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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 17/07/2023 19:34

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
//sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
//cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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LucindaE · 17/07/2023 19:34

Here's the brand new thread, everyone.

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LucindaE · 17/07/2023 21:39

Kingfisher657
Sorry, I forgot to reply to the surgery refusing you Xonvea on the grounds that it is 'blacklisted'. That is, as you say, so weird, when it was designed for pregnancy
sickness. Could it be an expense issue?

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QueenBee22 · 18/07/2023 11:59

@StrongSeedling thank you for your kind words and well wishes. Baby is doing okay considering but has a long road ahead but he is in the right place. How are you doing and feeling? I hope you found a combination of meds that work for you.

I just don't know myself being able to eat and drink normally again. My mother had the nausea right up until she went into labour with all her pregnancies so it is just bad luck with genes I think! The relief once delivery was over is unbelievable.

LucindaE · 18/07/2023 21:23

QueenBee22 Yours is ver happy news. Delighted for you. Have some more FlowersStar Enjoy your baby and feeling normal again. SmileAlmost everyone gets relief from the symptoms either immediately after labour, or within a day or so. A very tiny number of sufferers, maybe ten out of hunderds on the twelve years or so of these threads - I was one, though I didn't have severe Hyperemesis - continue to have much milder nausea with the let down hormones, but these all vanish when they stop b/f ing. I never know whether to warn sufferers about this, as while it is bad enough to suffer during pregnancy, but it is extremely unusual.

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LucindaE · 19/07/2023 19:48

I have to go down to my elderly mother's for a couple of days, and there's no chance of using the internet there, but I hope everyone will be able to look out for each other on this thread. I should be back on Sunday or Monday.

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QueenBee22 · 19/07/2023 22:35

@LucindaE Thank you for your well wishes. It is a great feeling.

I am sorry to hear you had that experience. I can't imagine still having the nausea beyond delivery. I have never heard of anyone suffering postnatally. How awful for you. I hope your doctor at the time was understanding.

Rohise · 21/07/2023 21:29

Kingfisher657
hello. I got the same result with xonvea. It was blacklisted in my gp practice/community as well. And my gp literally can’t prescribe it for me.

i really think there should be more awareness about hg. Not to discredit my gp, but she hasn’t even heard about xonvea until i told her about it. But again she cant prescribe it for me. I guess it is a new-ish drug.

Yarnle · 21/07/2023 21:38

Anyone else feeling really rubbish and down?? 23 weeks and my nausea has ramped back up this past couple of days and it’s making me feel so down. It’s 24/7 no let up 😫😫

LucindaE · 23/07/2023 20:47

Back. Yarnie Sorry about symptoms increasing. That is miserable. Many suffer from a hormonal surge around 20 weeks, might it be a delayed form of that? Can they juggle your meds at all?
QueenBee22 Really glad for you. It's only a handful of sufferers who have symptoms lingering after birth, usually to do with the let down hormones. Thanks for sympathy; they were dismissive, but it was long ago (my daughter is long grown up now), and hopefully, attitudes have become more humane now!
Rohise and Kingfisher657 It is so bizarre, when Xonvea was designed specifically for pregnancy.
Apologies for anyone rudely overlooked.

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Yarnle · 24/07/2023 15:59

I think it may have been? Seems to have settled a bit now but still absolutely wiped out and still in bed at 4pm apart from washing the dishes earlier! Fun and games this 🙃

happyclam · 24/07/2023 17:58

Hi everyone! I've just seen this thread and hoping I might be able to ask some advice? Feel so much empathy for anyone struggling with this!

I've been feeling sick on and off most days since about week 4, with vomiting probably on average 1-2 times a day, usually after dinner 🙁 trying to avoid trigger foods but that list is getting a lot longer!! But I don't feel my morning sickness is HG bad at all; I know a lot of people have it worse!

Im now 15w0d and I've just weighed myself and I've actually lost 2lbs since I got pregnant - but I'm overweight anyway, 14st and 5'6ish so my bmi was 31 at booking. Baby seems to be growing fine, was measuring a week ahead at the 12 week scan. Do I need to talk to anyone because of the weight loss? I was going to just bring it up at my next midwife appointment in 2 weeks but just thought I'd check with you all if anyone has been in the same boat?

LucindaE · 24/07/2023 20:29

happyclam Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. Some have Hyperemesis worse than others, and it is possible to have it with little or not vomiting. When you say vomits, I expect you mean two separate sessions, but if there are many heaves, that can be quite ennervating, and twice a day is severe pregnancy sickness, particularly lasting after fifteen weeks. Have they offered you any meds? Re: the weight loss, they used to have rigid rules about what counted as a matter of concern, which I know has changed over time, so it might be worth mentioning, despite being overweight before Hyperemesis. Here is my normal spiel,which I hope helps. Most sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommended), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry orchocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Frozen apple juice has been recommended. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings and dry cereeal.
Yarnie I am glad the violence of that has subsided, but sorry to hear you are still bed bound.

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happyclam · 24/07/2023 21:13

Oh your post is super helpful @LucindaE thank you!

It’s less that I have lots of heaves, more that after I eat I just can’t keep the food down half the time 🙁 it just sits in my stomach and then has to come up! And then feel sick when I have an empty stomach! Not fun.. have to keep tabs on what I'm eating close together because I had a mix of sausages and chocolate an hour apart the other day which wasn't fun when it came back up!! Sorry if tmi!

Haven’t mentioned it yet to healthcare because haven’t seen anyone since booking in appointment weeks and weeks ago - just keep hoping it will go away soon! I’ll definitely try your advice and see how I get on.. I’ve found salted hula hoops are a saviour for me sometimes!

LucindaE · 25/07/2023 20:46

happyclam I think it might definitely be worth asking for anti sickness meds. As I say in that spiel, a good anti acid can make a big difference. I am glad the advice seems helpful. Never worry about tmi on here; there can be no such thing.

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Lwrenagain · 26/07/2023 10:44

Hello hg friends!

Really struggling today, I'm 33 weeks, full of cyclizine, ondansetron, prednisolone and omeprazole and I'm still not keeping sweet FA in. Not even the meds tbh!
Been bedridden for months it seems, everything triggering the pukes.
I've been given those special meal replacement shakes but I'm not even able to keep them in.

Baby however is massive, 99th percentile but I'm just so ... fed up.

Sending support to anyone who needs it.
This is my last pregnancy and I've had hg with 3 out of 4 pregnancies, so anyone else in this situation, especially those first rodeos, you have my sympathy!

Some days I've puked over 100 times, others about 20, others just 6 or so, but I'm just sick of feeling sick, no matter how much I get up or little, the feeling of that overwhelming nausea is just a constant.
I know I shouldn't moan, healthy baby etc but I'm really low today, I just want drink some bloody water 😩

LucindaE · 26/07/2023 21:07

Lwrneagain Welcome. Sorry you are suffering so badly. You are very brave to go for it three times. That sounds awful, and that even steroids haven't worked. I only hope those 100 vomits are counted the way so many medics count them - as each heave a vomit, rather than individual sessions!

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Lwrenagain · 26/07/2023 21:24

@LucindaE thank you so much! X

It's strange because one pregnancy was I felt so well but the others have just been ridiculous 🙈
Also, do they count eat session as one?? Omg I've been counting the heaving!

Can I ask if anyone is concerned about their teeth?
After my second some of my teeth completely crumbled at the back, but this time they seem a bit stronger, (less bleeding etc) I'm just wondering if anyones teeth seemed OK, then did them dirty once baby was out?
I know it's such a silly thing to worry about when growing a baby, but I have always taken such care of my toofs, seems quite a shame to lose some when I'm unsuspecting of it!

Thanks for these threads, it's so nice to talk to others without them thinking hg is just being a drama queen.

I hope everyone has lovely supportive networks looking out for them! X

Callmemummynotmaaa · 27/07/2023 05:48

Hi all, joining if that’s ok? Due # 3 (hopefully) in early feb. It’s not my first rodeo with HG but struggling.

Tried all the meds with my daughter (born 2019) but all barely worked and/or made me drowsy or feel drunk, and unable to work so v hesitant to try them again.

Currently vomiting (counted wrong as each episode I have to stop run and vom) 10 ish times a day - which is a huge reduction from DD1 but feeling grim. The particular delight is waking from sleep to be sick!!

Have lost a stone already (know it doesn’t impact baby but I look gaunt and hate being told by others I look great when I feel horrendous). V relieved that this time I’m keeping down water/ice and some beige food at times but UGH I’d forgotten how bad it can be. I was really lucky with DD2 and wasn’t as sick and am stupidly and selfishly gutted that I have to survive this again.

Currently at the stage of thinking: wtf have I done to our lives and why. Much wanted and fought for baby (2 losses this year ttc) but I really wish it wasn’t such hard work.

Callmemummynotmaaa · 27/07/2023 05:55

@Lwrenagain Prior to bump (there is simply no way I could manage a dentist now!) I had started getting my teeth sorted after previous pregnancies. My enamel is stripped but using sensodyne made a BIG difference to sensitivity. And my local dentist (one I pay for as NHS doesn’t exist) had said getting them cleaned fairly regularly should have meant no further deterioration.

This pregnancy so far I can use a kids toothbrush and tasteless paste but in previous I couldn’t even rinse my teeth with water! I didn’t go for ages as I was terrified about what they’d say about damage but actually they were lovely and sensitive and understanding.

LucindaE · 27/07/2023 18:34

CallmemummynotmaaaWelcome. I am sorry to hear of your losses, and that you are suffering badly this time. Lwrenagain is right about medics counting individual heaves as 'vomits': I put that badly, but was hoping that she hadn't suffered from 100 sessions! They do have Xonvea now, which has only been about for a couple of years, but a lot of surgeries seem to be blacklisting it, though it was designed specially for pregnancy - I suppose due to expense, which is dismal. It is certainly worth asking if they can recommend anything that would help more this time, and there is some evidence that the earlier one is treated, the more one is likely to escape the severest form. Have you got help from friends and or family in taking care of LO? GA for Lwrenagain.
Lwrenagain I put that badly, as above - I meant I hoped you weren't suffering so badly that you were having 100 sessions. I have heard on here that they can put some protective covering on your teeth, but you are certainly not going to want to do that now. Rinsing with water after vomits is something I am sure you do already. Eveyrone is very supportive on here.

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LucindaE · 28/07/2023 17:08

Waves to all.

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LucindaE · 28/07/2023 17:13

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alpinia · 28/07/2023 19:34

Hello all, I'm back again and looking for some advice from you brave repeat customers! I'm debating trying out our last embryo- our child is so sweet, I love being a mum and I'd love to do the newborn days again. But I was so ill last time, and I had the 'benefit' of it being during covid time so I could cover a lot while WFH. And I didn't have a toddler. It really fills me with fear. I already know the HG is likely to be back, but did you find the coping better? Did you lose less weight? Last time I finished the pregnancy over 1st lighter than I started... The medicines more effective etc? Because you already knew what it'd be like? Hope you are all doing well anyway!

LucindaE · 29/07/2023 18:48

alpinia Welcome back with plans for ttc. I didn't go for it again myself, which I regret. I do know from these threads that sufferers swear by pre-emptive meds and a good care plan for LO so that you can rest as much as possible. I hope some veterans will soon be on to advise. There is the new-ish drug Xonvea, designed specially for pregnancy, which has helped a number on here, but the annoying thing is, I suppose due ot expense, some surgeries are 'blacklisting' it, which seems really unfair.

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kingfisher657 · 29/07/2023 20:07

My new drug regimen (cyclizine+prochlorperazine+vitamin B6 supplement) is usually working pretty well, but this evening I had 2 episodes of vomiting (didn't even try to count the heaves, it was a lot, 2yo literally at my shoulder narrating...)

The first episode was 26 minutes after taking medication - I was really trying to make it to 30 mins as by then you're supposed to have absorbed them - but I can't remember where I heard that number and maybe it is wrong? I'm assuming I shouldn't take another dose for 8 hours as usual but I'm really hoping I absorbed most/all of it or I may be in for a very rough night.