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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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ajb22 · 21/04/2022 17:39

Hey I've been given metoclopramide by my docs? Has anyone tried before and does it work well w stopping sickness?

BalletN · 21/04/2022 18:36

@ajb22 Thanks. The gp changed my meds yesterday. I was just trying one at a time but hoping that a combination will work better. Last summer I was sick for weeks and then miscarried suddenly at 10 weeks so the whole sickness being a good thing doesn't reassure me! Hoping this time it'll be worth it though.
I tried metaclopromide in a previous pregnancy and it worked for me but they wouldn't let me stay on it long term.

@ohCARP I'm a teacher too and during my first pregnancy, I had a few attempts at returning to work. Eventually the gp gave me a fit note so I just worked afternoons. I don't know if that would be an option for you.

ohCARP · 21/04/2022 19:28

@ChloeHel I think we're having mirror HG experiences! A lot of what you say is similar to how I've been feeling and vice versa! If you're signed off for another 4 weeks you must be extremely unwell and it's not up to you to feel bad about it. Would they prefer you vomited all over someone's prescription?

I'm glad you had a nice time with family.

@Melleebacca I saw my dad and I think having someone look after me as a guest felt easier than being looked after in my own home. You sort of expect to be looked after when visiting family don't you? So I didn't feel like I had to do anything which weirdly made me able to do stuff. I also wore make up! My daughter was excited. She likes stealing my make up brushes haha

@ajb22 welcome to the club and congratulations. Sorry you've had to join but you will get lots of support here. I usually only read and don't reply on Mumsnet but this thread has really helped me. I hope we can help you too. I'm sorry to hear about your miscarriage.

@nee22 thank you. Work was actually a lot better than I thought it would be. I'm only 3 days so with the bank holiday and INSET I only had students for one of those days so it didn't feel too bad. I have the midwife soon so I will chase the referral. Im glad to hear they were useful for you. I feel like postnatal depression and anxiety are considered to be a thing but when you're pregnant you're just left to suffer because "who can be depressed when they're expecting a baby?" Blah blah blah

I had awful headaches last time and this time I'm really congested. Sterimar saline spray really helped when I had a sinus infection so that might help? If not take paracetamol. I didn't take any when I was pregnant with my daughter. This time I've been so unwell I've lost count of how much I've had 😬

@BalletN welcome and congratulations. I'm glad your scan was reassuring and that baby is doing well. Don't fall into the trap of "at least baby is ok" - you deserve to be ok too! I'm so sorry to hear about your miscarriage too. That must have been very hard after being told sickness is a good sign.

It's good to know half days are an option. Because I'm at an SEN school we have high staff ratios and my team have been amazing. They won't let me do anything they consider risky and there's one student they won't let me deal with at all due to behaviour struggles so for now I feel ok. It actually felt good to go into work and feel productive again. I have so much assessment to do though I think that might finish me off.

Waves to @LucindaE and everyone else 😊

Melleebacca · 21/04/2022 19:38

@BalletN good luck with the new combo. I did cyclizine and ondansetron this time around and the combo really helped.

@ChloeHel Im fortunate it’s school holidays, so the kids and I can just go at our own pace while Hubby is gone. Still not easy. I was awake for 3 hours in the night anxious over everything, but the kids have been excellent so far.
Good luck with your scan. I only tend to feel movements at around 16wks, and I don’t get a bump until late second trimester, so remember everything is still normal. I feel huge now, even though at work last week some students didn’t even know I was pregnant (they’re too used to overweight teachers).

@nee22 Im just having calcium powder, it works almost instantly. My acid levels were directly related to either pain meds or phlegm. I barely even noticed acid yesterday, so definitely making some improvements.

@ajb22 Its a common thread to be worried about the medications effect on baby, so I just jumped to the conclusion that you might be worried! Please remember that the damage from HG sickness is worse than the damage from the meds. So don’t suffer if you don’t need to!

34wks here today. I can almost see the pink castle in the distance…

Melleebacca · 21/04/2022 19:47

@ohCARP cross posted!
I am so looking forward to ignoring the kids and just lying on the sofa at my dads place tomorrow. We’ve just reduced the trip from 2 nights down to 1. A lot of driving, but hopefully worth it for the kids to see their grandparents for the first time in months.

I was diagnosed with ante-natal depression with my second daughter. Mostly due to the HG. It was incredibly hard knowing what I had to go through, while also missing out on so much of my eldest girls life at the same time. I didn’t take meds for the depression, but I was given fortnightly checkups to keep an eye on my mental state. I improved once I knew it was another girl (my brother and I have a terrible relationship, so I was worried about that being repeated). Then when she was born, I was removed from treatment after one postnatal treatment because I improve so fast mentally and physically once I can eat again.
This time around, I escaped it by knowing and watching the girls thrive together even though I was sick.

alpinia · 21/04/2022 20:00

Hello Everyone, I'm sorry for those of you still suffering, it's such a horrendous time.

But I wanted to come back a month after the birth of my son with some positivity: for me it really was true that by the morning after the birth all the vomiting and nausea was gone and my appetite was back. Plus all the associated problems like anemia and pelvic pain have slowly cleared up, and my big worry about not being able to breastfeed and my baby being small and unhealthy proved unfounded.

I went in to labour early and ended with a csection after things didn't progress for several days and I can honestly say the birth and recovery was still better than the pregnancy.

There is hope and it will be over eventually, though those of you repeating the experience have my full admiration-I think I'm one and done😋I'll try to keep an eye on these threads in case I can offer any advice and support in the future.

ajb22 · 21/04/2022 20:36

@BalletN

@ajb22 Thanks. The gp changed my meds yesterday. I was just trying one at a time but hoping that a combination will work better. Last summer I was sick for weeks and then miscarried suddenly at 10 weeks so the whole sickness being a good thing doesn't reassure me! Hoping this time it'll be worth it though. I tried metaclopromide in a previous pregnancy and it worked for me but they wouldn't let me stay on it long term.

@ohCARP I'm a teacher too and during my first pregnancy, I had a few attempts at returning to work. Eventually the gp gave me a fit note so I just worked afternoons. I don't know if that would be an option for you.

Oh hun I am so sorry for your lossDaffodil I understand must be such a worry for you! Least you got new medication to try and hopefully it'll help, it's just so rubbish being stuck feeling this way isn't it. Sending you all the positive vibes that hopefully by end of first trimester you'll be feeling a little better and that your new medication helps x
ajb22 · 21/04/2022 20:42

I've had a look online about metoclopramide and how should only be taken for a short time, but my doctor has given me 56 tablets!? I feel like that's not right at all? Like is that not too many?

My doctor has requested a urine sample too to check my ketosticks I think she said? I'm really hoping it comes back ok otherwise I'll be in the hospital tomorrow for a drip. I know that's a good thing and will keep me hydrated for the baby and I have to do what I need to but I just feel so depressed and worn out I guess.

LucindaE · 21/04/2022 22:16

Welcome to ajb22 and to BalletN. ajb22 You have already had great advice. Sorry you are suffering. Apropos the Metaclopramide, I think some doctors are more wary of it than others. You only have to worry about takiing it only for a short time in case you develop twitchiness, in which case you should come off it at once as not good for the mother (it doesn't seem to affect the baby). I am sorry for your loss and that you are suffering badly. If the metaclopramide doesn't help, don't hesitate to ask for something else again. Here is my normal spiel, which I hope helps. Sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange, 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.
BalletN You have already had great advice, and as veteran you don't need my normal spiel about ice lollies, flat full sugar coke and the juice of tinned frutit, kesostix and ant acids. I am glad you are on Omprazole as well as the other meds. I am sorry for your losses. It's good that the scan went well. The chances are on your side this time. Did things get easier later on for you last time?
FateHasRedesignedMost Oh dear, I see I missed a bit of your last post and made a jolly remark about being glad that things weren't too bad when in fact, the sickness had eased a bit but theSPD and sciatica were awful. Sorry about that".
alpinia Thank you so much for your encouraging message. It will be lovely having you calling in to help out. That will be very much appreciated.
ChloeHelSorry about headaches. That's so intriguing about feeling so much better away from home.
nee22 Some find they get migraine type headaches from the hormones,quite apart from any dehydration headaches. They can be hard to tell apart and are really miserable.
Melleebaca I am sorry you've got some nasty bug. I hope you can be looked after at your parents ' as soon as possible.
Apologies to anyone I've rudely overlooked.

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PopGoesBang · 22/04/2022 15:32

Dd had a sickness bug last night. That really tested me - was very grateful for Dp who did the majority of the clean up duty.
Thankfully she seemed to have a rough couple of hours and then slept it off, she's been ok today.

Sorry to see so many are suffering and having to do the med juggle with the gps, I hope they get it sorted for you and you start to feel some relief.

ajb22 · 22/04/2022 15:46

So so so fed up. metoclopramide has done absolutely nothing and where I've been dehydrated I'm so constipated and my doctors just doesn't answer any calls!

So pleased to nearly be at end of my first trimester and praying some relief from all these problems comes because I'm just so fed up with it all .

ChloeHel · 22/04/2022 18:14

@ajb22 it can take a few days to have any affect, don’t give up just yet! But if over the weekend there is still no change then onto the next!!

Private scan went well :) baby is all ok! I was convinced we were having a little boy as this pregnancy has been so much different to my first with DD, well turns out it’s another girl! It’s true what they say about those girl hormones haha.

LucindaE · 22/04/2022 21:02

ChloeHel Great advice for ajb22. Congratulations on scan, and your DD number two.
ajb22 Constipation is awful. Some are helped by those suppositories from the chemists; though they use them in hospitals, some pharmacists are releuctant to give them to pregnant women, but if someone else could get them for you., Laculose is very good for constipation. Again, that can be bought over the counter, and is often prescribed for pregnant women, particularly on here, where Ondansetron often causes tied up bowels, but
just in case the pharmacist is super careful, it might be an idea for someone else to get it.
PopGoesBang I'm glad OH dealt with that, and she's better today.
Waves to all. I meant to say how impressed I was with how helpful everyone is and has been to each o ther on this thread.

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ohCARP · 23/04/2022 13:03

@PopGoesBang sickness bug sounds like hell! I'm glad it was over relatively quickly.

@ajb22 if you're in England you can call NHS111 and they can book you an emergency appointment with your GP. I've had to do this a few times because my doctors never answer the phone either

@ChloeHel congratulations on your second baby girl 🥰 glad the scan went well.

ajb22 · 23/04/2022 14:52

Thank you for all the advice! Luckily I got some stuff from doctor ! I did the 111 route so thank you so much to the person who suggest that on here! (Sorry I'm still working out how to tag ppl!)

Do you guys know how long metoclopramide takes to get working? If anything rn it makes me feel more sick I just don't understand what is going on . So fed up and tired.

BalletN · 23/04/2022 18:55

@ChloeHel congratulations on your scan.

@Melleebacca You are so close now!

@LucindaE After 20 weeks I got some sickness free time in the afternoons so clinging on for that.

Thanks everyone for welcoming me.

LucindaE · 23/04/2022 19:13

ajb22 That's good news, anyway.
BalletN Hopefully relief will come this time round then or earlier.

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Melleebacca · 23/04/2022 19:24

@BalletN Thank you! I’m counting down the days. If he goes overdue, I might have a meltdown.

@ajb22 The meds should work by about 3 days. Some need to build up in your system to be effective, but if things haven’t changed after 3 days, or have gotten worse, please get stronger ones.
Also, I managed to get relief from constipation from pulpy orange juice and lactulose this time around. Although I’m constipated again now because I’m visiting my dad, and my system is out of whack.

@ChloeHel Congrats on the second daughter! I hope they have the best little relationship - my two are best friends 95% of the time. I have found that I react more to estrogen than testosterone, but this pregnancy has still had challenges despite the vomiting easing a little earlier.

@alpinia Congrats on making it to the pink castle! I’m so glad to hear you’re feeling better!

LucindaE · 24/04/2022 20:55

Melleebacca Counting down the days until you arrive in the Pink Castle with baby...

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LucindaE · 24/04/2022 20:56

That's me, I mean. But while cheering you on, we'll all so miss you on this thread.

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ajb22 · 24/04/2022 22:25

Hey guys, hope everyone is coping and doing okay!

Today I finally had a good day and first time in 3 weeks was able to have a clean around the house! I honestly couldn't believe this and haven't felt this good in so long I can't believe it.. still had to take a nap during the day had a moment where I felt quite sick! But still so good compared to how I've been

I've been taking metoclopramide so I think it must be working? But there's that thought in my head like maybe I'll start feeling better from now on but also really scared it's just one good day and I'll go back to feeling awful everyday again. I'm 10 weeks on Tuesday so the end of first trimester is near so that's another positive for me

Sorry to rant just only place I can get these feelings out and you guys understand what im saying!

BalletN · 25/04/2022 18:34

@ajb22 I'm so glad you had a good day and the metaclopromide is starting to kick in. Take care not to overdo it on your good days or you'll pay for it later! (speaking from experience!!)

ajb22 · 25/04/2022 18:38

BalletN · 25/04/2022 18:34

@ajb22 I'm so glad you had a good day and the metaclopromide is starting to kick in. Take care not to overdo it on your good days or you'll pay for it later! (speaking from experience!!)

Thank you so much for your reply !
Yes totally paying for it today, luckily tablets have stopped me being sick but I have felt so poorly n not really been able to move from my bed

Hope your all doing ok xx

LucindaE · 25/04/2022 18:56

ajb22 I am sorry to hear that you feel bad after that good day. Don't despair, though, a good day is often the sign of many more to come. There is a hug temptation to overdo it, as BalletN says.

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Melleebacca · 25/04/2022 19:13

@ajb22 Thats totally normal! Please take it slow. I started having some improvements around 10wks this time around. Still was sick and vomiting, but felt a bit better, so it’s a good sign. Because it was so much earlier than with previous pregnancies, I decided it was random chance and not better management, so kept up the same routine until I got to about 3/4 days vomit free.
Mentally, I much prefer taking longer to recover vs going backwards at all, especially when it comes to vomiting.

@LucindaE Thanks Lucinda! I’m really hoping he makes an appearance in May, so I’m down to only about a month away. Braxton Hicks are full on at the moment, but I’m pretty sure that’s just because Hubby is away and I’m doing too much.

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