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The Graduates of TTC after pregnancy loss thread #3 🐧🐧The Penguin Huddle 🐧🐧

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InDreamland · 08/08/2019 22:55

New thread as the last one is nearing the max number of posts.

This is a supportive and safe space for ladies from the TTC after pregnancy loss thread who've had a BFP and now negotiating the scary rollercoaster world of pregnancy after loss.

If you weren't on the original thread though and have suffered a loss and are anxious about your new pregnancy please feel free to join the huddle 🐧

So ladies, I hope you are all here for the long haul until our 🌈 are delivered (and beyond if you fancy sticking around).

Let's pull on our positive pants and nerves of steel.

I'll start the roll call of EDD from the last thread:
@Melpops3638 - EDD 5/12/2019
@Beaglemum93 - 25 - EDD 22/12/19
@Amanda81 - 38 - EDD 27/12/19
@MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue - 36 - EDD 3/01/20 but having an elective section so likely to be 27/12/19
@theAntsareMyFriends - 35 - EDD 04/02/2020
@Laney79 - 40 - EDD 6/1/2020 (but elective section so likely to be 30/12/19)
@Bluebelltulip - 29 - EDD 9/1/2020 likely induction 2 weeks earlier
@moonpeace - 37 - EDD 23/01/20
@KnitKitty- 31 - EDD 29/01/20
@Newbie21 - 38 - EDD 6/2/2020 (if c-section circa. 31/1/2020)
@Zznorth - 29 - EDD 17/02/20
@InDreamland- 39 - EDD 18/02/20
@Tinatsarina - 29 - EDD 26/02/20
@Frillyfarmer - 29 - EDD 29/02/20
@duvetcaterpillar - 34 - EDD 27/03/2020

Also tagging: @rubyroot @sadtoday21 @Catconfusion @boboelephant @Yukka @Russkispy @VenusStarr @Beaglemum93 @Squiff70 @Navy123 @Bellasblankexpression

So sorry if I've missed anyone. I've tried to include as many as I could.

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Beaglemum93 · 26/08/2019 20:50

@InDreamland so much of that could be written by me...

Avocuddles · 26/08/2019 20:52

Thanks for sharing that article @InDreamland, it was eye opening to read about how her difficult pregnancy experience (and scan addiction) led to full blown post natal depression. A worthwhile reminder to all look after ourselves and make sure we talk openly about our mental health concerns - I hope we all can learn to trust in our bodies as she eventually did!

InDreamland · 26/08/2019 21:37

@Beaglemum93 I thought it would strike a chord with many of us on here in some way or another. It's a hidden pain so many go through isn't it.

@Avocuddles absolutely. I think one of the benefits of this thread is the support we get and ability to be able to voice our anxieties without fear of judgement and with understanding people. I am so grateful for you all. I don't think I'll be able to teuat my body though until I have a healthy baby in my arms at home. My body has let me down for 6 years, 5 years of unexplained infertility followed by 2 mc's, one of which was a mmc.

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InDreamland · 26/08/2019 21:48

@Beaglemum93 missed your comment about the heat. How hot was it where you are? It's been 32Β° here which is scorchio. Grateful for my fan right now to get a cooler breeze in the bedroom. Glad I'm not more pregnant and bubsy is due in winter. Can't imagine how ladies in 3rd trimester are coping. How do women in tropical countries do it?

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InDreamland · 26/08/2019 21:58

A little tip which I think I mentioned in the heatwave last month ........ if you want to cool down and have a fan, wash you hair then stand in front of the fan to dry it (obvs careful not to get your hair caught in it if it's long). It's bliss!! Takes longer to dry than with a hairdryer but so worth every second.

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Beaglemum93 · 26/08/2019 22:31

@InDreamland It's only been 27Β° here, I don't think I could cope with more. Although I was fine when it was 34Β° in France 8 weeks ago. I think it's just different when you're on holiday. I'm with you on not trusting my body until I have my baby safely in my arms. After my MMC I can't trust it to even know if something is wrong. Sorry you had such a long struggle with infertility before your losses. It's just so unfair.

FirstTimeMama91 · 27/08/2019 06:34

Morning ladies,
I'm officially pregnant again Smile going from lmp, due date 07/05. The nervous excitement is back πŸ™ˆ

The Graduates of TTC after pregnancy loss thread #3 🐧🐧The Penguin Huddle 🐧🐧
Avocuddles · 27/08/2019 07:19

Congratulations @FirstTimeMama91! Hope this is your 🌈

FirstTimeMama91 · 27/08/2019 07:34

Thanks @Avocuddles fingers crossed πŸ€žπŸ»πŸ™πŸ»πŸŒˆ

Beaglemum93 · 27/08/2019 08:00

Great news @FirstTimeMama91! Congratulations! Fingers crossed for a healthy nine months for you!

Bluebelltulip · 27/08/2019 08:07

@FirstTimeMama91 congratulations.

I went to bed last night at the same thing me as DD and was asleep before her according to DH. Fed up of being tired but I don't think the heat is helping.

InDreamland · 27/08/2019 08:34

@Beaglemum93 it's definitely different when on holiday. You're more relaxed for a start and can take it easy. No choice but to go into office today as I left my laptop there on Friday, gonna have to endure the central line tube this afternoon coming home when it'll be 31Β° outside. No air con on the train. It's going to be awful.

@FirstTimeMama91 congratulations! Hope you have a happy and healthy pregnancy. Welcome to anxiety central and operation knicker watch.

15w today and my anxiety is through the roof. DH away for work tonight........you'll know about my anxiety with him being away from home.

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MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue · 27/08/2019 08:36

Congratulations @FirstTimeMama91! Crossing all that this is your 🌈 xxx

I went to sleep really early last night too @Bluebelltulip but slept terribly. It's too hot even with our fan on!

I feel awful today and have just been squashed between two inconsiderate manspreaders on the central line. Mind you, at least I got a seat as I am now standing on a bus while people avoid eye contact with me. The joys of London transport when pregnant πŸ™„

The link you posted doesn't work @InDreamland, can you try again? Be interested to read it. Also good luck getting a scan booked.

Glad your scan went well too @Beaglemum93. Totally with you on being a scan addict!

InDreamland · 27/08/2019 08:36

@Bluebelltulip the heat won't be helping you when you're pregnant. Make sure you rest as much as you can. Do you find you sleep but then wake up a lot in the middle of the night? I can't sleep through and seem to wake up at least 5 times.

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InDreamland · 27/08/2019 08:43

Here you go @MyHeartIsBrokeButIHaveSomeGlue www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/apr/23/why-i-spent-2000-on-pregnancy-scans

Hope it works for you. It worked for me when I clicked on it. I hate the man spreaders on the tube and I swear central line is the worst. It's horrible being ignored on public transport - I get it a lot, people stare then look away or just ignore. I have had to ask to sit down last week because it got too much and the priority seat became available but someone else plonked themselves in it when I was standing right next to it. I've also had a nice lady demand someone give me their seat when I was being blatantly ignored. Oh the joy. Not looking forward to commute home.

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Mistymeow · 27/08/2019 14:00

@FirstTimeMama91 congratulations! What lovely news! And welcome :)

Thanks everyone who calmed me down about the spotting. I haven’t seen any since and it didn’t spoil my holiday, I had a lovely relaxing time. It’s my first scan tomorrow at EPU where I’ll be 8 weeks. My last pregnancy stopped developing at 8 weeks so I’m really nervous.

Hope everyone else is feeling ok.

Bluebelltulip · 27/08/2019 14:55

@InDreamland I wake up for the loo a couple of times and sometimes struggle to get comfortable.

@MistyMeow glad your spotting stopped and that you had a lovely holiday. Good luck for your scan.

I'm not doing much today, went out this morning to get shopping while it was cooler and DD complained she was hot all the way home so not going out again today. Just had some lovely melon as our afternoon snack which was nice and cool. My thoughts are with those commuting this afternoon/evening.

rubyroot · 27/08/2019 15:20

@Indreamland pregnancy insomnia... Its how I knew I was pregnant before I tested. I woke up at 5am, wide awake, no reason why!

rubyroot · 27/08/2019 15:21

See you are getting symptoms πŸ˜‰

Yukka · 27/08/2019 15:23

Hi Ladies. Finding it hard to drop in regularly to see how you all are, sorry, but I do think of you much more frequently than I post xx

@indreamland deff normal on the ligamant pain. As baby grows at different rates at different times it really depends on the frequency of your baby's growth spurts, in fact most women don't get ligament pain until the end of tri 2. At 15 weeks your uterus as increased massively in size, and that magic placenta is doing all the work to keep baby healthy, so your hormones will have dropped around week 14.

My advice - is the same I was given - make the most of this time. You have a lot to prepare at home, deciding what major things you're buying - prams, cots, nappies, formula or not etc etc and if you have jobs to do at home, you should get on with them. It might still feel far away and I know its hard to commit but you might find it easier if you start preparing little by little.

@Beaglemum93 feeling movements can be so worrying, it could be useful for you to read up on the things you can do before you next call the hospital the ones that helped me were to have fluids and something to eat - tea and a choccie biccy and a sit down was usually enough to get baby moving. A warm (but not hot) bath also is a trigger to wake baby and I personally found getting on all fours and doing downward dog yoga move :) ( that also helped get her out of breech position). Bare in mind baby sleeps for about 18-20 hours a day in the womb at this stage, and your movement every day is literally rocking him to sleep. When you're sleeping, he then has a wriggle. You'll feel this more and more as he gets more awake time and you might find yourself walking round the bedroom in the dark at 4 am to get him back to sleep. . . and he's not even born yet! Also know that one more week and baby is wholly 'clinically' viable - can be born and survive. Its a major milestone.

Nice to see you hear @fnej01 ! Congratulations! How far along are you now and have they given you a treatment plan yet?

And a few other newbies too, hope you are coping well and managing the anxiety phases.

We're still going well here. Baby is nearly 6 weeks, we have zero routine and lots of love :) today I'm getting smiles when I talk to her, lush. I was going to share with you my birthing story, so I've got some thoughts here . .

Firstly is that I was told to prepare for a long induction process, as I have APS and am 40 they wanted to induce before 40 weeks, so I was booked in for 39.3 and told it could take 2 days, all the drugs, likely to be very painful etc etc. They also talked through how inductions often end in intervention or C Section, so I really needed to prepare for the long haul and truly had to put those positive pants on . . .

What happened though was far from that. At 38.4 I managed my labour entirely at home. I had a bloody show on the Tuesday evening with light period pain, Wedneday morning mild contractions started, and waters broke in a trickle fashion about 6:30 am. Spoke to hospital, they said to stay at home until contractions reached 3 every 10 mintues or until pain became unbearable. My contractions were really sporadic, sometimes 4 in ten mins then nothing for 10 mins so I had no idea what was going on, just kept breathing . . .until 1.30am Thursday when the contractions were becoming quite strong, and I was getting tired. As my waters had broken, they had booked me for induction at 6:30 anyway ( 24 hours after water breaks if baby hasn't arrived is standard) Rang the hospital, they said to some in for pain relief, and as they had a bed we could stay given induction would start in the morning. We arrived at hospital about 2am, took two codeine, and suddenly I felt 'something change' - like something might come out ( I appreciate in hindsight i was having a baby but I honestly didn't believe it was happening as contractions weren't textbook!) and 30 mins later she was born :) I had no idea I was 9 cm dilated when we arrived at hospital - and neither did the midwives, they said I was so calm they had no idea and didn't examine me as a result. That is until I said I thought 'something was coming' , they examined and I was whisked off down the corridor to the delivery suite.

Too late for any other pain relief other than gas and air - but it wasn't needed, and the whole thing really wasn't that painful so I wanted to share with you what I did that I think helped . .

  1. hypnobirthing - I chose the Holly De Cruz book and affirmations. I started practicing this at 20 weeks, not that often, maybe once a week. I built up my own playlist of songs that make me feel happy and calm, and after about 30 weeks listened to i regularly, especially when going to bed in the evenings. Its this breathing technique and the playlist that I listened to when at home on the Wednesday and I dozed through most of my labour on the sofa . . .
  2. hire a tens machine. You can get them from boots online I think tesco too, they will deliver to you at 37 weeks and you send it back afterwards. About Β£30. I used this also on the wednesday at home, right up until we got to hospital
  3. I went for actupuncture regularly throughout pregnancy, and she did a birthing treatment the day before labour started
  4. I ate dark chocoloate - 90% cocoa - it releases endorphins in your body which are a stronger pain reliever than morphine ( who knew?!)
  5. I drank strawberry leaf tea twice a day from 37 weeks
  6. book onto an antenatal class if you can, you'll learn a lot and you'll meet local ladies. I've made a really good friend through my group and we are now meeting regularly and planning baby classes together. Its been good to have someone to talk through the 'whole' thing with, miscarriages, diagnosis, birth etc and she feels the same.
  7. Keep active - I swam right up until 5 days before she was born and did yoga for most of it. My pelvic floor is better than before I was pregnant, and I think using the muscles around the baby created strength for the birth. Its also good for your own anxiety.

Some of these things you can be doing now, and I did find focussing on the hypnobirthing actually helped manage my anxiety. When I was going for a scan for example, I used the breathing I'd learnt to stay as calm as possible.

Mostly - Do the things that make you happy, to balance out the worry and the stress.

Hope that's useful and happy to share any more detail if you just want to PM me.

Have you done a roll call recently, be nice to see everyone who's on here and your due dates. Hope you are all doing well xxx

sadtoday21 · 27/08/2019 16:32

That is amazingly helpful, thanks @Yukka! I haven't started thinking about these things yet as its still way too early for me, but still a very interesting read. Glad to hear that all is well with you and the little one!

Like most of the ladies on here, I've been finding it hard to keep up with the pace of this thread! So apologies in advance if I've not responded to everyone. I have also been trying (somewhat unsuccessfully) to stay off MN to manage my anxiety, which has been getting a lot worse as I approach the 12 week scan this week! 11+3 today and the scan is at 11+6 this Friday.

How are you doing @rubyroot? Is your tooth any better?

Sorry to hear you are still feeling anxious @InDreamland, it never seems to end does it! I think it is quite normal for symptoms to decrease a lot at this stage and unfortunately not much else will be going on for a few more weeks until your feel movement. All you can do is try to keep busy and productive as much as possible (also trying to tell myself this). Maybe another scan would help? Thinking of you xxx.

rubyroot · 27/08/2019 16:39

@sadtoday21 Good luck for your scan on Friday. Thanks for asking. The tooth has caused other issues in terms of infection, the tooth itself doesn't actually hurt that much.

So I'm finally get it done and I'm cross with myself for being so anxious that I've let myself get ill rather than having the local done.

So tonight is the night and the fuckers cantake it out for all I care, I'm cross with myself and this bloody tooth.

@DuvetCaterpillar how are you getting on, I haven't heard from you in a while.

Dimblebimble · 27/08/2019 17:16

Lovely to see you here too @MistyMeow, yes I remember we had our losses at a similar time and at a similar stage too. Hope your scan goes well, keeping everything crossed πŸ’•

ChikiTIKI · 27/08/2019 17:19

I was brave and called the doctors just now. Looks like my scan referral wasn't rejected we just haven't had a response yet. Which is a bit odd because it was supposed to be done via phone call but oh well at least it's still in progress somewhere :)

Avocuddles · 27/08/2019 17:26

@Yukka thanks so much for sharing your story, what a positive experience and your tips are really helpful. As a matter of interest how often did you have acupuncture throughout your pregnancy? I started after my miscarriage and am intending on keeping up my weekly treatments until 12 weeks (if I make it that far), but not sure how often to go after then.....?

From a roll call point of view - I'm 35, expecting DC1, currently 5+6 and feeling pretty nervous as have minimal symptoms and lost previous pregnancy at around 7 weeks...