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LucindaE · 23/07/2019 15:09

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Blii · 13/08/2019 19:28

MumbleLumble That’s great news that the ondansetron is working for you Smile yes, definitely get yourself some laxatives.

sprite25 I hope your day trip goes ok tomorrow.

Just come on quickly tonight so havnt been able to read everyone’s posts, hopefully you’re all getting by ok.
I’m still pregnant and severely fed up, back to puking every morning.
I wonder how avacado is, if she’s had baby yet Smile.

avacadooo · 13/08/2019 20:25

@Blii nope still very much pregnant 😂😫

I've actually started to turn my phone off because people keep texting asking if I've had it yet, as if I'd keep it a secret from them 😒 and had my nosey neighbour knocking on my door asking if I was still with us...🧐

Also been nesting like a crazy lady, the house has never been so clean, but I keep doing it at like 3am 😂

isitjanuary · 14/08/2019 10:53

Hi all. I'm 18+2. Due in January. Been sick since week 6. This is my second baby, with an 11 year gap.

I'm about to have a rant. I hope that's ok.
I'm so completely over being sick, even though I want this baby. I wish I could go back 5 months to when I felt normal and enjoyed life. Every hour feels like days and I just don't know how I'm going to make it to January. Mentally I am struggling.

I've tried different meds but find that everything has some side effect that I then need another med for. My god I am sick of the excess saliva and nasty taste in my mouth. I'm very low in iron but iron makes me sick.

The only thing I look forward to is my bed and hot water bottle at night. However I've started waking up with aching painful legs. I've googled it but can only see info on cramps and it's not like that.

I'm also really disappointed in my friends. None other than my SIL and one friend have been to see me in 4 months of illness. They text every so often but that's it. A few of them when they have been sick I have visited regularly, travelled long distances and brought food to. I now feel like these friendships are over.

My IL's keep telling me and my dh variations of 'she needs to eat more', 'she's not trying hard enough to eat' and 'she's going to harm the baby'. I've now refused to see them.

In all I'm wondering wtf has happened to my life!

DeadDoorpost · 14/08/2019 10:59

@isitjanuary people really don't understand unless they've been been through it themselves. However saying that, even my DM who had HG still occasionally slips up and asks or says things that irk me.

As for friends, sometimes people just don't know how to react and so they do nothing. I've got a friend who occasionally checks in with me, and would visit if we weren't 300 miles apart, but other than that I get nada from anyone else. Doesn't make them bad friends, just too busy with their own lives. Of course you can feel however you want to!

As for harming the baby. Don't worry, you're not! DS was absolutely fine after 14 weeks of Ice lollies and losing 2.5 stone in 7 weeks, and born a healthy 7 lbs 13 oz. DD due in 4 weeks is so far measuring to be just over 6 lbs and I've only managed to gain 3lbs so far in weight after losing who knows how much this time round.

Feel free to rant! We all do it!

sprite25 · 14/08/2019 17:21

Hi all just checking in, 💐 to those who need it today. Today has been surprisingly OK, had a day trip out with DC and although I took my cyclizine with me to make sure I kept on top of it, the nausea hasn't actually been too bad, maybe being out for the day was a good distraction? Although now I've got a splitting headache and am pining for my bed, so I'm hoping that I don't have to pay for it tomorrow by feeling really awful

sprite25 · 14/08/2019 17:23

Also forgot to add, when people start saying ridiculous/annoying things about us poor pregnant ladies feeling like this, just puke on them! 😂

Bol87 · 14/08/2019 19:50

Great news Sprite, the days where the nausea subsides a bit are such a relief! I had Monday like that and I managed to work all day (from home) which is a first for a while!

One thing I’m finding really hard (among many) is showering. Which is grim. The whole idea makes me feel sick and having one I spend the whole time trying not to be. I had my first one in a week today (I have been sink washing so I’m not so smelly) and I’m now laid here completely floored with nausea. It’s so not me, I’m a shower & wash my hair every morning person .. another thrilling HG day here, just awful.

sprite25 · 14/08/2019 20:24

Oh that's awful, I find the smell of shower gel, shampoo, deodorant etc are unbearable, same with brushing my teeth just looking at my toothbrush turns my stomach. It's so odd the things that can trigger it or make it worse.

LucindaE · 14/08/2019 20:38

Welcome to is itJanuary. Sorry you feel so bad. Ignore the nonsense from the IL's. Baby will be fine. I'm assuming they have tried Ondansetron with Cyclizine, B6 and a good laxative and anti acid? I'm assuming too, this is a first HG pregnancy fo ryou, though your second pregancy? So I'll give my spiel.
Things do get much better between weeks 14 and 20 for most people. Even for the unlucky ones who suffer throughout, it is never as bad as in the first dreadful bit.
Some drinks and solids that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lolllies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, fizzy water, lemonade, Robinson's fruit drinks, Dr Pepper, orange squash, tonic water, Elderflower water, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), soda water, Iron Bru, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), orange juice (if not too acid) and 7Up. Also, someone recommended piles of ice in drinks. For foods of a sort, nibbles of chips and crisps, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, baked potato, Scoth pancakes, biscuits and cuppa soup.
Have you got kesostix to test for deyhydration, available from any chemists? They are not the best method compared to scanty dark urine, dry mouth, headache, etc, but A and E departments do take them seriously. Might the painful legs be due to lack of salt?
Sorry about the friends letting you down. I think people can't believe how debilitating this is. They think sufferers are being Drama Queens - even if they know that would be out of character for the friend they remember.
Bili Sorry to hear about those Morning Bile Sprints. They are awful.
avocadoo How dismal about the Has S/He Arrived Harrassment.
Much sympathy. Here are are some Flowers.
DeadDoorPost Great advice.
Sprite I am glad your day out went OK. I hope you don't suffer too much for it, and it is really good to get out. It helps stave off feelings of isolation. I so agree about puking on those who give insensitive advice. Particularly on their favourite shoes. Grin

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ayeitsamb3r · 15/08/2019 00:53

Hey there all, I've been suffering with hg immensely from about week 6/7 of my pregnancy And I'm now 27+5 weeks gone and it's still persisting on, just wondering how far along everyone else is, how long (if you've had it before) did it last for? Got myself mentally prepared for it to last right the way through rather than wishing for it to be gone every day and being disappointed haha. Has anyone ever experienced it continue after the birth?
Hope everyone is coping okay anyways, I know it feels like it will never end bit I'm sure we'll all pull through c:

Blii · 15/08/2019 08:25

ayeitsamb3r Sorry you’re still suffering Sad it’s just awful. I had sickness with my first, like all day horrible sickness but it went around 12 weeks. With my second I had worse sickness, puking 30 times a day at the beginning and the doctors didn’t believe me, this left about 15 weeks and I was ok for the rest of the pregnancy... This pregnancy however has been the worst! Puking all day everyday up to about 20/24 weeks and then steady nausea every day with serious fatigue and occasional vomiting for the rest of the pregnancy. It’s ramped up slightly towards the end now. Hopefully my misery will be over any day now.
Sorry that probably hasn’t given you much hope, although the sickness is back it’s absolutely no way as bad as it was at the beginning. I am able to get out of bed and actually do things for my children now.
I’ve heard that it can continue after birth, mostly if breastfeeding.

Sorry you’re still pregnant too avacado, should be any day now! Yes I am also getting lots of texts asking if the baby is here yet, ha like I’m going to have a baby and not tell anyone.

avacadooo · 15/08/2019 09:25

@ayeitsamb3r it's lasted the whole time for me too but it's still not as bad as week 10 was, on the plus side to it all I can somewhat control the vomit and it's made me realise my pelvic floor muscles are bloody good! Only peed myself once while throwing up.
Also choked on a carrot the other day cause I like to shred them with my teeth and the bastard made a reappearance, I honestly thought I was going to be killed by a carrot 😂
It has become a less frequent thing for me to be sick though, hopefully it reduces for you too!

@Blii hopefully our misery is almost over, I'm sick of being pain constantly but I don't know what to expect from it all but at this point I'm in a fuck it I've survived all this shit I can do this mood.
Got a sweep today at 3 which does not thrill me!
And I've taken to ignoring anybody that texts me unless it's dh or my mum 😂 it's amazing how people you don't bother with come out the woodwork to hassle you about it but haven't bothered with me for the past 9 months!!

Hope everyone has a somewhat pleasant day!! 💕

DeadDoorpost · 15/08/2019 10:42

@ayeitsamb3r lasted until the placenta came out last time, fully expecting the same this time. I'm 36+4 atm so not much further to go. I did find that it was easier to manage as time went on though, so last few days last time I didn't need tablets, just watched what I ate.

ayeitsamb3r · 15/08/2019 12:26

Thanks for the responses, sorry to hear that it's still going strong for some ladies, able to see the light at the end of the tunnel now though which means I'm almost there and I'm sure I'll come to block out the 9 months of debilitating sickness once I'm able to hold my baby girl, it'll all be worth it for her.
Hope everyone else is managing to take it as it comes too, you dont really realise how much your body will go through until it's all happening at once, so hang in there ladies, you're all doing great! c:

HGpg · 15/08/2019 15:29

Marking my place. Can't believe I'm only 4+5 but the puking has begun in earnest. Second hyperemesis pregnancy can't believe I'm doing this again. It's a long road ahead.

User1704 · 15/08/2019 15:57

Hi, I’m going into my 4th HG pregnancy so I know this is probably a silly question but I’ve only just found out today I’m 4 weeks pregnant I don’t usually find out until I’m around 5 weeks and it’s usually the sickness that kindly lets me know I’m pregnant. So I’m thinking I might have a week before I start being sick. Is there anything I can do now to try n help before it even starts? I only don’t this recently as I lost my little girl at 21 weeks in may. Didn’t expect to be back so soon scared of the thought of possibly spending almost a whole year with HG x

avacadooo · 15/08/2019 17:48

So I'm fuming, ketones in my urine, got asked what I'd eaten today (Yorkshire puddings and gravy, don't ask) got told that wasn't goof enough and now it's written in my notes I'm not eating properly, she refused to give me a sweep as I just need to think positive and refused to give me an induction date.
I'm not a happy bunny and I'm seriously considering making a complaint about her considering she told me to just walk off my hg in the beginning and now this.
(Safe to say I'm not thinking positive right now)

sprite25 · 15/08/2019 18:44

Hi all just popping in to say hi, and hope today hasn't been too bad. I'm currently sitting cross legged on the floor rocking like a mad person as I feel sick. I don't know if it's the cyclizine or what but I've had such awful splitting headaches lately. I so wanted a large brood of children but think this will be my 3rd and final pregnancy, I don't think my mental health could survive another go at this

sprite25 · 15/08/2019 18:47

Avacado she sounds awful! Could you ask for a second opinion/to see someone else

LucindaE · 15/08/2019 20:04

Ayeitsamb3r Welcome.Sorry that you continue to suffer. Unfortunately, that is so for some people. Have you found that it has improved since the early weeks, at least? You have had some great advice already.
Unfortunately, for those who are very unlucky, it can continue for a while after the birth, usually connected with breast feeding. I was one. It was very violent for a couple of weeks, then settled into mild nausea on the letdown. Because of that I gave up feeing her myself just before 5 months. That is very rare though. Most people feel fine within hours or a couple of days of the birth.
I suppose they have run through all the medication options by now. Does an anti acid help you? As you are so far along you will have worked out which liquids and foods you can stand and so won't need my 'flat, full sugar coke, ice lolies and the juice of tinned fruit'spiel and the 'have you got kesostix?' one either.
User1707I am so sorry for you loss of your girl at 21 weeks. I wish I could think of something wholly appropriate to say. That is devastating. As you have suffered several times before, I am sure that your GP would understand the need for pre-emptive meds and prescribe whatever helped you before as the sooner the medication begins the less likely you are to become quite so ill.
HGpg Welcome. Do get meds asap. A good anti acid cna make all the differerence. It will be worth it!
advocadoo That sounds an awful midwife. I am outraged on your behalf. You have been trying to eat properly throughout. I think you should complain, frankly, if only because the midwife needs to learn the importance of treating patients with respect and not as idiots. Your notes say you have Hyperemesis, after all!
Good advice from bili DeadDoorPost and everyone.
Sprite25 I honestly don't know if headaches are a side effect of Cyclizine; I know it can be with Ondansetron. It could be hormonal, too. Hopefully , not due to dehydration?
I hope everyone is coping.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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DeadDoorpost · 15/08/2019 20:26

@User1704 I'd get straight to the Dr and get some meds ready. Earlier you start them the easier it usually is to cope.

@avacadooo she sounds terrible, id get a second opinion too. If I got asked what I'm eating she'd be even more horrified because it's pretty much junk.

Spent today mostly sleeping, finishing off a first draft of my novel about PND and celebrating our 4th anniversary.

Ibizababyy · 15/08/2019 21:25

Can I join? I don’t think I would class as HG but I am so so so miserable.

I’m 9+5 with number 2. First pregnancy I threw up at least 5-10 days daily from week 6 to 23. Thing was I just rolled with it, didn’t feel particularly terrible in between vomiting, never had a day off work and didn’t have medication. It didn’t even cross my mind to go the gp.

This time, I’ve felt sick since before I even found out at 4+4. It’s gotten steadily worse to the point I went to the doctors at about 7 weeks after having to take a few days off work. I felt sick from the moment I woke in a morning before I even opened my eyes until I went to sleep at night. And the nausea is debilitating, I can barely think straight let alone function. Have been quite dizzy and shakey too. So tried cyclizine for 10 days which initially gave me a couple of good days where I still felt nauseous but it was manageable. Then it seemed to stop working last weekend. Nausea was back constantly and I threw up a couple times too. GP started me metoclopramide on Monday and the start off this week was pretty decent I could focus at work, enjoyed a couple of meals and felt much more positive. I slept 12 hours last night as I was exhausted and this evening after feeling exhausted and increasingly more nauseous all day I have felt horrific. Been dry heaving over the loo so much that my stomach is killing me and I’ve just burst into tears to dh at how terrible I feel and how I am never ever ever doing this ever again.

I’m sorry for the rant and being so negative o just needed to get this all out somewhere. I also recognise I’m probably being over dramatic considering some women get dehydrated etc and I am ok eating etc within reason. This is so unlike me and I’m finding it so hard Sad

beforeIhit30 · 15/08/2019 21:30

Hi everyone, sorry for not including any individual mentions, I’ve been reading through just now and it’s been very busy! Flowers to new joiners to the thread and also those waiting to finally give birth. I’m so sorry to hear of the difficulties people have faced or continue to face, my warmest wishes to you all giving it your all each day to keep on going.

37+4 weeks now, 12 days until induction Confused We’ve cleared out even more stuff, one of our neighbours was laughing at DH putting all the black bags out this evening (collection is early tomorrow morning), I think we’re getting a reputation at this rate Blush Grin but I can finally walk along my upstairs hallway unobstructed! Nearly done, just some very minor bits to sort.

Baby keeps kicking, stretching, and head butting my cervix I think (or something like that). I’m pleased of course for the good movements but I’m getting a bit of a beating!

I think it was @ayeitsamb3r who was asking about length of sickness. This is my third child but first pregnancy with hyperemesis. I would say I reached a relatively steady state of not vomiting and limited nausea somewhere later in third trimester - maybe around 32 weeks or so. I was on 3x daily, I dropped to 2x cyclizine somewhere around maybe 34-35 weeks, I’m now on 1x cyclizine. I do still need it in the morning, I tried without and felt the difference, however I am generally well and avoid nausea the majority of the time. I do need to take it easy and pace myself, the more I do I will provoke the nausea, retching etc, but I generally feel well in the circumstances and miles better than I did up until around 27-28 weeks in particular. That was in stages, until about 16 weeks was horrendous, then to 27-28 weeks was better but still unwell (some good days, some bad days), and then as I got into the later part of the third trimester I have finally started to feel generally well most of the time (very grateful), just need to take it easy as mentioned. I would say the last two weeks in particular I have felt much better. I do however also get horrible heartburn, taking meds and sleeping on a wedge has helped but it’s hard to sleep comfortably like that! Apparently heartburn is more common when you have bad sickness.

avacadooo · 16/08/2019 07:11

Thanks guys!
I just feel so defeated right now, as if positive thoughts are going to work better than a sweep and it's made me feel as though if I doesn't happen it's my fault. She also told me I should get someone to come sit with me at home or tell dh to take time off to distract me which is bull because I've been spending all my time cleaning, sleeping, reading and playing games on my phone. I'm a grown woman I don't need a babysitter.

The food thing has really pissed me off, for one I don't see the harm in having Yorkshire puddings and gravy for lunch because it's what I fancied (dh laughed at this one saying he wants to eat them all the time because they're pretty magical tbh) and I had fajitas for dinner so it's not as if I'm not eating, but she's went and put it in my notes that I'm not which is unfair to base my diet on one day.
(@DeadDoorpost she luckily doesn't know about the three week phase where I could only stomach brown sauce and chips, I imagine she would freak if she knew😂)
I just get really paranoid when people comment on what I eat because I had a pretty awful time being force fed at boarding school so being treated like a child by her is bringing it all back.

I would ask for a second opinion considering my sister works in labour in a different county and is confused as to why she refused to give me a sweep but I've also been told she's one of the better ones so I think when the midwife phones me today I'm going to tell her I want transferred care to my sisters area and I'll just get the train down to my mums and stay with her, at least there I know I'll not be patronised.

I've woke up today feeling really awful, woke at half four and dh was fuming as apparently my snoring meant he hadn't got any sleep so I shuffled myself off to the spare room so he could get some sleep because I feel really guilty about keeping him awake but I now have a migraine and have had to pop some prochloperzine because I want to be sick.

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norbert23 · 16/08/2019 08:21

I'm so sorry you've been treated so unfairly @avacadooo it's completely unacceptable and I hope that the midwife you speak to today is more supportive. Eat what you want and try to get plenty of rest today 😀
You sound very productive @beforeIhit30! I'm doing the last few bits of ironing and then I have a day all alone to look forward to, which I should really do something useful with but I'll probably have a nap and watch homes under the hammer 😂 I'm also getting punched in the cervix constantly and have awful indigestion. Once he's here (10 days!) I'm going to do a ceremonial binning of my minging gaviscon!
Hugs and sympathy to everyone new and having a horrid time, rest and do / eat whatever you need to survive xx

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