40 + yummy mummies with baby tummies and those who've 'popped' - come hither!

[jeanjeannie]

Come join our merry (talkative) band of ladies who lunch - feel sick - are getting fatter - sleep deprived or run off their feet with babies! Some of us suffer all of the above - while trying to retain an air of calm and mystery

All we ask is you play nicely, eat cake and indulge in the occasional gossip and moan about our ills....or anything else that we can think of.

We're like grumpy old women....only not so grumpy...

Tottenham or Hackney jj?

The cheeks are very red - like she's put her own blusher on - but no fever. She's just fractious at the moment and doesn't know what she wants. Keeps wrestling herself to the ground with added extra grunting noises

A Thai lunch sounds lovely to me. Oh, and a walk. That's sounds lovely too. In fact anything sounds lovely to me right now. I think I've just lost the plot. Sat here in pj's, wet hair, 2 spots on the end of my nose, eczema on my elbow and slathered in E45 on hands and other bits that stick out from night shirt. Yep, I'm one sexy babe

Prolly turn in early tonight as I think K may wake later for another feed.

Night all.

"wrestling herself to the ground" sorry to laugh jw but v funny image.

Mr D seems to have developed a new cold also, from nowhere. Most snottery.

Hahahahahah ladymac how did you narrow it down sooo quickly? It's actually Edmonton...aka sort of Tottenham But hey - it's just a couple of roads away from the new(ish) huge IKEA - may have to pop in, just to keep up with the fast-moving world of modern interiors and nowt to do with the meatballs you understand

jw you sound gorgeous...may I join you? I'm sporting bloodshot eyes (always happens when heating is on all day) eczema behind my knees, greasy hair, hairy legs and wearing DP's zip up jacket and that piece of Chav haute couture....leggings

BTW that description of K could exactly match Verity - blusher cheeks and tetchy.

Evening ladies.

Well, we told the children (15, 13, 11) about their little brother/sister this evening.

The only reaction was from the 11 yr old, who said "Oh cool, you mean I don't get to be youngest any more?", followed up by "will it be born on my birthday?" (her b/day is 27th July, this one is due in August).

From the other two came there nothing but stony silence, so no idea what they're thinking.

I showed them the ultrasound picture, but only the younger one looked at it- the other two are steadfastly ignoring it even though it's lying on the coffee table... I think they are just going to take a little longer to take it on board. Or something.

Duchesse mine were a little past the age of mid teens that yours are but their brains will still be whirring away, don't worry. Along the lines of:

a)Oh god! Screaming child in the house

b) Oh god! Screaming child in the house that will thereby divert attention away from me. What will happen when I need them as a taxi/personal bank?

c)Oh god! They won't have enough money to buy me all the things I 'need'.

d) Oh god! What will my friends think?

e) Oh god! My mum and dad still have sex! GROSSSSSSSSSSS!

Teenagers are very selfish creatures so I really wouldn't take it to heart Duchesse Once he/she is born they'll secretly love it to pieces and talk about it non stop to their friends (but you won't know this as that would blow the street cred).

My daughter who is 2 weeks away from being 23 loves her unashamedly. My youngest son who is 17 will happily bounce her on his knee for 5 minutes then want out but says all his friends who are girls ask him about her and he says K is a chick magnet (?). The older son who is 20 coming up to 21 in March never mentions her but will sit and chat with her on the fleeting occasions he's here (usually wanting something from me) but never asks how she is on the phone. I don't take any of this to heart though as I know deep down they love her.

Oh btw, DSS who is 9 would care for her 24 hours a day if we let him. The younger ones don't have the inhibitions and traumas of the teenager. Enjoy the relationship of your youngest and soon to be new youngest.

Sermon over.

K woke at 6am, glugged a full bottle and then gave me some back onto the carpet. Think it's the catarah on her tummy that's doing it. Anyway, she slept ok and I think last night she was slightly improving.

Wind here is bitterly cold - from Siberia I'm told. It'll be a quick trip to Clarks and home. Have to do it today as snow is on it's way later today.

Btw JJ you sound as 'hot' as I do

Morning all.

Poor K. Never fun to throw up. Glad she is improving, though!

duchesse I don't have any teenage children, but I can tell you the reaction of my teenage nieces and nephews when they found out I was pregnant. It was basically OMG OLD PEOPLE HAVE SEX! Along with AWWWWWWWW NEW BABY COUSIN!!

So I think JW is right.

... just peeking head round the corner to see if you've stopped pelting fruit for mentioning BLW!
I'm not a soapbox promoter or anything. I just read up on it a lot as DD did it herself and then wouldn't eat any of the packet mush. So I HAD to do something. I don't think it's a set regieme or anything ... just a way of looking at things differently from the packet industries' marketing of baby mush. (We didn't evolve with food processors and packets etc).

Anyway ... have persuaded hubby that we really NEED to have breakfast at Weatherspoons ... so I'm just going to find my baggiest trousers! mmmmmmmmm

Oooh Bonzo, breakfast out, there's sophistication. Can't remember the last time .

Duchesse I think JW's list of what teenage siblings are likely to think is spot on, disappointing though it may seem. There will be 11 yrs between my oldest and this new one, and I suspect that if we'd waited another year or two her response - which was extremely positive - would have been along those mardy, grumpy, self-centred lines. Not looking forward to the teenage years...

My mum had my youngest sister when my brother was 16, I was 14 and other sisters were 12, 9 and 5. So it was a sort of continuum and not that much of a shock - I just thought - here we go again! But your older ones will come round to the idea and love the new one when it arrives, for sure. And you have ready-made babysitters

I was 17 when my mum had my younger brother - I was so self absorbed that I didn't even notice she was pregnant (she hid it from all of us for some unknown reason) until they announced she was off to hospital for a caesarian!

Poor Mr D has another cold -no idea where he got it but its his second in two weeks. He's in good form though and absolutely loves the little play gym we got at Asda for £15. The fabric is nice and velvety, he loves the toys and its nice and small and doesn't take up too much room.

Hope K is bearing up jw

Hi all,

Thanks for nice message re K. She's a bit brighter today thanks. She's taking lots of milk so in my book that's always an indicator they're not too bad.

Mission to Clarks successful and even managed to get a nice pair of trainers too. It's with his feet having such a high instep - plus he's flat footed and has to wear orthopaedic insoles from the hospital. Had a good look at the little first shoes Oh they are sooooo cute! Can't wait until K is walking.

mrsb hope that Darragh is doing ok too. Poor little things aren't they? Can't even blow their noses so you can hear it all rattling around their throats At the least his new toy is proving to be a successful distraction.

I was 14 when my mum had my sisters. Twin girls. They're 27 now. Nightmare. Double nightmare. I hated having them around and always got lumbered with them when I was out on dates So much so that people in the area I lived thought they were mine. Still, came in handy when I had my own as I knew straight away what to do

bonzo no need to apologise re BLW. All suggestions welcome here - we're not facists like some threads are Far too old and have serious cases of 'can't be arsed-ness' about us.

Ok, snow is upon us here. Gritters have been out and I think around this evening the weatherman said it'll get bad. No intentions of moving out of the house in the next week. The hospitals can wait

Have DS#2 here today and DD#1 + B/f later on so have a busy afternoon. DS#2 is fabulous with DSS and DSS loves him coming around

Laters potatoes.

good grief it is jolly cold her brrrrrrrr My parents have been here for the weekend to dote in their grandchildren and have just gone home. We had a lovely pub roast for lunch so technically I do not need to eat for another week but I'm peckish already.

I'm glad K is feeling a bit better and boo MrD is not. Young O is also snuffly and/or teething his poor hands are being chewed rather a lot.

It's interesting several of us have big gaps between us and out siblings, I am 14 yrs older than youngest brother. Duchess when my parents told my brother and i mom was expecting my brother (the 12) said he would rather have a dog! so maybe silence would have been better

it makes sense in a way of course us being geriatric mothers and having mothers who gave birth to siblings late on - given that the onset of menopause is to a certain extent hereditary. My mum had a total hysterectomy when she had my brother at 39 (her fourth c/s) but her identical twin sister didn't start the menopause until 54.

err I think I meant a complete hysterectomy.

is a hysterectomy the same as a sense of humor bypass???
As well as genetically being more likely to get pregnant later I think we probably don't see having babaies older as such a big deal.

We are the house of snot as Ben is coming down with the cold as well.

oh dear hedgepig this cold business seems to be running right through this thread and the LO's. Guess it's to be expected as the weather (and the wind) is so very bitter today.

DS#2 has gone home now and we had a nice afternoon. I postponed DD#1 and we had pizza which was easy rather than a roast. With K being a bit off the boil I've said we'll do it next weekend instead.

No idea when my mother had her hot flushes. Will ask her. I'm thinking it'll be next on my list of things to do. I def won't be having any more children. You still up for another one mrsb? And hedgepig can you squeeze another out before your hot flushes? (tee hee).

Hope all you ladies with bumps are ok in the cold. Mind you when some of us on here were pregnant it was during the summer and boy, was that not good. Although I missed out on most of the hot weather as K did a bunk.

The link between our mothers' fertility and our own is interesting. My ma had her 1st child at 23 and her 6th at 39 but at 43 she miscarried a 7th pregnancy which resulted in prolapse after which she had a hysterectomy and oopherectomy. Her mother had a hysterectomy in her 30s, and the generations before that were all crazy Welsh woman who wouldn't have talked about The Change to anyone. So I don't know when to expect natural menopause at all .

But I definitely want this to be my last DC so have been gently introducing the idea to DH of his taking a little visit to the vet but he doesn't seem keen...

I took Little Tab out for a walk in the snow today. She loved it. Mind you, I could hardly have left her behind, could I?
If I didn't have to go to work tomorrow, I'd make a snowman for her.

I am handling the cold by not going out today!

I have also hit 20 weeks and insulin resistance all on schedule. Going from high to low in about an hour. Its so lovely being a diabetic mummy!

Hope all the snotty noses get better soon!

ermintrude I remember my grandfather telling me his mother was 47 when she had him and all of his brothers had gone off to fight in WW1. She thought she'd 'finished with having babies' and had no idea she was pregnant - don't think they had Clearblue digital in those days. Apparently very common having a late baby when you thought you were passed all that nonsense!

My ex H had a vasectomy. I talked him into having it awake. So he did. Oh I did take some joy out of him walking around with cantaloupe melons between his legs. I don't think DH will have one although he's mentioned it in passing. Not because we're secretly hoping for another but just because I think our current form of contraception works....i.e. knackered-ness

tee can't say I share your enthusiasm being on insulin when pregnant - or ever! Have they explained what will happen in labour with the insulin drips and blood sugars for LO?

That was very much sarcasm, JW!!

And no, it hasn't been discussed yet, JW. I am seeing OB on Tuesday and its one of the things I was planning on asking.

I was very glad to have been able to avoid needing insulin when pg as the GD came on late. I'm sure I wouldn't be so lucky again (and yes, jw I would like another in theory, although I hate being pregnant, we can't afford nursery fees for a second, our house is way too small, I am four or five stone overweight, yadda yadda) Oh and I also have that irrational fear that I have been unaccountably lucky to have one perfectly healthy, beautiful, happy baby and its just greedy to want another.

We will have to see next year .

Actually I wasn't being sarcastic tee.

Make sure you take a pencil and paper. When I was in labour the 2 MW's who were with me had to read the manual on how to do the drip. Mind you, mine was a bit unexpected but still, it didn't fill me with much confidence.

We're back And I didn't have to get out the gun once! It was so lovely to see my friend and his mum and dad - Iris adored them both. Boy it snowed on the way back tonight. Reckon it's gonna be snowman on the patio tommorow!

Bonzo HELLO!! Oh lordy I thought my BLW rant had made you think I was a loon and run away * waves white flag and then claps as Bonzo returns! Hope your Wetherspoons brekkie hit the spot!

jw good to hear K is brighter today Am laughing at your run-through of the teenage mind and how it works. duchese I can just imagine the stoney 'am I bovered?' kind of silence!

tabitha pleased you and bump enjoyed the snowy walk - be even more fun with a pram I'm not sure they do ski-style attachments for a buggy - yet!

ermintrude My DP was all for his visit to the vets - couldn't get that snip done fast enough - but now he's strangly gone off the idea My mum had her menopause around 56 - quite late I think. And I've been looking into my dad's family tree as he had a few mysteries to solve and i've been amazed at how many 40 something births I've unearthed!

Righty ho - early bedtime me thinks - it's cold and I'm tempted to take up a hot choccy , magazine and snuggle the cat