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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 26/03/2022 18:45

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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LucindaE · 20/08/2022 19:58

Elle1709 Welcome. I hope someone on here may have had that experience. Maybe Weathergirl1 as she will be having her second C section soon? Can the consultant or one of the team advise about whether you're allowed to take the meds in the hours before the operation?
ohCARP Car accident? ! Glad you're both OK.
Weathergirl1 Let's hope baby delays for a grand entrance.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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ohCARP · 20/08/2022 20:51

@LucindaE car accident was with my first daughter. I flipped my car into a field after hitting black ice. They were going to make me wait a week for my 20 week scan to see if baby was ok but I insisted and eventually they called someone to come and scan me. Baby was completely oblivious!

ohCARP · 20/08/2022 20:54

@Elle1709 I don't know much but I can say that my friend had an EMCS at Christmas after a 2 hour labour where they discovered baby was breech (he was a month early). She had horrible Hyperemesis until the end and in no way fasted before the operation and definitely not for the required 6 hours because she didn't have time as he made such a qui Ck entrance. It's worth speaking to your midwife about it.

I know 6 hours is recommended but plenty of women must have them after eating in emergency situations, surely?

Elle1709 · 21/08/2022 07:35

@LucindaE @ohCARP Thanks for your advice, I will have a chat to my midwife and the consultant and see what they suggest. I'm sure someone will have been through a similar situation, so fingers crossed they have some good advice, I don't fancy vomiting before and during a c section! 🙈

Weathergirl1 · 21/08/2022 12:56

@Elle1709 afraid no advice from me as I didn't have issues with nausea and vomiting at all with my pregnancy! So will probably have to ask a similar question myself soon - I'm a few weeks further on than you. They did give me ranitidine before the ELCS last time to reduce stomach acid (which they can't do now, so I think they give omeprazole instead from what I've gathered) so you do take drugs orally before the operation. I was also able to drink a sports drink once we got to hospital and discovered I wasn't first on the afternoon list (as I was struggling with feeling low on blood sugar). Will report back if I hear anything before you do 👍

Waredrobe · 21/08/2022 12:58

Anyone else ever felt like they have panic attacks with other HG pregnancies?

i had an awful pregnancy at the start of the year, although I have other children and had HG the one at the start of the year has left me more mentally scarred than I knew.

Just full on had a breakdown as I don’t know what I fancy eating crying that I don’t want to end up in hospital. I’m so scared even though it seems under control at the moment. I just keep thinking about not going forward with the pregnancy as I’m so scared. I can’t explain it, a wanted planned pregnancy but I’m so scared.

LucindaE · 21/08/2022 18:29

Elle1709 Good advice from ohCARPand Weathergirl1 - though Weathergirl1 didn't have it last time!
ohCARP I'm glad that wasn't a recent experience - sounds awful.
Waredrobe I think many people do. Sympathies. A good idea to phone Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 for counselling advice. They will have to phone you back, but their advice has helped many on here.

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violetcuriosity · 22/08/2022 19:52

Hi all,

Just wanted to come on here and say thank you so much for this thread. I've been a bit of a silent lurker as, honestly, typing on my phone has been a trigger (as well as pretty much everything else).

I'm now 13+5 with baby number 2, I was only 24 when I had my first DD and now almost 33, omg what a difference those 8 years have made to my resilience 😂. My HG started 6 weeks on the day and is still going strong 😫 although, the last two days I have been sick first thing and then managed to do normal day time activities before being in bed by 7pm. I'm hoping against hope that it calms down by 16 weeks which It did with my daughter but it wasn't this bad.

When people ask me how I am, or what it's like I honestly don't have the vocabulary to describe it. I work with children with ASD and have said so many times that I now relate to the condition so much more due to the sensory sensitivities I've had... smells, tastes, bright colours, certain soundtracks, memories, reels about early pregnancy on insta (?!) some of them are really weird but all triggers for the fatigue, nausea and vomiting. When I'm sick it's nothing compared to the listlessness that constantly plagues me. I've read on the post that people have found it easier when they're not at home, I've found the exact same. I went away to cornwall for a week and felt the best I've felt in weeks, but as soon as we got home it was straight back to business. I really feel like it might be linked to the mental load of 'home', I'm lucky enough to have a supportive partner but it's still non-stop.

Things I've found that have helped-

  • becoming vegetarian
  • green olives
  • plum tomatoes
  • cheese scones
  • McDonald's strawberry milkshake
  • activia strawberry yoghurt
  • toast with Lurpak (baby will have to live in loincloths and be breastfed until they're 18 to cover the costs)
-Greek yoghurt with banana, honey and mixed nuts

Things that made it worse-

  • cyclizine (devil drug for me)
  • meat and fish
  • orange squash
  • juicy fruits
  • sweets
  • chocolate
  • ginger (ANYTHING GINGER)
  • crackers and cheese 🤮

Sorry long, pretty pointless post, just so nice being able to vent and share with people who get it.

LucindaE · 22/08/2022 20:04

violetcuriosity Welcome. Sorry you are suffering again. Did any meds help last time? Or any anti-acid? Thank you for the list of things that helped. You'll know the list of drinks and foods that have helped others which I quote with my normal spiel for first time sufferers. I hope it eases at 16 weeks as it did for you last time.

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violetcuriosity · 22/08/2022 20:13

LucindaE · 22/08/2022 20:04

violetcuriosity Welcome. Sorry you are suffering again. Did any meds help last time? Or any anti-acid? Thank you for the list of things that helped. You'll know the list of drinks and foods that have helped others which I quote with my normal spiel for first time sufferers. I hope it eases at 16 weeks as it did for you last time.

Thank you, nice to join a 'community' for the hell 😂

I haven't actually tried any others, it's really difficult to get a GP appt where I am and looking at my phone has been making me so nauseous so I've just laid here and let it happen 😂😫.

Another 'top tip' I've found is to have a shower immediately after the morning bout of vomiting when your stomach is completely empty, I wasn't doing this before and then couldn't find the energy to do it at all. I mean, my hair is still greasy 99% of the time but at least my pits are fresh!

Elle1709 · 23/08/2022 06:28

@violetcuriosity Hi 👋 sorry you are suffering. Its so difficult to get through, I always wanted more than one baby but this pregnancy has been so rough with the sickness I don't think I could do it again! I agree about the sensory sensitivity - my mobile and TV were a big trigger, and also loud noises and any form of movement. Even my partner tapping his foot made me feel sick.

Does anyone know if its normal for the nausea to get worse in third trimester? I'm coming up 30 weeks and I'm starting to feel like first trimester me again. I'm exhausted, but can't sleep because of the nausea through the night and stomach pain as well, which I think might be related to digestion. I'm finding it hard to even walk without feeling tired, weak and very sick. Its really getting me down, I finally thought at about 22 weeks things were looking up and the cyclizine was really heping. I keep counting down each day, I just want to feel normal again. Sorry for the long rant, my family/friends don't seem to understand just how hard it is to go through as they haven't been through it themselves. Hope everyone is doing well today 😊

SpringChicken06 · 23/08/2022 11:53

Hi,

New on here and read as much as I could for tips/advice. Admitted last week with HG and taking Cyclozine 2x daily and felt like a new person after the admission. Vomiting 1-2x in the morning before taking the Cyclozine which I can cope with compared to the 10x + daily prior.
Work have been amazing and have been flexible with allowing me to come in later mornings/early pm when it gets really bad.
I’ve now been referred to occy health as I work in the NHS and struggling to care for pt’s and do my usual daily tasks, and because they’ve not known a colleague as bad as this.
I’ve also considered a Dr’s note but feel bad for asking/telling work about this. So just wondering if anyone else has experienced this and in what way does it affect your pay?
I still get really bad days but feel like I need to drag myself into work from guilt, and end up feeling even worse for the rest of the day from N/V.

Thank you!

RosieByTheSea · 23/08/2022 17:00

Hello all. A comfort to be with fellow sufferers. I’m 8+4 and suffering terribly. Vomiting only a couple of times a day so far but the nausea is constant and really debilitating and I’m so lightheaded that I’m sofa bound. Have been here before, this is my 4th pregnancy (one ended in miscarriage) and I have 2 little ones who are 6 and 4. They’re finding it unsettling to see me so unwell and I’m curious to know what others have told their older kids about their HG suffering? I’ve told mine I’ve got a sickness bug that won’t last forever. Gosh, it’s tough to get through isn’t it. I’d managed to forget exactly how grim it is. My other half is doing what he can but the house has already descended into total chaos mess. Wishing everyone well. PS LucindaE you were here with my previous pregnancies in 2017&2015! You are amazing to be doing this. Thank you 😘

LucindaE · 23/08/2022 21:45

RosieByTheSea Welcome back. I am glad this thread helped you in 2015 and 2017 and hope it will again. I am sorry about your miscarriage. Thank you for your kind words. Do you find the sea air helps with the nausea and vomiting, as some have commented on that, or as you have it all the time, is the effect less? Remind me what meds helped in the past. I hope someone with other LO's will be able to advise about what she has said to explain things to them. There are picture books on Hyperemesis for sale, which some find useful.
SpringChicken06 Welcome. Do ask for a sick note. Rest helps as much as medication. I am glad that the Cyclizine is helping. I am sure that work are trying to be helpful, but most sufferers from this scourge do need to be off work for a while, at least. I am glad you have been reading through this thread, but I attach my normal spiel just in case. Sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.
Elle1709 I am sorry to say that it can return for some in the third tri, though I gather, not usually as badly as in the dreadful first few weeks. It is dismal for those it happens to. Oh dear, I had to laugh about your partner's tapping his foot being a trigger: sorry!
violetcuriosity This is the thread that nobody wants to be on! The comparatively new Xonvea has helped a number of sufferers on here and was designed specifically for severe pregnancy sickness.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlook.

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LucindaE · 23/08/2022 21:49

Sorry, that's 'rudely overlooked'.

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tweetypi · 24/08/2022 10:28

Hi everyone, I'm currently 11+5 and have been suffering since around week 7. So glad to have found this thread, it sometimes feels like it's just me being pathetic and letting the sickness get me down. I'm a teacher so have been on summer holidays and have been feeling pretty low about spending them all on the sofa with a bucket in easy reach. My daughter turned 4 in August and she is worried about mummy being poorly - we haven't told her about the new baby yet and I don't want her to associate it with me not playing with her ☹️
My doctor has been quite helpful. I've tried a couple of meds which haven't really helped (but have knocked me out 😩) and I now have metaclopramide to try. Does anyone have any experience if that?
Solidarity to everyone else going through this, it's so hard!

SpringChicken06 · 24/08/2022 10:42

Thank you so so much @LucindaE. I ‘ve started on some of them foods but as you know it gets repetitive, beyond grateful for that long list and things I’d not even thought of!
I’ve also had a new anti sickness to try and a sick note for 2 weeks so thank you for the push and advise.

BalletN · 24/08/2022 20:11

@tweetypi @RosieByTheSea Sorry to hear you are struggling. I have a 4 year old. We waiting until the 12 week scan to tell him and then bought him the book How to Be an HG Hero. He knows the baby is making me sick but we have tried to present the baby as the solution - when the baby is born mummy will be better again and able to play.
@SpringChicken06 I've had some issues with work along these lines. If you need to be off sick, get a doctor's line. If you go through OH for adaptations, they may cut your pay and that will affect what you are paid for maternity leave too. @LucindaE I've checked with my union and apparently yes my employer can cut my contract and pay as proposed. Still seems really unfair though.
Hope everyone is doing OK tonight.

LucindaE · 24/08/2022 20:14

tweetypi Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. If you are still sofa bound, it looks as if you'll need a sick note for anyway part of the coming term. Teaching is particularly exhausting, as well. Quite a few on here have been helped by Metaclopramide. Were the other drugs Cyclizine and Stemetil, both of can make people very sleepy? If Metaclopramide doesn't help, there's other meds they can try, including a new-ish one called Xonvea. Try not to feel guilty about DD, as from what I've seen on these threads, they soon forget this period of comparative neglect, and a sibling is an invaluable gift. Here is my normal spiel which I hope may help. Sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20, or sometimes later. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously.When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, frozen smoothie ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Vimto, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange (M and S has been recommende), 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of strawberry or chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport. Also, pink lemonade , cloudy lemonade and Sprite. Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits, potato smileys, minature salty Yorkshire Puddings , dry cereals and slices of melon and mango. Protein drinks have also been mentioned.
SpringChicken06 I am glad you've got a sick note and new meds. I hope the rest and the new meds make a big difference.

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LucindaE · 24/08/2022 21:02

BalletN Sorry, I missed your post. My goodness, I am so surprised that is allowed, when it seems like blatant discrimination to me! Sorry about that; great advice to others.

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LucindaE · 25/08/2022 16:07

I hope everyone is managing today.

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LucindaE · 26/08/2022 20:24

Very quiet on here. I hope that's a good sign.

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LucindaE · 27/08/2022 17:51

Quiet again...Hope everyone is coping in this renewed heat.

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Elle1709 · 27/08/2022 19:39

@LucindaE I'm feeling okay today. Still got the worsened nausea but luckily I haven't been sick. It seems to be worse some days and slightly better other days, so hopefully it won't go back to as bad as it was in the first trimester. I'm coming up 31 weeks now, I'm very ready to meet the baby and not be pregnant anymore! 🙈 its definitely been very tough dealing with this sickness for 25 weeks now.. hope you are doing well!

ohCARP · 27/08/2022 20:07

Anaemia has floored me the last few days. I think the iron tablets are finally working though as I've felt better today. I've also been getting daily migraines which isn't pleasant!

I think I lost more of my plug today and I'm getting intense Braxton hicks after overdoing it this afternoon.

We're having Chinese for dinner though so that's keeping me going!

Hope everyone is ok 😊

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