Sorry ... still seeking the elusive pair of a perfect fit, not too expensive black trousers! Has anyone bought from Mamas & Papas? If so, what is the quality and fit like? Have one pair on order from Seraphine but they may be too short (and awful on me!!). Tried a couple of IO pairs but not a great fit and worried they looked like expensive tracksuit bottoms!! Just want to order something to compare with those from Seraphine. TIA