Husbands employer asking for my matb1 form

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Is this normal?
He just wants his 2 weeks paternity leave, I thought the matb1 was just for my employer, I've never heard of it being needed for paternity leave.

It is odd that a woman needs proof to get her maternity leave/pay and they just accept a man's word for it. I've never thought of it before but actually that seems wrong, for a start off it is pretty obvious a woman is pregnant but not at all obvious with the man.

You don’t see that as personal information? Wow.
Glad that the law agrees with me on this one.

A woman's maternity leave and pay will last longer than Statutory paternity leave/pay so that's why her employer needs the MatB1 as proof of pregnancy rather than the other parent who will be off for 2 weeks

Can still be hundreds of pounds which isn't insignificant to a small business.

If you don’t think any of that is personal information, what exactly do you think is personal information?

@ancientgran lots of companies only pay statutory paternity pay and can claim most of it back so they aren't hugely out of pocket

Exactly @EcafTnuc can’t believe some people have so little sense of protecting their privacy. Which is totally fine but don’t act like it’s something ridiculous when others are more concerned about it. Plus it’s against the law but of course they don’t mention that.

This sounds very odd? My partner's employer never asked for anything like that from me but he is on very good terms with his boss

I'd be tempted to "pop in" while heavily pregnant to drop his lunch off and point at your belly saying "is this proof enough, or do you need to feel the baby kicking"

Obviously very tongue in cheek but it's as ridiculous as them asking to see your Mat1B. The link a PP mentioned says what a man needs to do to claim paternity leave - no employer has the right to ask for anything more.

OP - your DH's employer was only "kind" when he hurt himself at work because he hurt himself at work and they feared he'd sue them or they'd get in trouble with the HSE.

Put the above link in an email to his manager and get him to complete the SC3 and tell them you're refusing to provide the Mat1B.

@LaBellina @EcafTnuc I was referring more to where the PP had said about private medical information. I made a typing error but the only private medical information on there is the week the baby is due? I struggle to see why this is an issue with people. Quite what they expect their partners employer to do with the name of their midwife Christ only knows.
IMO employers should be entitled to ask for it. By the sounds of it there appears to be nothing stopping men from applying for paternity leave when they aren't actually expecting a baby, or is there other evidence an employer can ask for?
My DH employer in both of my pregnancies has never asked for a copy of mine but on both occasions I've emailed him a scanned copy before handing mine in just in case. They would know my name anyway, they obviously have my address anyway as it's the same as DH address. My DOB I'm not bothered about people knowing. Due week and midwife name I can't see why people want to keep it a secret. NI number I can understand but it's not being given to a random man on the street is it, and that could probably be covered over as they wouldn't need to know that anyway.

I think taxpayers need protection as well, should we really just hand anyone £300 on their sayso?

My midwife advised me to take a copy of my matb1 and give to partner for his workplace

My husband's employer do not have my name, why would they? They know my first name, that's all the personal information they're getting on me. My colleagues don't know DH's surname, many have assumed that it's the same as mine.

It is pretty crap of midwives to suggest a copy is offered, and even more crap for local government to ask for information they're not entitled to. These actions from perceived authority figures only reinforce the position that it's okay for employers to ask for personal information of a woman with zero connection to them.

@Dundonian loads and loads of companies don't do sickness absence , other than statutory
More don't do it than do, mumsnet is not in real world

@arecklessmanor mine know mine As we have to fill in next of kin and emergency contact etc, so not at all unusual to have partners: husbands name

@arecklessmanor because not only am I his next of kin like @worriedatthistime he is normal and talks about his family and life to people he works with. I'd find it really strange if they didn't know my name

@ancientgran I don't get it. Women have to send evidence of the pregnancy in, why on earth don't men have to.

What personal info? All it has on is your name, DOB, address, NI number and due date

that’s plenty of personal information!! Plenty of information that many people would feel uncomfortable about giving to strangers.

Men on paternity leave tend to get less than their usual wages. Do you really think they'd lie to get 2 weeks off at shit pay?

SSP is almost £100 a week and you can claim it for 28 weeks so almost £2,800 which is a hell of a lot for a company that is struggling. You also accrue holiday pay so someone can come back from 28 weeks sickness and take the almost 3 weeks that have accrued on full pay.

It isn't alot to live on but it is alot for an employer to pay. I've worked for employers who only do SSP and employers who do full pay and I was grateful for full pay. I think it is a balancing act with the needs of the employee and the employer.

My DH employer would have my name and address anyway as we live together. The NI number isn't being given to a random man on the street and could probably be hidden anyway. And quite what people are going do with knowing when my due date is maybe you could enlighten me with how that could be misused?
If you had RTFT you'd see I'd already addressed this.

Yes. I've run payrolls and you'd be surprised. I've even had the partner complain to me and ask me not to pay their partner as he spent the two weeks out with his mates and did nothing to help her. Obviously there was nothing I could do about it and he had to be paid.

Is it zero connection? If a man wants his company to pay him for leave due to a woman having his baby, is it not reasonable for them to know the woman’s name since he’s claiming leave for her baby? If they are sufficiently in a relationship that he’s doing this, they should know. Pretty sure my work have an emergency contact as well, obviously I’ve put my husband.

Fine, but I don’t think you should expect a company to give your husband/partner leave on no evidence. Given a man’s role in birth, the woman’s basic details is the only evidence available to apply for this.

Oh I've always scanned mine in and emailed it to my husband for work. Just assumed he needed it! I didn't realise that wasn't necessary.