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If I list the symptoms, can someone tell me what is wrong?

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 13/10/2008 16:23

I have a MW apointment tomorrow anyway, but am going around in circles in my head.

I am 29+ weeks, I am as grumpy as grumpy can be, I feel really really tired all the time, even when I have just woken up, I'm sleeping all night, either laying on the sofa or actually sleeping on it when I get the chance, I'm in bed for 9 o'clock most nights and sleep all night again, and yet I still am soooo tired, I feel sick with it. I know this all sounds so over the top, but I seriously can't do a thing without feeling sick from sheer exhaustion, yet with all the rest/sleep I am having it can't be tiredness, can it?

I am eating well, drinking like there is tomorrow though still feeling thirsty, all bodily functions () are working fine.

Other symptoms include getting really breathless for no apparent reason, (baby isn't pressing into my lungs yet, so not lack of space) I feel like I can't just settle, even when I am sleeping I am constantly twitching about and tossing and turning. I constantly feel like I am either going to be sick, or it is going to come out of the other end, but it never actually happens, and as I said it is normal when it does... IYKWIM?

Shitty shit shit, am I just a moaner? I just feel so wiped out, to the point where I even had to stop half way to school to get my breath and stop myself feeling sick, the school is across the road, not an hours walk away.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 14:35

AJM, I went to the labour ward last time with DS2, all they did was monitor me for an hour, BP was deemed fine (it was two days later I was rushed in in that ambulance for an EMCS because it wasn't fine), and I was sent away.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 14:37

I also thought it was a re-check on the bloods at 28 weeks, but nothing was mentioned.

My sample wouldn't be tested for protein, the MW's aronly in the GP surgery on Tuesday mornings, the sample would be sent off to the lab to be tested for any sign of infection. I wouldn't have thought they'd routinely check for protein, would they?

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ajm200 · 14/10/2008 14:39

i know how frustrating it can be. I went back and forth about 10x before they decided to induce me for PE last time. On one occasion the CMW rushed me in there in her car as my BP was dangerously high and the consultant she'd spoken to wanted to see me immediately for a CS only for it to be normal when I got there.

I guess you need to stand up to them a bit and demand blood tests, etc. I've been more demanding this time round and feel more in control.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 14:42

Sorry, should have been: "the midwives are only in the GP...." - my keyboard needs cleaning I think.

I just find it so difficult to ask for things to be done AJM, even when I know that's what's needed, I'd hate for them to think I am telling them how to do their job, and/or that I am just seeking attention or something.

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OoopsWeDidItAgain · 14/10/2008 14:47

I thought it was standard to test for protein - they do mine every time but perhaps it's because of my history.

How is the swelling now? Has it gone down at all? (it should go down with a couple of hours rest) And have you got it in your face?

Know what you mean about finding it difficult to ask for things - I'm a nightmare. But remember it's yours and your babies health you're looking after. You need to be taken seriously.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 14:50

It is stanard to test for protein at the ante-natel clinic, but since I didn't have a sample for them to test today she wants one dropping in when I can, but it would be tested at the lab for signs of a UTI, not for protein.

Swelling is very slightly worse. It is no where near as bad last time though. None in my face, but I didn't get it in my face lst time.

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OoopsWeDidItAgain · 14/10/2008 15:42

I guess it's just a 'wait and see'. Hopefully the swelling will go down when you get a chance to rest and the urine test will be fine.....go and sit on the toilet and squeeze out every drop you can!

I'm sorry that you are feeling so frustrated - it's horrid to think you are not being taken seriously and just labeled as 'anxious' when in fact, you're a normal pregnant woman who needs a sympathetic and understanding MW.

Hope you feel better soon.

happynappies · 14/10/2008 16:02

Oh NJ - just caught up with some of what has been going on - hope you're feeling better. Am so for you, the mw's should listen carefully to your concerns and take the approach that it is better to rule things out, rather than to be dismissive of your symptoms. I hope the Spatone is making you feel better anyway - I find that it always, always helps me. I've been feeling very 'empty' (like a car run out of petrol!) if that makes sense - as soon as I've had breakfast I feel weak and tired, and I'm puffing and panting just getting up and downstairs, but when I remember to have a Spatone in my orange juice it generally helps me to feel slightly more normal. I'm afraid I've found that the only way to get mw's to listen is to make a real nuisance of yourself, be really demanding, and say that you want a second opinion, you're not happy to leave it at that etc - it won't win you friends but they have to listen to you in the end! Good luck and I really hope you're ok.

NorthernLurker · 14/10/2008 16:28

So your BP is higher than previously and you have a history of pre-eclampsia and you can't wee? Right - well I think you should see a doctor today.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 17:00

Hiya Happy, problem is the "it won't win you any friends" if I get there, I am probably looking at a home birth, and it will be the same group of MW's who attend, the last thing I want is someone turning up who is of the opinion that I am no 'friend' IYKWIM? Sorry you are feeling crap as well.

NL, that's what I thought I'd be doing, but they obviously didn't feel the need was great enough to take it any further. She did do my BP twice, she said she wasn't even going to tell me the first one (I was crying so she expected it to be higher) the second one was what she wrote in my notes, as I said, it is higher than my norm, but not anywhere near problematic high.

The more I think about it, the more pissed off I am gettng (will be doing my BP the world of good no doubt!) I am really annoyed with myself for not being stronger while I was there, but I was crying, and the more I talked the more I cried, DS2 was wandering around the room messing with everything, and he was shattered so was miserable... no wonder she was so quick to just label me as just another stressed out pregnant mum!

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 17:00

Shit, sorry, will get the keyboard cleaned out...

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NorthernLurker · 14/10/2008 17:21

Don't feel annoyed with yourself. you rely on the midwifes judgementand normally I would be a big fan of that - it's just that I would have expected two higher BP readings and your other symptoms to rate more concern when she considers your history. Can you ring the local unit for a second opinion. I would be shocked if they said anything other than come in if you tell them about the swelling etc and then you could get some reassurance.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 14/10/2008 17:30

Well she deflected my history with the theory that because I'd made it to term last time before the PE set in, that it was unlikely to happen so early on this time.

I am nearly sure if I rang the labour ward they'd tell me to come in, but I have no one at all to look after the boys, and all they will do is take my BP again, if it is no worse than earlier then they'll just send us away again. We did it all last time.

I don't even know what I'd be expecting them to do, there is nothing they can do.

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ajm200 · 14/10/2008 17:40

If you still haven't managed to pee, they'll do a bit more than take your BP.

kayzisexpecting · 14/10/2008 18:49

Nat, I'm really sorry but I think you should kick up a stink with this. I'd be on the phone to the labour ward just even for reassurance!!!

I had my 28 week appt 3 weeks ago and she took blood. I'm sure its your first appt, 28 week and then your 34 week appt.

TotalChaos · 14/10/2008 19:03

agree with the other ladies about phoning up the maternity unit - I would take the not weeing very seriously indeed, in addition to the link to PE, urinary retention is very unpleasant.

NorthernLurker · 14/10/2008 20:03

Don't know whats happening now but I hope you're ok. Please ring the ward and get their view. PE is not something to be mucked around with - neither is urinary retention (and if you don't have a UTI now you soon will have with that going on!) I am frankly shocked that your midwife seems to be using 'hoping for the best' as her professional index! I don't say that easily either as I normally think pregnant women on mumsnet are panicking too much!

happynappies · 14/10/2008 20:14

I think I was a bit behind with what had been going on - sorry if I was off the mark with my comments, I thought you were tired/run down etc, not possibly having PE - I hope you've been in touch with GP or maternity ward to see if theres anything else they can do, hope you are ok NJ.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 15/10/2008 07:05

Swelling still here, deffo getting worse in my hands and legs, now also in feet and I'm not sure about my face, not sure if I am just talking myself into it, my eyes are deffo swollen, but that might just be all the crying yesterday

Have managed to have 2 very small wee's, too small to catch (am obviously not a good aimer...!) but the fact I had something is good right?

I am going to go to town and buy one of those BP monitor things, not sure how good they are, but at least I will feel like I am doing something, and not just waiting for next Tuesday to come round.

Am going to go and get my Spatone

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Flightattendant2 · 15/10/2008 07:17

NJ please go to the Dr TODAY and insist on some more help - they can check for protein in the surgery, with one of those dippers.

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 15/10/2008 07:21

Flight, it's no good, I've nothing for them to check.

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lulumama · 15/10/2008 07:25

nj, you go to the doctors and tell them you are unable to pass urine, not even enough to catch in a specimen pot to test

that is not normal

combined with your swelling and visual disturbances and previous history, they should take it seriously, if they don;t you have to really force the issue, for your own peace of mind

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NatalieJaneIsPregnantAgain · 15/10/2008 07:28

I think if nothing has changed by tomorrow I will, I can get DH to stay off so I'm not having to contend with DS2 as well, and get it sorted.

The MW knew all of this yesterday and wasn't interested, why would the GP be any more concerned? I think if I can say it's been going on for x number of days it might make him sit up and listen.

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lulumama · 15/10/2008 07:28

if you cannot pass urine, you will get an infection and and you might need catheterising

this is something that needs medical attention

if you have to, you will have to take the boys with you, but not weeing is bad

lulumama · 15/10/2008 07:28

x post, but i don;t really think you should wait until tomorrow

can DH not take the morning or afternoon off

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