes are non-conclusive. Authorities there claimed that it was coincidental and that a baby dies every day at that gestational age.
I believed it - coincidences happen and with the hype about the vaccine everything will be reported and correlated to it.

Today another similar case was on the news. Same gest. age - 34 weeks. Baby dies 5 days after the vaccine. They're still claiming it's a coincidence, but I don't believe it now... Two in the same week....

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LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 13:25

There will be more information on the second baby this afternoon. They're saying that it had the cord wraped around the neck, but don't know if that was the cause of death.

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scottishmummy · 18/11/2009 13:27

all medications prescription only or across counter have risk and contra-indication.are exact circumstances known?

understandably this is alarming and scary but doent mean it is a universal risk

MarshaBrady · 18/11/2009 13:31

Tugamommy do you have a link to the news article? thanks

LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 13:32

The authorities are very eager to disprove any correlation so if there was a chance the prescription only medication this aldy was on could have caused it I think it would have been mentioned... But it's possible I suppose

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LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 13:34

One link here. Don't know how to get it translated

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jaype · 18/11/2009 13:35

Can't find a thing about this on Google I'm afraid (either case). Nor is it on the JABS website. Sorry, but please provide links or stop scaring people unnecessarily.

madmissy · 18/11/2009 13:38

no way would i have this jab its new and no way of saying...
35+2wk

jaype · 18/11/2009 13:38

Google translate of above link, (cross posted):

The CUF Hospital of Discoveries in Lisbon, said this Wednesday in a statement to TSF, problems had been found in the umbilical cord in the fetus died days after his mother had taken the vaccine against influenza A.

Email this Link

Manuel Pizarro, Secretary of State for Health, says that the emergence of fetal death occurs regardless of the vaccine

On Monday it was a known case of a pregnant woman who lost her fetus days after having the vaccine against influenza A and was assisted in the CUF Hospital Discoveries in Lisbon.
This was the second similar case registered in Portugal within 48 hours after a woman from Porto have lost the fetus on Saturday.
The Hospital CUF Discoveries told TSF that the umbilical cord was wrapped around the fetus, but refused to conclude that that was the cause of death, referring further clarification from the late morning on Wednesday.
Although the two cases, health officials insist there is no reason why pregnant women refuse the vaccine against influenza A and reiterate that it is wrong to establish a cause-effect relationship between taking the vaccine and the death of two fetuses in Portugal.
Speaking to the TSF, the Secretary of State for Health said it was not until the investigations are being made, but explained that it is the normal appearance of these cases.
At this time, "almost all pregnant women in late pregnancy" are to be vaccinated against influenza A, so that "this point of view to realize that the fetal deaths that usually occur in women flocked who were vaccinated," said Manuel Pizarro.
The Directorate General of Health (DGS) has also to avoid the possibility of a relationship between these cases and the vaccine against influenza A.

LaCerbiatta · 18/11/2009 13:42

I'm sorry if I'm scaring everyone ... I had posted about this in another thread (the very long one about are you /are you not having the vaccine) and no one commented so I didn't think people were too interested or taking it too seriously... It was only when there was a second case that I decided to start a thread

I'm definitely not scaremongering or deliberately trying to scare everyone....

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mama2moo · 18/11/2009 13:43

OMG. I hadnt heard of these stories before now. Very very worrying.

I had convinced myself to have the jab but am now very unsure again. Im 30 weeks.

mama2moo · 18/11/2009 13:44

Thanks for posting it. I am going to look into it some more again now and see what else I can find.

Loads of pg women I know are having the jab now. Im waiting for my letter...

mama2moo · 18/11/2009 13:48

Interesting what it says about abortions I guess they should have put losses?

MadameDuBain · 18/11/2009 13:53

This may sound cold and I don't actually feel that way at all, I'm as anxious as anyone - but - it is quite likely that with a lot of pg women having the jab, tragic complications of pregnancy, that happen anyway, are going to coincide with one or two women having just been vaccinated. However, even if there is a link, I think I would rather a very small risk of the baby dying, than the fairly small but very worrying risk of something happening to me (and therefore the baby too) if I get SF. I have a DS who needs me and that's my main concern when considering the vaccine.

I am still intending to have the vaccine, and am booked for it tomorrow. I'm scared and will worry a lot afterwards and really hope everything is OK, but statistically, this isn't enough to change my mind at the moment.

mama2moo · 18/11/2009 13:54

Thats what a lot of articles I have read say, it is pure coincidence that they died after the jab.

I am thinking maybe I will book a midwife appointment for a day or two after the jab just to make sure baby is ok.

comeonbishbosh · 18/11/2009 13:58

Is it possible to keep all swine flu threads to the 'swine flu' board in the health section? I thought the idea was to have discussions in there so that those of us who are past the point of caring about this, or have made their decision and just want to get on with their life, can happily ignore it.

Getting a bit fed up with repeats of arguements and feeding of hysteria from the press at large.

And for my part I'll try not to get drawn into clicking on the damn things!

mosschops30 · 18/11/2009 14:00

There are currently 4 women in my local hospital ITU, critically ill with SF. It is a very real risk that we dont get to hear about every day (but I think we should). I have had Pandemrix so that I am alive for my children and to protect myself and my baby. I dont understand why anyone wouldnt want it on the basis that someone died after having the jab, with no proven link.
When there is a proven link, we can have a sensible discussion about it.

Threads like this are not helpful for anyone, they serve no purpose other than to frighten those whove had it, or put off those who are about to have it.

madmissy · 18/11/2009 14:06

just a added worry to pregnancy. and anyway whats to debate you either agree and have or you don't

GhoulsAreLoud · 18/11/2009 14:06

An unnecessary post?

I don't think so.

Not if it makes you think twice about starting threads with frightening titles and then not coming back to post the facts for nearly an hour.

Why do that?

What if someone was about to leave for a SF vaccination when you posted your thread and disappeared?

A bit of sensitivity to how many people are feeling about this wou;dnt go amiss.

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