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"Having a baby ruins your relationship"

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Starling543 · 01/08/2023 17:07

Hi all
I am expecting my first baby. I saw this article this morning which paints a very negative picture:

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20230628-why-couples-fight-after-having-a-baby

The article is long but the upshot of it is that research shows that having a baby negatively affects relationships with 90% of couples saying their relationship was worse after having a baby. I can understand this short term with lack of sleep etc but it seems to say these changes last for years and many couples consider breaking up!
The article recommends couples therapy as a way of coping. This seems like quite a big step.
I'm hoping to hear some advice from other people with babies as to how things have really been, and any tips that helped your relationship ... We waited a long time to have a baby and I really don't want it to jeopardize my marriage!

Having a baby can rock a marriage – and life post-children can be a challenge

The arrival of a child can be joyous – but it can also cause conflict in even the most rock-solid relationships.

https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20230628-why-couples-fight-after-having-a-baby

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qabsmep · 01/08/2023 18:51

Cognitivedisonance · 01/08/2023 18:36

That rather depends on how parenthood affects you doesn’t it? DH and I were the oldest children of large families , we’d been changing nappies and making bottles up since we were about 7 or 8. We absolutely knew what to expect. We weren’t tired either. By week three our routine was simple, he came home from work and I’d always have prepped the type of meal you just sling back in the oven for 20 mins ( lasagne / curry/ shepherds pie etc) so when Ds had had a bottle we’d put him in his basket or bouncer and eat our meal. Then I’d have a bath and sometimes meet DH in the bedroom for a quickie. Then we’d chat/ watch telly till 9pm and I’d go to bed. DH the night owl would wait until the 1am bottle Was done before bringing DS to bed in our room. We’d all sleep till about 5 then I’d take DS to the lounge to give him the morning bottle while DH slept in till 8. We were a very organised outfit and a very good team. DH was a much better burper/ rocker and settler of fussy time which was always just as he got through the door 😂. We definitely didn’t lose anything it was a really strengthening experience.

You sound like an expert, maybe write a book so everyone can do such a brilliant job with no issues as well 👍

SleepingStandingUp · 01/08/2023 18:52

Well as a couple who have a very poorly baby who kept nearly dying and who has long term mild additional needs and then twins, so a hearty combination of stress, I'd say we've never got close to even talking about it.

Usernameunknownfornow · 01/08/2023 18:52

qabsmep · 01/08/2023 18:50

@Usernameunknownfornow

What? That made no sense at all 😂

What?

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/08/2023 18:57

It wasn't accurate for us. Having our baby brought us closer but he also slept 12 hours at night by 8 weeks so we didn't experience the sleep deprivation for too long which definitely helped!

Thegrumpycup · 01/08/2023 19:02

IMO it doesn't change relationships. It just puts a big massive stadium light on all of the already existing flaws in that relationship and makes them obvious.

Most people on MN end up resenting their DP after kids. But then go onto say that they were a lazy halfwit who never did any housework in the decade they've been with them before the kids arrived.

For myself, having kids highlighted how little my STBXH ever considered anyone else other than himself. He'll probably say it made me less focused on him. When in reality I just couldn't put him first all of the time anymore because I had two kids to consider too!

autienotnaughti · 01/08/2023 19:09

I haven't read the article but the reality is children add a new dimension to your relationship which can be good and bad.

A lot of issues arise from unequal partnership. One partner (typical a female) doing more caring, more housework, more mental load. This can lead to frustration and resentment. Women's sex drive can take dip. You often have less time for each other and feel less inclined to make an effort due to tiredness, hormones , frustration. You may discover you have different tolerance levels or different parenting styles.

My dh and I have had a really challenging time the past 7 years. We have struggled massively but thankfully we have come out the other side stronger. It helps if you have a strong friendship. One piece of advice would be don't play who has the worst life. There are no winners in that game just 2 losers.

sharenn · 01/08/2023 19:10

I've read that statistic about child free couples being happier before, and it doesn't surprise me. More money, more leisure time, no sleep issues - DH and I had a great relationship pre-dc as we had nothing to bother us really.

We still have a strong relationship but it's very much focused around the dc, and it's less intimate simply through lack of opportunity/energy. We don't like using ad hoc childcare like babysitters so we don't do date nights, and I think our relationship misses out on that but then we have lots of amazing family days out and trips as we spend the whole weekend together as a family, which really bonds us all. He really pulls his weight with the dc although I'm a sahm so I do more. I'm not resentful of that because I only ever wanted to have dc as a sahm and I don't miss working life, but I know many women struggle with it. Neither of us are argumentative and we don't argue - that doesn't mean we leave stuff simmering, just that we're decent people who do our best and don't see the need for blame.

GoodChat · 01/08/2023 19:12

Our relationship is happier now, I think. We've got 2 and yes it's exhausting but it's such good fun.

Find your humour. You'll have a ball!

MammaTo · 01/08/2023 19:43

It didn’t negatively effect me and my partner gladly. But it did change the dynamic massively, I feel like we was passing ships taking it in turn to sleep and eat while the other seen to the baby or done the bottles etc.

But I remember seeing a post about how you have different chapters in your life and this chapter isn’t about us it’s about working together for our baby, we’ve had 13 years to ourselves before having a baby. Our time will come back but for now we have to focus on little one.

From reading mumsnet I would probably hazard a guess it also depends on who you are having a baby with, are they willing to be a team? Some posters other halves sound awful and don’t do a tap around the house to help and this would definitely strain a relationship.

MammaTo · 01/08/2023 19:44

Thegrumpycup · 01/08/2023 19:02

IMO it doesn't change relationships. It just puts a big massive stadium light on all of the already existing flaws in that relationship and makes them obvious.

Most people on MN end up resenting their DP after kids. But then go onto say that they were a lazy halfwit who never did any housework in the decade they've been with them before the kids arrived.

For myself, having kids highlighted how little my STBXH ever considered anyone else other than himself. He'll probably say it made me less focused on him. When in reality I just couldn't put him first all of the time anymore because I had two kids to consider too!

Exactly this.

Isthisexpected · 01/08/2023 19:49

The research suggests a mother's sleep is impacted for six years so definitely not short term. Get a copy of the mental load checklist from somewhere like Wife Work and talk now about how you see all these things being divided up and make plans for how you'll handle the challenges you can plan for. Many surprises may come along such as a new father finding his own childhood or mummy issues resurface when he suddenly has to compete for your attention.

It's not all doom and gloom but it changes things for most people. We nearly split twice.

Thehonestbadger · 01/08/2023 19:51

I’m honestly sat here reading all the ‘it strengthened ours’ comments trying to figure out what the deal is.

Are you the unicorn parents with the baby who slept through from 6 weeks old?
Are you a long way down the line and just looking back through rose tinted glasses?
Or are we just lying to make the OP feel better?

We wanted kids forever really. Independently and then together. We are professionals we thought we were ready.

Damn were we wrong.

The reality of parenting OP is that it makes life just about 500% more problematic than it was pre kids. It strips away your freedoms, you no longer get autonomy over your life the same way. All the little things you used to take completely for granted… they’re so hard…almost impossible most of the time. There’s a whole other person (2 in our case) and for the first 5 years their needs are pretty high and need to be met almost entirely by you. They also have to be attended CONSTANTLY so either you either balance this between you, rope in a willing family member or you pay through the nose for care.

If you pay for care be warned the first 6 months they’ll barely be there because they will be unwell ALL of the time and you will be unwell when they’re unwell, arguing over who has to take time off work this time because you’re both already on attendance warnings, all whilst still paying £60-90 per day to the nursery they aren’t actually going to.

All of the things you thought would be fun to do with <5’s aren’t. At all! They whinge and cry and fight each other, everything is expensive and no one is listening and half the time you’ll drive to/from the activity with EVERYONE crying including you. They break stuff, throw stuff, have very little safety awareness and honestly toddlers are just the worst. You can’t reason with them, my 2yo daughter had a screaming fit that lasted 30 minutes the other day because she wanted THE CAT to open her yogurt… I wish I was kidding 🤦‍♀️

They do not do to bed it’s hours of ‘go to sleep’, ‘go to sleep’ ‘I SAID GO TO SLEEP’
All whilst they cry and whinge at their gates requested snacks and drinks and toilet trips and nappy changes and books and YOUR SOUL! It’s a lie that they suddenly sleep through from 6 months. My 2yo DD still wakes up demanding ‘more milk’ 2-3 times a night and we have literally tried everything other than sacrificing a goat and dancing around a field naked at midnight, NOTHING WORKS!
Your relationship breaks down because you are never just a couple, either you’re sat down stairs with the TV on pause and dinner going cold whilst your partner is upstairs dealing with the carnage, or you’re the one in the toddlers bed waking up at 3am with a dodgy back and a child on top of you. You can’t go out to do things you enjoy like shopping centres or nice cafes with toddlers because you just spend the whole time focused on them, what they’re doing, what damage and carnage they are creating.

You spend 90% of your time covered in grot, I’m talking multiple bodily fluids, sticky finger prints, half the time you don’t even know what it is. Your partner will usually figure out that he can avoid this by scheduling hobbies and activities that on the surface of it are ‘healthy’ and ‘important for his mental health but at the same time just stick you with Constant childcare and he’ll make comments like ‘but you can do it too’ but in fact you can’t do it 🤷‍♀️ because you’ve lost most of your friends in the baby stages and those you do have are all mums too and it takes 4 years and 3 PA’s to schedule a single coffee date. Plus when you leave the kids with your partner he doesn’t do things the way you do which throws the kids routines off and that just comes back to bite you doesn’t it?

He suggests fun things to do but all the planning, packing, facilitating and general sorting will be on you. Going away for one night requires more luggage than a weeks holiday used to and you’ll be ‘just popping to Asda for bits’ for at least 3 days before you leave because your minds a sieve now and you never get time to sit and make a list and when you do go you’ve got screaming toddlers running a mock so you always forget something. People tut at you, you’re an inconvenience and your kids are annoying because they’ve minorly inconvenienced somebody.
Have you every tried to unpack a trolley whilst the 2yo in it screams bloody murder and throws every single item then can reach on the floor? Other than the raw sausages ofc which they immediately stick their fingers into and try and eat…and now you’re holding up the queue so there is more tutting.

People used to be lovely to you. You were a youngish, pretty, productive member of society and now you’re here having a break down at a checkout with two screaming toddlers, greasy hair and ABSOLUTELY nothing left to give!!

The resentment creeps in and builds up. You raising issues and communicating openly and clearly becomes ‘having a go’ and ‘nagging’ because he knows your point is valid but he’s tired and fed up and honestly just doesn’t want to give anymore so it’s easier to paint you out as the bad guy.
Why are you always so cross?
Why have you let yourself go?
Why aren’t you the woman you were 5 years ago?

If you only have one child and you have a very good support network both paid and unpaid you might be ok. Literally every other parent/family we know are in this boat ^ oh and before you shrug your shoulders and think ‘poor woman but that won’t be us’ please know that we really didn’t think it would be us either.

DH is a doctor, I worked in finance. We had a nice house/car/life we read every parenting book we had so many ideals… our kids were not going to have screens until they they were 2+ (I’m laughing whilst typing this - on the toilet whilst hiding from DH who is doing bedtime)

Good luck OP

Noicant · 01/08/2023 19:51

We found the first year extremely hard. Started improving at 2years at 3 years marriage is probably stronger than before. But I think it relies on everyone pitching in and not letting resentment get embedded. Ours wouldn’t be put down and always slept badly (still does).

Noicant · 01/08/2023 19:58

I think my marriage is stronger because DH I got through the “you need to do more, I’m knackered” bit and realised we were both trying very hard. After those years I know Dh will run himself into the ground for me and DD and I will do the same for thing. Some people find having kids easy, personally I’ve found adjusting to the lack of freedom and being on call very hard but I know Dh is there with me and putting in the same effort. Makes a big difference.

Kim729 · 01/08/2023 20:01

It really put a strain on my marriage and it was beyond recognition for a long time. I was really proud of our marriage before having our first: we had had a handful of proper arguments in nearly a decade together and were so happy and in love. I naively thought it’d remain untouched by parenthood! 😂

The sleep deprivation actually gets worse for many as they get older. My newborn usually slept like a dream. But many toddlers (certainly in my family and friendship group) can seemingly run on a few hours sleep, despite the best will in the world and the trialling of different routines etc. This obviously affects intimacy and your mood. There’ll always be some parents who believe it’s down to their routines or some kind of intervention on their part but it’s honestly pure luck a lot of the time, whether your child’s a a good sleeper or whatever else. We found giving each other rringfenced time alone each week helped with this. It could be something as small as a run or bubble bath.

It’s not just about the sleep, of course. We shared the load fairly equally but there’s possibly still a little resentment there I think when you become the main caregiver. Yes, my husband went to work then came home and helped out but at least he could come home and have a bit of a break from his job. His full time job felt nothing like my 24/7 one as a mum. Overcommunicate your precise roles before the baby arrives and make it clear there’ll be no reminders.

Before becoming a mum, I’d come home and talk about exciting projects at work, my conversations with friends I’d seen throughout the week occasionally (not just the weekend), what I was reading, we’d debate about the news… We went on dates and even when staying at home, we cooked together and watched films etc. Like I said, our baby slept well but when they sleep it’s time to do the endless chores like sterilising a breast pump! Our washing basket was NEVER empty and neither was our sink/dishwasher with feeding equipment. Our conversations became about how our baby slept/ate/pooed that day. Being strict with a baby talk free dinner one night might work.

Childbirth (a C section), breastfeeding and pregnancy really knocked my confidence too as my body was also beyond recognition. I no longer wanted to get dressed up and go out when my husband suggested it. I no longer had time for the several classes and gym sessions.

It’s interesting to read from those whose marriages were unaffected. Can’t help but think some had “good babies”.

But as hard as it is, we love being parents and often say how lucky we are to have each other and our family, even in the darkest moments A especially in those moments in fact! We would stare at our little one in awe despite being absolutely wrecked. He would also tell me I looked beautiful (I really didn’t) when covered in sick and sometimes even a bit of poo.

Communication is key. All the best OP!

USaYwHatNow · 01/08/2023 20:04

I've not read the article you pinned but we've got an 11mo. In all honesty, I think it's made us stronger. We've laughed together as our DS has sharted up our sleeves at 3am, supported each other through the sleepless nights. My husband did everything he could to help me breastfeed, I literally didn't have to lift a finger. I've fallen in love with him all over again seeing him with our boy and I know he has a deeper respect for me. He tells me often how proud of me he is, and he is working hard to continue to build a stable future for our family. We often look at our baby boy and wonder out loud to each other about how lucky we are. It doesn't have to be all doom and gloom. Don't get me wrong, there's been short sharp words, but we're not a shout, arguing couple. We're quite measured and would rather talk it out, and I think that's why we've been okay because we knew how to communicate BEFORE baby arrived.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/08/2023 20:12

Thehonestbadger · 01/08/2023 19:51

I’m honestly sat here reading all the ‘it strengthened ours’ comments trying to figure out what the deal is.

Are you the unicorn parents with the baby who slept through from 6 weeks old?
Are you a long way down the line and just looking back through rose tinted glasses?
Or are we just lying to make the OP feel better?

We wanted kids forever really. Independently and then together. We are professionals we thought we were ready.

Damn were we wrong.

The reality of parenting OP is that it makes life just about 500% more problematic than it was pre kids. It strips away your freedoms, you no longer get autonomy over your life the same way. All the little things you used to take completely for granted… they’re so hard…almost impossible most of the time. There’s a whole other person (2 in our case) and for the first 5 years their needs are pretty high and need to be met almost entirely by you. They also have to be attended CONSTANTLY so either you either balance this between you, rope in a willing family member or you pay through the nose for care.

If you pay for care be warned the first 6 months they’ll barely be there because they will be unwell ALL of the time and you will be unwell when they’re unwell, arguing over who has to take time off work this time because you’re both already on attendance warnings, all whilst still paying £60-90 per day to the nursery they aren’t actually going to.

All of the things you thought would be fun to do with <5’s aren’t. At all! They whinge and cry and fight each other, everything is expensive and no one is listening and half the time you’ll drive to/from the activity with EVERYONE crying including you. They break stuff, throw stuff, have very little safety awareness and honestly toddlers are just the worst. You can’t reason with them, my 2yo daughter had a screaming fit that lasted 30 minutes the other day because she wanted THE CAT to open her yogurt… I wish I was kidding 🤦‍♀️

They do not do to bed it’s hours of ‘go to sleep’, ‘go to sleep’ ‘I SAID GO TO SLEEP’
All whilst they cry and whinge at their gates requested snacks and drinks and toilet trips and nappy changes and books and YOUR SOUL! It’s a lie that they suddenly sleep through from 6 months. My 2yo DD still wakes up demanding ‘more milk’ 2-3 times a night and we have literally tried everything other than sacrificing a goat and dancing around a field naked at midnight, NOTHING WORKS!
Your relationship breaks down because you are never just a couple, either you’re sat down stairs with the TV on pause and dinner going cold whilst your partner is upstairs dealing with the carnage, or you’re the one in the toddlers bed waking up at 3am with a dodgy back and a child on top of you. You can’t go out to do things you enjoy like shopping centres or nice cafes with toddlers because you just spend the whole time focused on them, what they’re doing, what damage and carnage they are creating.

You spend 90% of your time covered in grot, I’m talking multiple bodily fluids, sticky finger prints, half the time you don’t even know what it is. Your partner will usually figure out that he can avoid this by scheduling hobbies and activities that on the surface of it are ‘healthy’ and ‘important for his mental health but at the same time just stick you with Constant childcare and he’ll make comments like ‘but you can do it too’ but in fact you can’t do it 🤷‍♀️ because you’ve lost most of your friends in the baby stages and those you do have are all mums too and it takes 4 years and 3 PA’s to schedule a single coffee date. Plus when you leave the kids with your partner he doesn’t do things the way you do which throws the kids routines off and that just comes back to bite you doesn’t it?

He suggests fun things to do but all the planning, packing, facilitating and general sorting will be on you. Going away for one night requires more luggage than a weeks holiday used to and you’ll be ‘just popping to Asda for bits’ for at least 3 days before you leave because your minds a sieve now and you never get time to sit and make a list and when you do go you’ve got screaming toddlers running a mock so you always forget something. People tut at you, you’re an inconvenience and your kids are annoying because they’ve minorly inconvenienced somebody.
Have you every tried to unpack a trolley whilst the 2yo in it screams bloody murder and throws every single item then can reach on the floor? Other than the raw sausages ofc which they immediately stick their fingers into and try and eat…and now you’re holding up the queue so there is more tutting.

People used to be lovely to you. You were a youngish, pretty, productive member of society and now you’re here having a break down at a checkout with two screaming toddlers, greasy hair and ABSOLUTELY nothing left to give!!

The resentment creeps in and builds up. You raising issues and communicating openly and clearly becomes ‘having a go’ and ‘nagging’ because he knows your point is valid but he’s tired and fed up and honestly just doesn’t want to give anymore so it’s easier to paint you out as the bad guy.
Why are you always so cross?
Why have you let yourself go?
Why aren’t you the woman you were 5 years ago?

If you only have one child and you have a very good support network both paid and unpaid you might be ok. Literally every other parent/family we know are in this boat ^ oh and before you shrug your shoulders and think ‘poor woman but that won’t be us’ please know that we really didn’t think it would be us either.

DH is a doctor, I worked in finance. We had a nice house/car/life we read every parenting book we had so many ideals… our kids were not going to have screens until they they were 2+ (I’m laughing whilst typing this - on the toilet whilst hiding from DH who is doing bedtime)

Good luck OP

I do have a baby who has slept through since 8 weeks but my husband is also nothing like the description of your partner.

onlyamam · 01/08/2023 20:12

If your relationship isn't rock solid, don't have a baby. It's difficult even when it is.

Kim729 · 01/08/2023 20:13

Thehonestbadger · 01/08/2023 19:51

I’m honestly sat here reading all the ‘it strengthened ours’ comments trying to figure out what the deal is.

Are you the unicorn parents with the baby who slept through from 6 weeks old?
Are you a long way down the line and just looking back through rose tinted glasses?
Or are we just lying to make the OP feel better?

We wanted kids forever really. Independently and then together. We are professionals we thought we were ready.

Damn were we wrong.

The reality of parenting OP is that it makes life just about 500% more problematic than it was pre kids. It strips away your freedoms, you no longer get autonomy over your life the same way. All the little things you used to take completely for granted… they’re so hard…almost impossible most of the time. There’s a whole other person (2 in our case) and for the first 5 years their needs are pretty high and need to be met almost entirely by you. They also have to be attended CONSTANTLY so either you either balance this between you, rope in a willing family member or you pay through the nose for care.

If you pay for care be warned the first 6 months they’ll barely be there because they will be unwell ALL of the time and you will be unwell when they’re unwell, arguing over who has to take time off work this time because you’re both already on attendance warnings, all whilst still paying £60-90 per day to the nursery they aren’t actually going to.

All of the things you thought would be fun to do with <5’s aren’t. At all! They whinge and cry and fight each other, everything is expensive and no one is listening and half the time you’ll drive to/from the activity with EVERYONE crying including you. They break stuff, throw stuff, have very little safety awareness and honestly toddlers are just the worst. You can’t reason with them, my 2yo daughter had a screaming fit that lasted 30 minutes the other day because she wanted THE CAT to open her yogurt… I wish I was kidding 🤦‍♀️

They do not do to bed it’s hours of ‘go to sleep’, ‘go to sleep’ ‘I SAID GO TO SLEEP’
All whilst they cry and whinge at their gates requested snacks and drinks and toilet trips and nappy changes and books and YOUR SOUL! It’s a lie that they suddenly sleep through from 6 months. My 2yo DD still wakes up demanding ‘more milk’ 2-3 times a night and we have literally tried everything other than sacrificing a goat and dancing around a field naked at midnight, NOTHING WORKS!
Your relationship breaks down because you are never just a couple, either you’re sat down stairs with the TV on pause and dinner going cold whilst your partner is upstairs dealing with the carnage, or you’re the one in the toddlers bed waking up at 3am with a dodgy back and a child on top of you. You can’t go out to do things you enjoy like shopping centres or nice cafes with toddlers because you just spend the whole time focused on them, what they’re doing, what damage and carnage they are creating.

You spend 90% of your time covered in grot, I’m talking multiple bodily fluids, sticky finger prints, half the time you don’t even know what it is. Your partner will usually figure out that he can avoid this by scheduling hobbies and activities that on the surface of it are ‘healthy’ and ‘important for his mental health but at the same time just stick you with Constant childcare and he’ll make comments like ‘but you can do it too’ but in fact you can’t do it 🤷‍♀️ because you’ve lost most of your friends in the baby stages and those you do have are all mums too and it takes 4 years and 3 PA’s to schedule a single coffee date. Plus when you leave the kids with your partner he doesn’t do things the way you do which throws the kids routines off and that just comes back to bite you doesn’t it?

He suggests fun things to do but all the planning, packing, facilitating and general sorting will be on you. Going away for one night requires more luggage than a weeks holiday used to and you’ll be ‘just popping to Asda for bits’ for at least 3 days before you leave because your minds a sieve now and you never get time to sit and make a list and when you do go you’ve got screaming toddlers running a mock so you always forget something. People tut at you, you’re an inconvenience and your kids are annoying because they’ve minorly inconvenienced somebody.
Have you every tried to unpack a trolley whilst the 2yo in it screams bloody murder and throws every single item then can reach on the floor? Other than the raw sausages ofc which they immediately stick their fingers into and try and eat…and now you’re holding up the queue so there is more tutting.

People used to be lovely to you. You were a youngish, pretty, productive member of society and now you’re here having a break down at a checkout with two screaming toddlers, greasy hair and ABSOLUTELY nothing left to give!!

The resentment creeps in and builds up. You raising issues and communicating openly and clearly becomes ‘having a go’ and ‘nagging’ because he knows your point is valid but he’s tired and fed up and honestly just doesn’t want to give anymore so it’s easier to paint you out as the bad guy.
Why are you always so cross?
Why have you let yourself go?
Why aren’t you the woman you were 5 years ago?

If you only have one child and you have a very good support network both paid and unpaid you might be ok. Literally every other parent/family we know are in this boat ^ oh and before you shrug your shoulders and think ‘poor woman but that won’t be us’ please know that we really didn’t think it would be us either.

DH is a doctor, I worked in finance. We had a nice house/car/life we read every parenting book we had so many ideals… our kids were not going to have screens until they they were 2+ (I’m laughing whilst typing this - on the toilet whilst hiding from DH who is doing bedtime)

Good luck OP

Ha ha! There’s a cognitive bias called euphoric recall where events tend to be remembered in an optimistic light. I think this may be happening here. 😁 Or the ones whose marriages are on the rocks are too busy to reply as they’re doing the (four-hour long) bedtime routine…

I’m joking before anyone @s me. Sort of. 😁

Mummy08m · 01/08/2023 20:14

Dd was very difficult, never slept and cried fir hours at a time. I had a horrific birth and it took me ages to recover physically (and even longer emotionally).

But it's brought me and dh closer for sure. In a similar way to if you survived an apocalypse with someone.

My no1 tip if it's at all possible for you - extended paternity leave. It's the best way to save your sanity and your relationship imo. There are governmental shared leave schemes if your dh's employer doesn't have a generous pat leave offer.

onlylovecanhurtlikethis · 01/08/2023 20:18

Was fine when we had our first child but marriage imploded when we had our twins

Hiddenvoice · 01/08/2023 20:18

Since having a baby my marriage has been rocky at times. There’s definitely hard points and low points. There has felt like more arguing and snapping at each other. During mat leave he resented how much time I got to spend with our baby and I resented that he was able to eat and go about his day without a crying baby clinging to him. Overall yes it’s been tough but we feel so much stronger. We have talked about our feelings, we’ve tried to make sure we spend quality time together, even just watching a film or new tv show together once the baby is in bed.

I do not regret one minute of it, watching him become a dad and interact with our baby is amazing and makes my heart burst. Our family days out are everything I dreamed of, even when the baby screams in the restaurant and we snap at each other about running late. We are a team and we get through it together.

What I would say is once you’re ready to leave your baby for a little while then try keep up some form of date time. We do date days as it’s easier for us but also make sure you both get your own time. My dh doesn’t go out often but he likes to game so might spend a night a week online gaming. I like to try meet up with friends even just for a coffee. It’s good to have a little apart to feel like you again.

Hazelnuttella · 01/08/2023 20:24

I felt like our romantic relationship was put on hold for a year, and we functioned like friends/ housemates.

Luckily it worked for us as equal partners as we were both on the same page. And we rekindled it fine.

Most of the problems I read about on mn arise because the mum does 80% of the work and is exhausted, meanwhile the dad still has lots of free time/ energy. So the resentment grows on both sides. New mum resents doing all the work. New dad resents the fact that he isn’t getting any attention or sex.

Moancup · 01/08/2023 20:34

We’re only a year in but so far it’s strengthened our relationship. It’s turned us into a team in the way we weren’t before. We both take huge pleasure in watching the other one parent our son. We enjoy being parents more than either of us expected and yes, conversation does revolve around nappies, feeding etc but tbh I’m more interested in that than DP’s work projects.

Colic and co sleeping has killed our sex life though.

Thehonestbadger · 01/08/2023 20:41

I should note that not all I said is specifically about my relationship rather observations of those around us.
My DH doesn’t disappear on activities/hobbies, he does work long hours though. The hobbies/activities are issues a lot of my mum friends deal with

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