40+ mums-to-be and those who've 'popped' - come say hi, pull up a chair and have some cake!

[jeanjeannie]

Hello everyone - yet another thread. I'm expecting a call anyday soon from ITV - as I imagine we'll be prime candidates for taking over the Loose Women slot when they need a break

So, for anyone interested in joining in with us - just jump in and say Hi - we don't bite - unless you're disguised as a chocolate sponge cake

Ladies..................Take it away

or to go on maternity leave (i.e take up permanent residence on the sofa, laptop on knee)

wish I could take up permanet residence on a sofa am finding being back at work very very hard. Can't find my civil servant hat - wearing my tired mummy hat all day

Tee your poor knee, lock those shoes in the deepest darkest part of your wardrobe.

I hang my head in shame B drinks mostly apple juice, it was getting silly with him not drinking anything when water was the only offer so I crumbled . My mom used to have a whole goodie draw when I was young, which probably explains the state of my teeth or could it be the hot ribena my Dad would bring me in the morning when he woke me up .

Os teeth are really bugging him today so he wants to be carried all the time, ouch my back.

JJ poor Iris, hopefully they will get to the bottom of it soon, these LOs can be so tricky @ times.

woopps already said that

jj apols if this is a really daft idea but have you heard about the new salt-based inhalers that are available now? Supposed to be fabulous for all sorts of chest complaints and totally non-chemical. Have heard very good things about them. This may be daft as Iris might be too young to use an inhaler but if not maybe worth looking into?

its here if you want to look it up

where the heck is everyone?

I'm here!!! Been busy this evening. Had to take a few things back to TK Maxx for DD#1 and while I was there I was distracted by more Jelly Cat teddies She's got too many already and now joined by 2 more Bargains though!

So after bathtime, bed etc etc just had time to first sit down of the day. Ahhhhhhhhhhh.

Took DSS to GP's this morning and he's referred him to audiologist. His ears are clear but he says 'what?' after everything you say to him. He even said 'what' to the GP when he asked him if he could hear what he was saying. So, another appointment for the calendar. I think it's habit myself or tied to the Asperger's.

Right ladies. Need advice. My other children all had the MMR in one go. I know the evidence from a few years back has been discredited but I'm thinking I don't want to take any chances with K. Given DH already has one child on the autistic spectrum, I'm thinking of having the MMR given seperately. I'm not sure but I doubt that the GP will do it and I may have to pay. Is this correct??? How do I go about sorting it out?

I'm here too!! Although I am off to bed very very soon.

I think I would start by asking GP JW. They might surprise you.

Can't help with how to go about it jw except to say that the GP won't do it and you would need to go to a private clinic. there'll be a thread on here somewhere I bet where they can tell you!

I understand why you would be reticent to take even a nominal risk with K that you might not think twice about with a full term baby - only thing is though jw if there was a risk with the MMR (which there isn't but leaving that aside) there is no evidence to suggest that there would be any less of a risk with doing it separately.

The "whatting" does sound like a habitual thing.

Evening all. Girls didn't go to bed late - I'm eating crisps instead of dinner and feel shattered. Feeling sorry for myself? Moi? ....no, no, you mistake me for another moaning red-head

mrsB mucho thanks for the link - I'll check it out. I was thinking of something along the steam lines as she's so much clearer after a bath...all that heat.

jw it's a hard one. I had Iris done with the MMR BUT I think if she'd been as prem as K then no - I'd go for the individual - and possibly stagger them out a bit after one year old. I'd go for the measles first as this does seem to be rearing its ugly head. I do believe you have to pay for them and while i've heard some GPs are reluctant to tell you where to go to get them separately I reckon being up-front and asking them wouldn't do any harm. SCBU may have some names of practitioners who do it.

Feel snotty - head coldy - joy of joys - bed for me soon

I've been waiting impatiently for bedtime since I got in from work...

hedgepig at hot ribena on waking! Although I suppose if you did your teeth straight afterwards it's better than having it at breakfast and not cleaning. Even DC who are used to juice can be weaned off it - my sis had to do it with her 2 yr old after spending some time with granny while her baby sis was ill in hospital. Granny gave the babe whatever she wanted which was mostly not v watered-down apple or orange juice. When they were back home my sis just wouldn't give her anything except water - she sulked and screamed, she got thirsty, she drank water, she now drinks water all the time at home.

But someone mentioned that even milk has got sugars in it which can harm teeth - I have a friend who b/fed her DS on demand until he was 3 including at night-time, and he had to have 3 fillings at 4 . It does suggest that working at helping them sleep through has more benefits than just your own sanity. Mind you, she didn't forcibly clean his teeth - if he protested loudly she'd just let him off it whereas I sometimes had to hold my DD by the neck to keep her still while I brushed; no way was she going to bed without it.

JW Completely understand why you are worried abut MMR, especially because of your DSS, but hope the GP can reassure you about it - 3 injections instead of 1 sounds pretty traumatic.

JJ sorry to hear she's not improved and hope they find the source very soon, poor little poppet.

On the way back from DD's piano lesson DS started feeling sick - thank goodness I keep a bag in the car for myself to puke in! He half-filled it in one go so looks like I'll have company at home tomorrow. The car smelled so bad DD nearly joined him.

On which fragrant note I bid y'all goodnight

Jeez. We're so rock n roll on here. It's not even 10pm and we're all talking about wishing for our beds!

I'm thinking the same of you JJ to stagger them. I certainly think that she needs them for sure. I can't not have her done as the thought of having measles, mumps or german measles frightens the life outta me (DD#1 has ALL of them. No MMR 23 years ago....nightmare)

I'll ask HV when she finally turns up. I'm expecting a lecture but I'm not arsed. As you said mrsb there's bound to be someone on MN who has had them done seperately.

I think that DSS says 'what' as a habit. It's bloody annoying. Actually his behaviour of late has got me down. It's hard enough being a step parent but having a step child with special needs just makes it a bit harder I'm just worried he's in a rut of doing bugger all, not doing anything apart from the Xbox. That would make me no better than his horrid mother, who parks him in front of the tv on Friday night until Sunday afternoon when he comes home. I didn't do it with mine so I don't want him to do it either but I feel like maybe he's too set in his ways, especially with the constraints of Asperger's on top (routine, routine and more obsessive routine).

Think I'll go off to bed too and rest my worrywort head

tee hope you're snoring by now and long may it last!

ermintrude it was me that mentioned the milk. I had a heated discussion with DH many moons ago about it as he thought that all things natural couldn't possibly be bad for your teeth (it actually started with fruit juices which I said can be as bad as sweets). Anyway, he wasn't having any of it until the dentist told him Duh. Milk is full of natural sugars and given through a teat is the right way to getting tooth decay. Awww @ holding your DC's neck in a head lock! Something I'd prolly do.

I am worried about K and especially the autism link......I need to research this a bit more. That doesn't include GOOGLE - the world's scariest search engine.

One question I have re piano lessons. When the piano tuner came to do ours he asked if DSS was under 6 as apparently under 6's can acquire out of tune notes as their ears are very sensitive. He told us not to use the piano if this was the case and any of the notes had gone out of tune. My question is do you know what the best age is to start lessons? I'm obviously thinking of K here. DSS won't play it as it doesn't have a joy stick and no high resolution screen with action packed war scenes In his words; BORING!

jw you probably won't get a lecture but apparently nhs staff are told not to get into discussion about separate jabs with parents - if you have a good relationship with your hv she might be a bit more forthcoming though.

I think if the measles vac caused autism it would do it whether or not the jabs were combined. But I will shurrup now.

Morning all!

I was indeed snoring by then JW! And although I woke up earlier than I wanted to, at least it was 7.5 hours after I fell asleep, more or less!

I agree with mrsb about MMR vs separate. And now I'll shut up about the issue also.

ermintrude I hope everyone feels better soon! Feels like we've all been through the wars lately with all this illness.

Today I am going to enjoy my day off by going shoe shopping. Something flat that slips on that looks good with jeans and work trousers. Maybe two pairs are in order...

Good morning Tee and everyone. I am new here - may I join in? I am 42 and 6 wks pg with number three (dd 11 and ds 8). I have tried a couple of experimental posts on mn to see how it works but don't really have the hang of it. Hello anyway!

Hello stormfly and welcome!

Somewhere on the thread is a list of who we all are and where we are in pregnancy/motherhood! Not all of us are currently pregnant, some have already popped, but love this thread so much we stick around!

I myself am 40 and 27 weeks pregnant with my first!

Tee - thanks for the lovely welcome. I will go and look for that list you mention. Well done on the 7.5 hours sleep too!

tee I think it might be on one of the old threads? It's early though and I could be mistaken. Otherwise, is it near to the beginning of this thread?

There's been so many threads I can't keep track

mrsb I totally agree that if it did cause autism then I'd still be opening myself/herself up to the risk of it by having it. I dunno. It's just I feel after the hairy scary birth episode I can't put anything in place that may jeopardise K's well being.

It's totally irrational and illogical and it's probably just as effective as knocking on wood I guess

I don't know about that JW. I mean, you have to work with the information you've been given even if, logically, as an intelligent woman, you know it is false. And you need to do what makes you feel comfortable. She is your precious precious miracle baby and I can totally understand your being extra careful with her.

And yeah, I think that list might be on our previous thread...maybe I'll have a search for it later, after the great shoe shopping expedition!

Have fun tee. Get a pair that don't make you fall over

hiya stormfly and welcome! Enjoy it here - I'm not sure I've seen the list recently, so not sure if it's on this thread.

I'm 43 and 21wks pregnant with #4.

Mum41 Daughters 18 and 15 and 5 and twin boys born July 2008 Fraser and Regan

johnworf 42 - (Katherine) Born 28 May 08 (16 weeks early, was due September 14th 2008) 4th baby. Others are 23,20,17

jeanjeannie 43 - (Verity) Born 30 May 08. Iris is 2.

mrsb (Darragh) Born September 08. has an older DS too, can't remember how old though.

hedgepig 42 (Oliver) Born October 08. Also has Ben, 5.

Tee 40 due June 09. First baby.

Ermintrude13 due June. Also DD 10 and DS

Duchesse 41- boy of 15, girl of 13, girl of 11, due number 4 in August.

FloriaTosca 44;(Alexander) born 26 Sept 07

Neddie 41. Girl 16, girl 6 1/2, twins due Sept 09

ladymac due April, 5th baby. Elizabeth born April 07, Grace is 12, DD1 24 and DS 20

Tabitha8, 43. Little Tab due June. First ever baby.

kaz1967 (Kezzie) Born July 2008.

bonzoDoodah 41 DD1 18months, baby due in July