40+ Yummy (or not-so-yummy) Mummies, Come and Eat Cake

[ladymac]

Have taken the plunge, hope this is acceptable to everybody.

and throwing yourself on the floor and screaming and crying like it's the end of the world may work (according to DD -17months)

Or paraphrase the Simpsons:

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Whahahahahahahahah Girls, girls am PMSL@at the Wii mithering techniques you've so kindly offered. I thank you all

I think I'll go in order ...start with the 'purleeeeeease' - then move onto hurling self on floor ala Iris! Then - the piece de resistance...go for the Simpsons style of mental attrition

hii girls posted a conv about whats classed as term cant seem to get any reply anyone know whats classed as term? i know pregnancy can last anywhere between 37-42 weeks bu if your baby was born at 36 weeks woild it be classed as a month premature or a week premature?? xx

I don't think they really look at it from that end if you see what I mean mum2b09 they will just say its a 36 week pre-term baby won't they? Term is anything from 37 to 42 weeks - 40 is an average. They will count it in terms of how far along the gestation is rather than how close to the end the birth was.

ohh rite was just abit confused really how come they class a 37 week baby as term? would it still be a tiny baby or average to baby born at 40 weeks?

mum2b09 37-40wks is stated as 'Term' i think because as mrsB says - it's a rough guideline as to when the average baby arrives after gestation. So - it can allow for wrong dates AND an early arrival!! But they don't go into panic and class it as early at 37 wks because the last few weeks is basically laying down fat and getting bigger.

Before the rough 37 wk mark there are still a few important things left to develop which are best down inside the womb. When I had DD1 she was born approx 7 weeks early and she'd not got a suck reflex plus she had barely any body fat (a bum like a little old lady!) which meant we needed Special Care to get her through it.

36 weeks would be classed as Prem BUT I doubt if they would go into a frenzy of panic - it's a sliding scale and the earlier (often by days) the more the dangers become apparent.
HTH

thanx :d made it alot clearer xxxxxx

no it wouldn't be tiny like the ones you see all wired up in incubators - it would weigh a bit less than a 40 week baby but not massively so. Obviously 40 week babies can weigh anything from 5 to 10lbs anyway so it would still probably be in that range.

well I've just been booked in for a CS when I am 37 weeks (and 2 days) but the consultant was happy to do it from 37 weeks. DD aged 2 was a planned CS at 36 + 6 and she was 3.3k which I think was around 7 1/2lbs and she was absolutely fine (although she had scrawny little legs then but is lovely and plump now) She did not have to go into special care and left hospital with me as soon as I was able to leave after the CS

Morning all. FOG!! FOG!! Can't even see the car

mumsoverseas how exciting - so what date will you be having your little one?

It's quiet on here....HELLO!!, HELLO!!

So, what does everyone think about the lowest interest rate ever ? I doubt if our mortgage company will go any lower - they're positively limboing as it is! Just a little fiscal question for this fogging Friday morning.

Righty ho - off to nursery with Iris - and this afternoon we've actually been invited to a friend's house for a play date...OOooer - that makes a change!

Morning

JJ we have been fixed at 4.5 for the last three years, so I'm trying to ignore the rate changes. Actually for the peace of mind in knowing that our payment won't change it has been well worth it.

And now they are so low there is only one way to go...............

we are paying 5.5 on the svr - one of the highest rates - our bank isn't passing the cuts on at all

I am soooooooooo tired... D wouldn't go down 'til gone 2 last night and was awake again at 3am for a minuscule feed then again at about six am for another minuscule one. Eye bleedingly tired, I am.

oh dear Mrsb any chance of some sut eyye today?

oh crikey mrsb. What a naughty boy D has been. Can't you catch a sneaky zzzzz when he's catching up on his? Must have been something in the air last night or praps it was national baby up all night awards as K woke at 11.30pm and then again at 5.30am which she's not done for ages. Not sure what's going on at the mo with her. Dribbling, fist in mouth and now she's pulled her ear so badly it's bled (again) inside. Bum is a bit red as well and she's pooing all over the place.

Off for lunch today with DD#1 and a little shop for some long sleeved vests for K. Mebbe something in M&S might take my fancy too although trying not to buy any more clothes in the hope they won't fit me in a couple of months!

Play date sounds fun JJ. Well, for Iris anyway No fog here. Drizzle and faint wind that I saw on weather forecast is about to get stronger over the weekend.

jeanjeannie, little one is coming on 8th February. can't wait now its under a month, this really has seemed the longest pregnancy in history.
Iris is a lovely name, there really are some gorgeous names that have been mentioned on here. Verity is another gorgeous one, can't remember whose little one she is but I love the name. Kind of wish I was having another girl

jw isn't ear pulling meant to be a sign of earache? read that somewhere I think. Maybe after all this pretend teething she is actually starting the real thing?

I tried that yesterday jw - didnt work and today I really want to get into town as we have been housebound all week with the Arctic conditions. Also D ha now decided that he simply cannot sleep unless the room is dark (which is why he pulls the blanket over his head)and quiet but he also won't sleep for longer than ten mins in a room on his own - he senses if one of us isn't there and wakes.

Measles epidemic becoming ever ore likely according to the news.

Foggy here too - not much else going on from what I can see.

jw - classic signs of teething to my reading ... I'd try the calpol or bonjella stuff. Especially with the pooing and fist in mouth. Is just the right timing too. She may be pulling her ear as it's the only thing sticking out that she can get hold of to distract herself. Poor little teething things.

Bonzo I've jsut seen that you're another one in the North West, you, me, JW, Floria and I think there's some one else - apologies to whoever it is I've forgotten.

Yep JW classic teething - plus the red bum sounds exactly like Verity. Still no blinkin sign of them though!

mrsB have LOADS of sympathy from me - tiredness is just not funny. Naughty D..naughty!

lilibet there's a lot to be said for peace of mind and, if you've got a 25yr mortgage, it probably all evens itself out in the end.

Iris loved nursery today - she stuck bits of felt onto a line drawing of a creepy clown [proud mummy emoticon]

I too read about the rise in measles I've said my piece before on what I think about all of that

Hi all. Gosh you have been chatty, it's taken me ages just to have a quick read through and catch up with all the goings on.

Good luck to all you dieters. If anyone is interested, here are my tips! I lost about 24lbs last year for our wedding in late June. I took to walking everywhere to start off with, even walking through the park to the station to meet DH on his way home. When I started to feel a bit fitter I found an exercise class in a local school hall. It was pay as you go which really suited me and I wasn't the 'wobbliest' there by any means. I did 2 classes a week, 3 if I was feeling fit.

I ate cereal with skimmed milk and a banana for breakfast and for lunch it would be something like smoked mackeral or tuna with salad. I also liked to eat leftovers from the night before - anything as long as it didn't involve bread. In the evenings I'd eat a fairly 'normal' dinner as I hated the idea of eating something different to the rest of the family. I just avoided cooking anything with a creamy sauce and I'd pile my plate up with veg. I ate a lot of rice to avoid eating potatoes too often.

I avoided bread and potatoes for the simple reason that I adore butter and mayonnaise and I can't stomach anything of the low-fat variety. I gave up wine on weeknights, though friday of course counted as the weekend .

Can I recommend steak and salad as one of my all time favourite diet meals? I found that I felt full and satisfied after eating it and didn't miss the carbs.

Just wanted to add, don't be too hard on yourselves. This time of year is the hardest to diet through as you just crave comfort food when it's cold and dark outside. Start off slowly now and go for the big push in Spring.

I haven't had chance to say hello and welcome to all the new girls.

I'm 45 and am 26 weeks pregnant with no 5. Have dd 24, ds 20 and dd (Grace) 12 by my ex. Been with wonderful DH, 33, for almost 5 years. We have Elizabeth who is 21 months and we found out in October that she is moderate to severely deaf. She is doing brilliantly with her hearing aids and she started speech therapy this morning. Bit nervous of having a 2 year gap between the 2 youngest. As you can see from the ages of my other children, they've been rather better spaced out up till now

I think it was duchesse that asked about testing. I had CVS this time round, didn't bother with Nuchal Test as I knew my age added in to the mix would give me such bad odds. The consultant who did mine at my local hospital had m/c odds of about 1%, though she said this was no higher than what my odds would be of miscarrying at that stage (11 weeks) of pregnancy anyway.

So sorry for you sleep-deprived mums. With my trusty Gaviscon I can actually get a good night's kip now, but if it's any consolation, come June I'll be up all night. Don't know how I'll cope, my DC are great sleepers these days. Oh dear.

mumoverseas, how exciting to know you'll be holding your baby in less than a month! I'd happily fast forward the next five months, am already bored of feeling rubbish and would quite happily look after a little one instead.

ladymac, I didn't realise that the gaps between your DC are almost the same as mine - just over 4 yrs between DD and DS and there will be nearly 7 yrs between DS and this one. I'm 42 now though, so suspect I shan't be doing it all over again in a decade, despite advances in science .

I think all your dietary advice sounds v sensible - not going mad and depriving the body of nutrients but cutting out the rubbish and piling on the veg - it's the only way to keep it off too, I'm sure.

On the subject of CVS and stats, I think that doctors sometimes say stuff to reassure you which is actually statistically suspect. Saying that having CVS carries the same likelihood as 'miscarrying anyway' isn't quite right: there may well be a 1% miscarriage rate at 11 wks, but that's a general, not a 'targeted' rate - it's not something you do that will cause miscarriage; it's just something that happens to 1% of 11 wk prgenant women - whereas undergoing a procedure which carries a 1% chance of miscarriage clearly does have that risk for your pregnancy directly. I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from taking tests - 1% is a small risk anyway - but the misuse of statistics is a bit of a bugbear.

I know what you mean ermintrude about statistics and I sometimes tear my hair out at how they are twisted to make a theory fit.

It's just that women get so terribly worried about CVS and the potential risk of miscarriage and I was just trying to put the other side of the argument - that you have a small chance of m/c when you are 11 weeks pregnant and that having a CVS only ups that risk by a tiny amount. My obstetrician friend told me that of the very small number of women who do miscarry after CVS or amnio it's thought that the majority of them miscarried a baby with chromosomal problems. As floria said in a recent post, her consultant had never had anyone miscarry following an amnio until she sadly did but she had a previously undiagnosed syndrome which probably contributed to it.