40's + Mums and Mums to Be.

[johnworf]

Hello, good evening, and welcome. Our ovaries are tired and withered but we've still managed it despite what the Daily Mail says!

Come on in for a gossip, cake, parenting tips and the nonstop drivel interesting chat.

Newbies welcome :-)

JW that's a great idea. Especially as my mum is taking me to see the Vagina Monologues tomorrow night. Will leave DH, Pops and Adam with a stinky shirt!!

Welcome estheronions! Like JW I had very little morning sickness and now have a very healthy 11 day...wait...12 day old son . I did have some horrible days, but mostly I had exhaustion. Hope everything goes well for you.

iris I used to date a man who was (and still is ) 26 years older than me. I got asked once if he was my father. I think all people need to just not ask that question if they aren't sure of age differences and relationships! Of course, with Ron and I, we would laugh at the looks we would get when we would walk holding hands or kiss in public!!

erm I hope the conjugal occasion sets something off!! Perhaps neddie could give you some pointers? ::flees::

iris sorry, days, trace iris has days until she has a newborn.

Off to rearrange the nursery today. In theory the changing table next to the window was lovely. In practice? Too much sun (who knew it would be too much sun in this country?) and cold air (should have thought of that) on my boy when he lying there naked!!

Hello all you new people! Welcome!
I'm 40 and expecting my second baby in 5 weeks time - eek!

Nice new thread jw jj - in absolute at your cheeky feckers neighbours!!! I can't believe they live so close and were stealing your stuff to actually build something in their garden!! FFS how blatant can you get?? I don't know what I'd be doing apart from fuming up and down the house. Good job you so much good nursery news to take your mind off it! How's the garden going by the way? And new photos?

I went to an Archery evening with work last night - good fun but I have some cracking bruises on my arm where the strings zapped me.

Hope you enjoy the Vagina Monologues Tee - I thought they were very funny - but my friend and her husband walked out at half time (oops). Thought it was a bit strange him coming in the first place! Oh and NO MOVING THE FURNITURE BY YOURSELF!!!! You're supposed to be taking it easy after your C-S!

bonzo don't worry, DH is moving furniture! And sorry I missed you on the newborn list!

I just found out that the friend who I dated who was 26 years older than me died last year. I am very sad to hear this.

mornin' all

Back at work. \sigh

Mr D discovered this weekend that he can pull himself upright in his rocker chair. From there it was a very short leap to discovering he could reach things on the floor by leaning forward. Very far forward. Cue an unseemly kerfuffle and him ending up splat on the floor with the chair on top of him this morning.

When we drpped him at nursery he went rigid and clung on to OH. Kept clutchig at his t short with a " don't leave me" face on and then he burst itno tears when the assistant took him.

Still, enough about us!!

JJ I cannot believe your neighbours - what a cheek to nick the stuff and take it down the road to build a shed! At least they brought it back, I s'pose What kind of person sees wood in their neighbour's garden and thinks "that'll do me"??

tee good for you getting out and about already. I take it you are recovering well from the C/S? (am interested as if I have another I will deffo be wanting a C/S)

welcome to all the new ladies! I didn't have any m/s either and worried about it a lot. I finally managed to develop it at 35 weeks! Had a miscarriage also at 39 and did exactly what JW did and got an early private scan. Although they thought it was ectopic and there was a lot of fuss and worry until it turned out not to be.

mrsb I am recovering amazingly well. It is the mixed blessing of Adam being in SCBU for just over a week, I got a lot of rest before he came home. Now that he's home I'm feeling less wonderful, but still not too bad.

Hi ladies,Tee -its your 1st cs,take it easy,get him indoord to do as much as poss,i`ve had 3 cs and always had dh at home for 1st 2 wks and then in-laws for next 2 wks. The scar etc will get so much better really quickly if you dont do to much,i had the luxury of staying in bed for virtually the 1st 4 wks bfing.I had lost 4 pts of blood during 3 hr c/s though .Looked like the bride of frankenstein for a while.

Hello all - first chance to sit down.

Welcome tracedw, estheronions and camgems lovely to have you all here. esther I didn't really have morning sickness with either of mine - oh I do hope everything goes well. Are you under close supervision? Like jw I had an early scan at the epu and that did put my mind at rest for the first 12 weeks. Keep us posted.

bonzo eeek! I'd forgotton you were SO close too!!!! Hahahahahahahah I've just thought - I reckon you and iris will probably drop before ermintrude Is this where we discover erm is actually an elephant and has another year to go yet

tee good to hear DH is doing the furniture moving and not you!

jw believe it or not we didn't call the police. Number 11 are notorious - really no point. It's scary talking to them - it's like they've all had a lobotomy. You can't believe that the human brain can stop learning to that extent. DP has a theory that they may think in pictures rather than words! Anyway - he emphasised that career criminals (which he assumed they wanted to be and they didn't argue!) didn't sh*t it their backyard!

Have a vicious period come on - feel naff - so I'm going to bow out. Sorry I meant to read back over the posts but I've forgotten all that I was going to write x

blooming heck it is a bit warm here, just beEn to Tescos what joy, I'm not sure what I bought but it cost £90 ekkkk .

O is asleep hurrah, he sweetly woke me up this morning by tugging my hair at 5am . He did look very cute though

Tee I hope DH has rearranged the furniture to your satisfaction.

Right I am going to be dead organised and make tea before B gets home form school,.................. or maybe another cup of coffee is needed.

hi all, welcome tracedw, estheronions and camgems i am 43 and have a LO who is 5 months old. DS1 is 5 yrs old

this thread moves fast and i can never keep up!

tee how are you? how is your scar healing? i use bio-oil and i reckon it is healing better than my first section. ah, the tiredness of the early weeks..i agree with jw i think Adam is looking for your smell. so give your DH one of your old shirts.

it is such a lovely warm day today love it love it love it!

went to boots and got a day cream, night cream, serum, toner, cleanser, foundation. i need to start making myself feel good!

mrsb we removed K's bouncy chair about 3 weeks ago as she could pull herself forward and could see it had Accident Waiting To Happen written all over it. Now she can get out of her ring, no idea what to put her down on to sit and play. She has the odd wobble and falls sideways and we have wooden flooring. Any ideas ladies?

Warm weather given way to heavy black clouds full of rain. Still muggy though so anticipating thunder.

Had a fab afternoon in Daresbury. Had lunch at the little village pub and a mooch around the famous church. Brilliant sunshine and we sat in the garden. Wouldn't think to look at the weather now Off out for tea later as the Yank moves on to Poland tomorrow.

K's had the squits today so she's done nowt but whine. No idea

Welcome everyone new! I'm 41 and expecting number 4 in 7.5 weeks (and counting, in this weather).

Whoops! Forgot duchesse in the newborn list as well! My bad.

JW what do you mean by 'ring'? Is it one of those saucer things with all the toys on it? Because that held my niece in one place for years!!

Well, Adam has puked on me again. I am wondering when it is Daddy's turn...

With 1st boy,10 yrs, i remember putting a large thick quilt on the floor and a few cushions to hem him in,worked ok,no trips to casualty.
Had a ring for ds2,5 yrs old,worked well and had a clear out when i was 45,thinking that women of my age dont get pregnant!
Well,guess what,preg 6 months later. E-bay great this time,i will not be passing anything down to the 4th

tee speaking of puke, LO has always settled nicely after his 6pm feed. 3 days ago, he just would not settle after his 6pm feed. cried and cried and of course, puked all over himself and his hammock.

when he is in this state, he has got his eyes shut and crying away. when i go to comfort him, it is like he does not even know i am there.

he is normally not a cryie baby (touch wood!) so we are not used to it. i feel sorry for DS1 cos his bedtime routine with me has been rather disturbed these few days.

i hope it is just a phase. cuts my heart when he cries.

tee speaking of puke, LO has always settled nicely after his 6pm feed. 3 days ago, he just would not settle after his 6pm feed. cried and cried and of course, puked all over himself and his hammock.

when he is in this state, he has got his eyes shut and crying away. when i go to comfort him, it is like he does not even know i am there.

he is normally not a cryie baby (touch wood!) so we are not used to it. i feel sorry for DS1 cos his bedtime routine with me has been rather disturbed these few days.

i hope it is just a phase. cuts my heart when he cries.

JW have you thought of a cycle helmet? . Seriously, I think that's the only surefire way of stopping them banging their heads - or rather of absorbing some of the shock - because try as you might with cushions etc. they'll get out of any spot you put them in.

JJ you're right, I'm a cow elephant. . You can go off people, you know. Actually, I'm feeling quite chilled and que sera sera about it today; the weather helps. And the tennis .

Your DH's career criminal theory is spot on. When my folks took me to my first student house in Toxteth the next-door neighbour brought round a pint of milk and, seeing the look on my ma's face, said cheerily, 'Don't worry queen, we have no trouble here; this is where the villains come from.' . And she was right.

Tee my DD puked after every feed till she was over 6 months. Nearly every photo of her features a bib, which she wore months before weaning started, and when we visited friends who knew her well, they would discreetly pop a muslin under her to protect their carpets.

evenin' all

D has had three accidents since yesterday - he fell over backwards onto the wooden floor in front of me, then he flipped the chair over and today at nursery another sprog walloped him over the head with a rattle leaving him with a bruise .

Our bouncy chair is out of commission now so we are left with the baby Einstein centre and a playmat with the overhanging bits removed. I think tracedw's quilt is probably the best idea.

ermintrude glad you're feeling chilled -no rush 'til Thursday

heron sorry to hear about your LO and is night time woes - how long does he cry for?

I took a massive job on today and now I am kicking my own arse!! why do I always do it to myself? I'd get paid the same if I was bone idle..

Evening all. I'm pooped - the hot weather combined with a period from hell....PAH!

jw Verity still flops back...and occasionally it's on a hard floor and boy does she scream I bought a big, thick rug and she's only just learned to bum-shuffle off it. I just chase her round with a couple of cushions...or a rolled up blanket sort of twisted round her and hope for the best!

Tee ditto ermintrude Verity puked up after virtually every meal - I mean it was like possetting - and some more! Again, in virtually every pic (see my profile! and FB pic!) she's wearing a bib!

trace LOL@ having a clearout once you reached 45. I have taken note

duchesse bloomin 'eck - you're close too. Ooooo, I can't knit and bake celebratory cakes quick enough!!

hedgepig you sounded just like me when I last came back from Tescos. I was shouting "HOW MUCH? And that's with money-off coupons!"

Went to docs this morning to have a swab to see what this mouth rash thing is...got to wait till Thurs for one result and next week for the other....grrr...Now I'm googling all sorts of horrors

hedgepig is it your birthday tomorrow???! Should I bake a cake? Let me know your preference x

Caught up at last! Congratulations Tee! Splendid news on the playgroup front for jj and Iris too, that all sounds excellent. Camgems - I have dd (almost 12), ds (8) and I will be 43 when dc3 arrives in late November.

Hi all, I am quite new to MN; am am 42 & have a DS 3. Both me & DH would like another when ds starts school next year, If we are blessed, but how do i deal with all the negative comments which I know I will definately recieve from my work colleagues who are so narrow minded. They all already make comments about me having my first at age 38. My family are supportive, but how do I respond to these people who I have to face every day? what responses do you give to negative comments about being an older mum?

Thanks for suggestions on rug/quilt. I'm going to Ikea later this week so will have a look what they have. The Galt ring is inflatable tee but she scales the sides of it and falls on the hard wooden floor.

ermintrude you can buy those helmets for toddlers like they had on the Apprentice. Not sure about them yet....will have to consider...

mrsb poor D He's really had it going on of late. Hope he whacked the other child back.

Dinner with the Yank went well and I've said my goodbyes to him. He's a lovely person and I'll be sorry to see him go. Both DH and myself agree he's been a lovely guest. DH is taking them to the airport tomorrow as me and K have a date........with softplay! Whoo hoo. Our first girly day out to play Really looking forward to it. Bit worried she's not had her MMR yet but fingers crossed she'll be ok. She's having it next Wednesday.

Think it's time for bed. Happy b'day for tomorrow hedgepig

Hope your period gets better JJ tee good luck for some sleep tonight!

Mpearl welcome

I think we've all had to deal with negative comments at some point from finding out we were pregnant and over 40 on this thread. It's really no one elses business but yours and your family's. I always found that telling people my baby was very planned and very much wanted, helped.

I've also developed a thick skin over the years and really couldn't give a flying fig what other people think about me having a baby a) over 40 and b) with a 17 year age gap

MPearl Oh my God - why do these people think they have any right to comment on when you choose to have kids?

I am 41 with a 9 month old and have never ever had a single negative comment about being an older mum (not even from my own mother which is the biggest surprise ) I don't recall any of the other ladies on here ever saying they'd had any either. Certainly not from work colleagues. It's bloody outrageous.

If anyone did say anything to me I would probably deadpan back something really daft along the lines of "oh I have no idea how it happened again"

or "I'm doing it because I want to be like all those celebrities who have babies in their forties"

and see what they think to that...