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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 17/07/2023 19:34

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
//sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
//www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
//cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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kingfisher657 · 29/07/2023 20:12

Oh and I found a list of medications online from my NHS trust and it says Xonvea is blacklisted because: "Not recommended for prescribing in primary or secondary care based on limited evidence and safety data." This seems bizarre as it's been licensed nationally and used in other countries for years? I also thought it had more research to support its use in pregnancy than the usual anti emetics...

Lwrenagain · 30/07/2023 12:17

alpinia · 28/07/2023 19:34

Hello all, I'm back again and looking for some advice from you brave repeat customers! I'm debating trying out our last embryo- our child is so sweet, I love being a mum and I'd love to do the newborn days again. But I was so ill last time, and I had the 'benefit' of it being during covid time so I could cover a lot while WFH. And I didn't have a toddler. It really fills me with fear. I already know the HG is likely to be back, but did you find the coping better? Did you lose less weight? Last time I finished the pregnancy over 1st lighter than I started... The medicines more effective etc? Because you already knew what it'd be like? Hope you are all doing well anyway!

Hello, I'm a repeat HG customer!
I have had to really prepare this time, it's something you can't really gauge the severity of how it might be.
But prior to TTC I'd take all the vitamins and minerals you can for as long as you can. And go discuss a plan with GP, can you start on omeprazole and cyclizine as soon as possible, then if that fails, which is likely depending on the level HG wants to kick your ass at, can you have ondansetron, ideally if you can go into hosptial for it to be administered IV and stay until the wafers or meds can stay down, then failing that, the prednisolone also. I'm 34 weeks and still taking all 4 meds, I'm still vomiting but I'm hydrated enough to wee still. That's sign for hosptial, if I'm not weeing, I need the drip.
DP has reduced his work at hours and it's been a crap time for the kids if I'm honest, but they're still coming to my pit where I lay like cleopatra simply because movement/tv/the smell of little things like food or laundry make me so sick I just stay away. They come snuggle me and I see them loads, I just can't do outings with them, so we've got days out planned for when "mummy's better". Easier with my eldest because he just loves gossip and chatting my head off and showing me places were going to eat etc when I'm better.
HG has buggered 3 of my pregnancies but one was amazing, one was really quite scary it was so awful, and they were both sons, born 14 months apart, so I've no idea how I was so lucky. (My youngest was a total shock and I was devastated at the thought of missing dc2 early years to be in hosptial, but I was absolutely fine!) So it really is hit and miss with HG.
I'm crossing everything for you that you get what we called a "unicorn" pregancy because it was so unexpected.
I would never have tried for another pregnancy but I fell pregnant, on the pill actually, and had a loss (ectopic) and since that loss I just struggled with grief that DP and I figured, one last shot, it was unlikely because I'm older, we'd had a long time trying to get pregnant with dc2, (years) and with loss of my tube etc, we just thought it wouldn't happen.
We had sex the once and a within a week or so I felt sick, it was still before my period was due but I took a test and we got a very faint line.
So the GP knowing how shit the HG is started me on the big guns immediately, just so I wasn't spending weeks in and out of hosptial. Like I say, I'm still sick and the early days it was really awful, but I've a few weeks left and my boys are delighted to be having a new sibling, a girl also! But I will say that the whole hg depending on your baby's sex is balls, you get HG, you get hg sadly xx

LashesZ · 30/07/2023 19:22

Hi all, hoping it's ok I join.
I'm 9 weeks with my second. My first HG kicked in at 6 weeks and it was vomiting that actually ended up breaking my waters in the endHmm
Have felt nauseous for 3 weeks now but the past 3 days the vomiting has started and sadly getting worse. I feel so guilty for DH picking up the slack and my poor 5 year old witnessing it. She keeps offering to get me a sick bowl, bless her.
I really hoped it would be different this time, I'm gutted.

LucindaE · 30/07/2023 19:36

LashesZ Welcome. Sorry that you are suffering badly so early. Do get meds asap. Which ones helped last time, if any? Can DH manage to look after you for a fair bit? Sufferers on here with LO's say that they soon seem to forget the time of comparative neglect, which is good, and a sibling is a priceless gift.
Kingfisher That is so extradordinary about Xonvea! It makes no sense at all. It is as if beauraucratic rules are being imposed even if they don't apply. Sorry to hear about the loss of meds. I have heard that the digestion is slowed down by sickness, so perhaps it would have taken longer to absorb the meds anyway. I do hope that you didn't have too bad a night.
Laurenagain Great advice for alpenia.

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LucindaE · 30/07/2023 19:38

Sorry, my head is not working today; I had a migraine yesterday. That was kingfisher657 and Lwrenagain.

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Lwrenagain · 30/07/2023 19:47

@LucindaE oh no, they're so awful! How are you today? X

LucindaE · 30/07/2023 20:24

Lwrenagain Thanks for asking: they're nothing like as bad as they used to be, thank goodness; they do leave me muddle headed the next day, though.

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LucindaE · 31/07/2023 20:38

Waves to everyone...

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Rohise · 01/08/2023 20:35

Hello, just wondering how’s everyone doing?

im nearly 23 weeks this week. Anatomy scan showed good organs so for those worrying about the effect of ondansetron its looking good.

i have tried going without ondansetron, managed three days only once a day, then tried it totally without. However, sickness was back up so i just went back to twice a day (my usual dose).
im back to work so ill try reducing doses again after my 24week during my holiday/leave. but work has been really understanding, i can take a lot of breaks.
still taking lactulose daily to keep my regular movements.

Just wondering how was it like for previous hg sufferers here, until when did you have to take ondansetron and lactulose?
i know i need these medications still, and it has helped me greatly keep food down and gain some weight (finally). But im keen to not take them if i really could and really enjoy my pregnancy.

thanks

LucindaE · 01/08/2023 20:47

rohise Glad to hear that Ondansetron and Lactulose is helping you get by. Very brave of you to battle on at work. I am glad they are understanding. I hope those with experience of taking Ondansetron can advise you better. A large number of sufferers on here have been on it until the end of their pregnancies. Obviously, nobody likes to take more drugs than they have to in pregnancy, even though the results of researches show that the risk factor is tiny - but if the choice is that or the very real risks of severe dehydration, then doctors advise to keep taking the meds.

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LucindaE · 01/08/2023 20:48

Rohise Sorry, not rohise - what's the matter with me recently? I meant to add that at 23 weeks you may well still see a natural improvement anyway.

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Lwrenagain · 01/08/2023 21:46

@LucindaE How's your head today pal? X

@Rohise hi! Sorry to see you're still suffering, glad the ondansetron is helping! Have you tried adding cyclizine in between times you're taking it? It may help with nausea for being back at work, I'm glad that your employer is understanding!
I need the ondansetron unfortunately until the end and after about 31 weeks I don't need to take lactose with it, it's like my body is used to it, but you'll know if thats the case by the way your body feels.
It's so bizarre HG, it can magic away for some around 16 weeks or it can linger a bit after baby is born (I've found personally that it's more my body's almost in a routine of feeling sick, so it's not pregancy as such, just waiting for the effects to go away.)
If you get heartburn as baby grows please ask for ompeprazole because heartburn can trigger the sickness, best prevent it before having to cure it again, if you get me? I do hope it calms down for you! It really is a crap way to spend 9 months 💐

I washed my hair for the first time in about 6 weeks earlier and brushed it, I've just been too sick to deal with it for so long, it feels a massive achievement and even better, doesn't stink 😂

Rohise · 02/08/2023 13:31

@LucindaE and @Lwrenagain
thank you for your messages.

Yes i tried cyclizine but it caused me bad palpitations like my heart was going to explode.

i just need to soldier on. Again, my baby is healthy so im just happy.

LucindaE · 02/08/2023 21:40

Lwrenagain Great advice for Rohise. Thank you, I haven't the excuse of a bad head for my typing errors atm! I hope you are coping OK today.

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Mamash · 03/08/2023 02:46

Hello everyone,
It's been a while. Updates on how I'm doing:
Tried to combine cyclizine with xonvea as recommended by a gynecologist but it didn't work as I was retching all day so I've just continued with xonvea and that has worked well.
I am a lot better now and I believe the worst is over at 19 weeks+
I've been able to return to work (although still working half days) after 12 weeks of being off sick. I've chosen to work from 11am to 3pm so that I don't have to get out of bed early because of nausea. My GP also recommended I work from home indefinitely as my commute to work takes an hour on the motorway; I still feel light headed from time to time so it's not advisable that I drive for an hour each way everyday.
My plan is to try and gradually wean myself off xonvea by reducing the dosage this weekend; please wish me luck 🫂. I'll let you know how it goes... All the best to everyone on this thread; We are strong and awesome women!

LucindaE · 04/08/2023 20:42

Mamash I don't know what happened to the reply I gave yesterday; it's vanished into cyber space, so I'll retype it. Thanks for the update. It's good to hear that things are gettng better and I am glad the doctor advised against that long commute. I admire your determination to wean off Xovea at 19 weeks - but is it necessary to do it so quickly as over one weekend? Could you do it more gradually, seeing how it goes?

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LucindaE · 05/08/2023 18:27

I hope everyone is coping today.

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InvisibleDreamer · 05/08/2023 19:28

I have a stomach bug on top of HG. Am so weak now. Was supposed to be going on a spa break today instead am spending weekend in bed 😭.

Lwrenagain · 06/08/2023 12:03

Hi friends x

@InvisibleDreamer I'm really sorry x
I had norovirus a few months ago and honestly was convinced I might finally die from sickness, luckily it was only 3 and a half days, if you can suck ice cubes every hour or so that'll potentially keep up some hydration, I know they're reluctant to put you in hisptial with something that's catching.

I have covid atm, (presume it's covid, that or flu) and its kicking my arse. I'm really not a happy bunny with it, but hey, what's one more way to feel shite when you've got Hg!

I've been able to sip some of the ensure shakes, the tiny high cal milkshake things they give the elderly usually, some can stay in, others can't, but what is wild with that is, I can't even taste a difference 😂

Sending love and thanks for checking in @LucindaE you're a wee doll 😘

LucindaE · 06/08/2023 17:41

InvisibleDreamer Really sorry to hear of you getting a violent stomach bug. I do hope it goes quickly. I can't improve on Lwrenagain's advice, especially about the ice cubes. Lwrenagain Oh dear, I do hope it is a cold rather than Covid as Covid can be so ennervating. Great advice for InvisibleDreamer.

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LucindaE · 07/08/2023 19:56

At least it isn't as hot it is on the continent (famous last words?) Mind you, not everyone on this thread is in the UK...

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LucindaE · 08/08/2023 21:14

I hope that everyone is doing as well as possible today.

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Mamash · 09/08/2023 05:08

@LucindaE thanks for your reply...
I haven't weaned myself off xonvea as I took the whooping cough vaccination on Friday and so thought not to have too much going on in my body. Since the weekend, I've had bouts of nausea again which has scared me so I'm sticking to xonvea for now 🙈🙂

All in all, I'm in a better position, I have better energy levels, I'm able to cook some of the food that I eat and my pregnancy is progressing nicely 👌🏾💕

Thanks so much for the support

LucindaE · 09/08/2023 17:47

Mamash That's very sensible.
Lwrenagain Sorry, I forgot to thank you for your kind words.

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LucindaE · 10/08/2023 21:23

Waves to all.

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