Doctor won't give me Propranolol

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Not sure why as Google says it's ok. 22 weeks pregnant and having panic attacks

I think medication in pregnancy can be a bit of a risk vs benefit scenario so shouldn't really compare to what others are prescribed. If you feel you need something for anxiety whilst pregnant speak with gp about it and follow their advice. If you're not happy with what they've said you could always ask for another opinion?

Sometimes in some patients, the benefits outweigh the risks but that doesn't make it safe. It's a case of balancing the pros and cons.

Ultimately do you feel that the panic attacks are having a bigger impact on your mental health than the loss of your baby would?

Bit it doesn't lead to pregnancy loss.....

They said they don't know what else he can prescribe so has made contact with perinatal.

I accidentally overdosed on this stuff and nearly died. It was horrendous. Hope you feel better soon x

He’s right.

Beta blockers carry significant risk in pregnancy with severe adverse effects on the baby.

If he says it's not safe in pregnancy believe him. This is not the time to over ride a doctor's expertise. If they were saf before pregnancy it doesn't mean they're safe now.

You don't know more than your GP.

I was on them for panic attacks at work before I got pregnant. I then was too scared to take them and the doctor agreed that it wasn’t a good idea but I think it’s more of a risk vs benefit situation and if need be they probably would say you could take them if your need for them outweighed any possible risks. I ended up surviving on anything ‘natural’ I could find instead. I would chew the rescue remedy chews non stop. I don’t even think they’d necessarily be encouraged either but I needed to have something. I had kalms too but didn’t actually take them, I’m sure they say on the box not to.

It’s about the risk to the baby. It can cause poor growth and low blood sugars, which can be very serious.
Are the “occasional panic attacks” debilitating enough to justify that risk? Your doctor doesn’t think so.
Get a second opinion if you want to. Or sign up to therapy with your local IAPT team instead. Please don’t use it against medical advice.

OP you can get therapy for your panic attacks, you’ll be prioritised as you’re pregnant, please try that.

I'm not able to get any therapy unless it's given by perinatal. The referral will be rejected.

Occasional use of a BB isn't going to cause that though....

That's good. The perinatal team should have more experience and more specific knowledge around pregnancy and the pros and cons. In the meantime are there other things you can try which might help reduce your anxiety until you can see someone? I've no experience/qualifications in mh so I'm not sure what to suggest to ease any symptoms etc but there's lots of things online for support. Have you any other support while you wait on referral?

I'm under the care of perinatal and I have to wait for them to complete their assessment in three weeks. I can't get any other therapy, it will be rejected

You aren’t medically qualified to know that OP. You are risking the health of your baby if you go against medical advice. If you’re fine with that then that’s up to you.

@HappyJoyousFree all referrals and support are based on what perinatal or community mental health (same team) will offer. CMHT have cancelled my appointment again. Perinatal are aware.

Again, other women have been given it

Perinatal work is amazing. When I was pregnant with my last baby I’d just left abusive ex, moved to a new town, restarted life with kids on my own and they pulled me out. I didn’t want the baby I was in bits. But once I had him the care around me was unreal. They work wonders give it time xxx I have bipolar too and went un medicated xx

But the doctor was happy for you to take them if you wanted to? The Beta blockers?

OP you say occasional use, but how does that work, would you just take it as you feel a panic attack coming on? Thats not likely to work

If not, then you'd need to take it every day, so not occasionale use

You have no idea why your doctor wasn’t happy for you to have it and why other women may have been prescribed it. Your attitude seems really off here. Far better to look at other ways of dealing with occasional panic attacks when pregnant.

While beta blockers may be safe in pregnancy there is a risk of interuterine growth restriction due to reduced blood flow (due to how the pills work). T
Extra scans are needed to monitor the unborn baby. By taking the pills with your team's knowledge you are risking any problems not being detected.

People have tried to be nice and helpful on here and you haven't listened so why don't you try growing the fuck up and looking after your unborn baby. A GP, a recognised medical professional, has told you it's not safe for you to take in your pregnancy. Who gives a shiny shit if other women have been prescribed it? The doctor clearly feels in your case the risks outweigh any benefits. Go get a second opinion if you want from another GP but nobody on here is going to tell you it's fine to take it. You're not listening to what anyone is telling you but if you want to go against medical advice and risk the health of your baby then go right ahead, it's been a long time since I've seen such a stupid set of replies from an OP on here.

Again, other women have been given it

Again, and again as everyone is saying, that's not relevant. You sound like you're determined to take them anyway. Why would you take the risk?

Why are you asking ????

I was on sleeping meds when I got pregnant (16years ago). I was advised I could continue but baby might be floppy and struggle when first born . I settled down for a week with duvet and box sets as my dc was not going to be born with issues because I was reliant on medication.
I was also on antidepressants but risk of me coming off them considered too high.

This is time for you to put statergies in place . I say this as someone who suffered from panic attacks and had lorazepam as pen medication.

you seem to think you know best though 🤷‍♂️