40+ Yummy (or not-so-yummy) Mummies, Come and Eat Cake

[ladymac]

Have taken the plunge, hope this is acceptable to everybody.

Well things aren't as bad as I thought. My weight is XX 12lbs which I expected and isn't a surprise, at least not to me. The Wii Fit said I was 47 so only 5 years out.

oh dear lordy mrsb I did it with Davina today and she's a filthy hard bitch to compete with. And she stands there effortlessly doing it while I was tripping over my feet and trying to keep up and all the time the cow is smiling I was knackered...out of puff...just as DD#1 rang me and I could hardly speak

My boobs aren't out of the ordinary size wise - 38c. However out of the bra they could slap on my knee caps

Totally agree on the shop window/shop mirror reflection. I often catch myself and think 'who the hell is that fat old biddy'? then realise it's me! On pics I can't get over how many chins grow but I swear they aren't there in the mirror. Where do they come from?

According to my BMI (which was about right on the Wii) I need to lose about 3 stone. Sounds so undo-able when I think about it but positive onwards and upwards and all that! Can do it in bite size chunks...mmmm...bite size chunks make me think of ...cakes.....

I totally agree ermintrude but today I'm wearing for the first time, a lovely funky tunic I bought from Joe Browns sale. Both myself and DH agree it could pass as a maternity top with the belly underneath

right, well every day from now on we are getting a teeny weeny bit thinner instead of a teeny bit fatter. That's the way to look at it. I can't think about the five stone or I will dive face first into a black forest gateaux

Davina is, I am told, on her way (in dvd form) to my house as I type. Eeeek..

Yeah, all you weight loss ladies can stand between me and ermintrude. I am 16 weeks today and I swear I look about 5 months with this big fat belly! Luckily my DH says I look hot!

ooooooooooooooh mrsb Davina is a comin'! On my dvd my DH said that the beginning when she chats to you, it seemed very user friendly and non gimmicky. I tell you what though my body is old and achey tonight. My knees don't have ache the most but I expect that's because of all the weight up top. Like you say though best to be positive rather than look at the whole of it as I feel that's too daunting.

Been to see the priest. Nice chap and it's all sorted out. Like Davina, he was very user friendly too

Tee you're at the other end of the spectrum to us who have had our babies. Hopefully you'll snap right back to pre-pregnancy weight and not have to do it 'the scenic route' like us lot!

All these companies going to the wall. It's almost like whose turn is it today? Very sad state of affairs.

jw PMSL@ Davina being both 'user friendly' and 'a filthy hard bitch' I'm glad the priest was just user friendly!!!

mrsB lol at diving face first into a black forest gateaux at the thought of 5 stones

Ladies, ladies ermintrude is right....no depressing talk before the pounds drop off. We can save all that for when we lose our resolve and start throwing things at Davina and the Wii fit

Well, I've just checked my BMI and I'm 'obese' and need to lose 2.5 stones Actually worse than I thought - as I've just got into a pair of size 12 jeans....MMmmm.

jw I agree - hearing about all these collapses is indeed sad. I dread to think who's next. And, as for the Gaza - Israel war ...just so sad. I met Yasser Arafat once - interesting man and although I understand very little about such a complex issue, I think the region is a more volatile place without him

blimey jj how the heck did you happen upon Yasser?

I've only had a bowl of porridge so far today so I am too underfed to do wii fit yet - after I have my jacket spud I will get on it. God thing about the wii fit is although you are moving around etc it's not like hard nut Davina making you all achey and tired.

how can you be obese and fit into size 12 jeans? I am a size 18. Boo!
Not for long!

tee how did the triple test go? when do you get the results?

JJ, you must be about 4ft to be obese at size 12! or are they Gap size 12 (ie. really size 16? ) Before pregnancy I had a pair of size 6 Gap jeans - they'd stretched over the years; I wouldn't fit in a new US size 6 - which made me feel good even though I KNEW they were actually a pretty large UK 10, and hipsters anyway so room for fat to roll over the top in attractive 'muffin top' stylee .

JW, glad the priest was nice. Did he offer face to face confession? I did that once with the scout chaplain when I was 15. I lied, of course, and then thought that not confessing my (actually pretty run of the mill) 'sins' was bad enough, but making up crap ones like not washing up was compounding the build-up of time in purgatory. Then I decided that the silly man shouldn't have offered in the first place.

I know mrsB ...that's what I'm not understanding....maybe it's a height thing (5ft6) - perhaps if I was 5ft 11 then I'd be OK I do have very odd shaped thighs. My butt is smaller than the tops of my legs....nice.

Happened upon Yasser through a friend who I was doing some freelance work with, and he
photographed Yasser for an article in a mag. Boy, the studio was alive with security!

mrsb I don't get the results for 10 - 14 days! They have to send the sample to Birmingham or something! Other than that, it was fine. Had a very long scan, saw heart beat, spine and little arms and legs! Oh and two hiccups!!

awww great - another scan I remember being amazed by the spinal cord - all the tiny individual bones - when I saw that I really started to believe it was going to happen

No confession ermintrude...I'd still be there now...come to think of it. I'd still be there in 2010 reeling them off

I remember going on a hen weekend where it was fancy dress a number of years ago. I went as a nun and I cannot tell you the number of men - when they'd had a few - who came up to me and wanted to tell me their sins. Nuns outfits seem to bring out the guilt.

Home alone tonight with just a copy of OK! and a mug of Ovaltine for company. Early night methinks.

We've been having fun with the Wii. DH is desperate to beat my scores. Waaaaaaaaaaay too competitive (but obviously nowwhere near as good as moi)

Wow what a lot of chat in the past twenty four hours I will never keep up with you all but then I spend my afternoons at the gym trying to get rid of the lbs and hoping that my skin will tone up in some sort of magical way, I have to be trim in order to fit back into my short skirts so that I can go clubbing again.

Floria big hugs.

Glad to see that the thread is expecting new arrivals good luck pg ladies.

My lo is now three months old and looks six mths he is a big boy and I have just stopped bf.

got to go baby crying.

Morning Rosebury. Glad to hear that LO is doing so well! Wow 6 months old eh?

I've cancelled K's bronchiolitis jab today as the weather is just too cold to take her out in. Plus it's snowed again overnight.

Body is complaining today after the bout of shaking my booty y'day. Hopefully this is good and not going to escalate to me needing a zimmer frame.

Morning all. I think we'll have to daub the house with a big red cross....UNCLEAN! Yes, the girls are still in bed...they're hot, sleepy and generally miserable Whatever the bug is - they've sure got it.

Did anyone see the Clare Sweeney - putting on weight thing? OMG - 2 stone in 6 weeks
Mind you - she always looks bulky to me - perhaps that's cos she's tall?

jw Ooooo stirling work on the Wii if the body is complaining!

Morning Rosebury Gosh is he 3 months already - that's shot by! And the GYM - you're at the GYM??? Oh ladies - I think we can see who is going to be the slinky one out of us lot. Oooooo - going clubbing....'big fish, little fish put-it-in-a-box'....rave on!!!'

Off to deal with exploding right breast

So tell me ladies, since everything must have moved on since the last time I did this- what tests for major abnormalities do they offer us elderly pregnant ladies these days? Back in the 90s I had nuchal fold scans and the triple test.

Does anyone have access to realistic stats re the rate of miscarriage after CVS and Amnio? My GP quoted 10% after CVS at me yesterday, which would certainly make me think twice about accepting it in the absence of any other indications.

All I'm really interested in finding out about is the kind of condition that would make any child highly dependent but likely to outlive us- ie major chromosomal abnormalities. I don't give a damn about the likes of cleft palate, etc ...

Hi duchesse

It varies from one local HA to another, but where I am (East Mids) over 35s are offered a nuchal scan at 12 wks, amnio/CVS thereafter if the odds are over 1:250, and triple bloods at 16wks. They're all discretionary of course. Some HAs don't offer the same and you may have to go private, which is a bind. You'll find a variety of approaches to testing on this and other threads - some women definitely wanting the lot, others wanting none, others going for the non-invasives but drawing a line there, etc. etc. In terms of chromosomal issues, the NT scan gives odds for Ewards and Patou as well as Down's, but of course they can't test for everything (including lots of conditions which will result in having a child dependent on care eg spectrum disorders). Nothing's foolproof!

The most quoted stat for miscarriage risk for amnio or CVS is 1%, not 10% - hope that's not your local stats!!

By age, my Down's odds were 1:60, by NT scan they were 1:322 - which means there's a 99.7% chance of my baby NOT having Down's. So I didn't bother with the bloods, and would only have done so to 'be prepared' in any case. Others on this thread have had much higher odds in favour of Down's but no babies had it.

Hope that helps, and that you can access what you need where you are.

morning, cripes it is cold. I am trying to decide whether to go to baby clinic or not, I am so slack with this 2nd baby I haven't had him weight for a month. with Ben I was up there every week.

Hi Duchess it seems you either go for no testing, the step approach or straight to a diagnostic test.

Personally I went for a nucal translucency scan which was combined with a blood test PAPA?? and then they further combined it with the triple test which for me gave me enough reassurance to take it no further. Whether you can have a nucal scan on the NHS depends on area, here you have to have it done privately even at 41.
JJ knows more about CVS & the risk of mc but I'm pretty sure the 10% is the standard quote and you need to ask the specific consultant on there stats.

Duchesse rate of m/c depends on your hospital...mine had a rate of 0.6% for amnio and approx double that for cvs ... my consultant had never had a m/c following amnio...(until me...but that was because I had undiagnosed anti-phospholipid syndrome)My hospital also offered me a nuchal fold scan but I believe some authorities dont and nuchals have to be done privately. Whatever you have done I hope it is all just perfect.

The summary so far, for the only diet on the pregnancy threads :

MrsB - xx stone 6 lbs
Hedgepig - xx stone 1 lbs
Lilibet - xx stone 10.5lb
JW - XX stone 12lbs
Floria - waiting for batteries
JJ - you only posted your BMI, not weight

Morning all!

duchesse I just had my triple test on Monday. They don't do Nuchal Fold here in NI, apparently. The Midwife who did my scan and took my blood said the rate of MC for Amnio was 1%. I don't know if that was overall or for my particular hospital.

DH and I have pretty much agreed that anything under about 1:100 (which is what I am at with my age) after the triple test means we won't go any further with testing. If its higher than that, then we'll do a genetic scan (which I thought I was getting, but apparently only if deemed necessary after triple test) and possibly a amnio.

OK, OK....my weight is....
MrsB - xx stone 6 lbs
Hedgepig - xx stone 1 lbs
Lilibet - xx stone 10.5lb
JW - XX stone 12lbs
Floria - waiting for batteries
JJ - XX stone 2lbs

WHAH! So yep - 2 stone overweight...

duchese I doubt very much if he meant 10% - if he did - then run, run like the wind and don't go there for a CVS!!

I had nuchal scan and bloods (not triple as they've ditched it in Bucks for too many false positives) With DD1 @ 41yrs I had 1:3,500 but with DD2 (42yrs)I had 1:2 I went to fetal med centre in London to the guy who invented it and I believe his record is pretty much a zero rate of miscarriage. I think it's a 1% risk - BUT, like floria says - a MC can occur from other things not associated with the CVS or Amnio. Anyway all turned out fine....so, 1:2 is by no means a certainty!

They've only just introduced free scanning in Bucks - so I had to pay - but I'm a 'need-to-know' person!

Interesting chat on Radio 4 this morning talking about autism screening and the moral dilema. Thing is NOTHING in this life is stress free or 'perfect'

Off to play with my stepper - get rid of that 2lbs!!

morning all

duchesses I only ever seen cvs and amnio m/c rats at a maximum of 1% - 2% - of course they differ depending on who does them but 10% would seem very high. When I went for my antenatal apps with the m/w she never suggested any testing I had to sort it all out myself.

I only have a little bit of stiffness in the calves from hoola hooping and ski jumping last night at midnight. Turned the Wii on before going to bed just to remind me how to set it up then got hooked on the hoola hooping which is knackering but fun. As I said yesterday I am using OH's mii until I reach a respectable weight - I stepped on the bloody thing and it said "your weight seems somewhat different from what it was before - do you wish to procceed?" Cringe!