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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 23/07/2019 15:09

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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LucindaE · 25/07/2019 21:02

I heard that Hairgician m ight have had her twins, but haven't liked to remove her until her Due Date.
Due Dates
evuscha 26 July
emma 4 August
Teddyreddy 9 August
advocadoo 11 August
canonlyhope 13 August
Bili 16 August
Hairgician 16 August TWINS!
norbert 26 August
beforei hit30 3 September
stroen 4 September
DeadDoorPost 8 September
1Potato 8 September
MoonKid 1 October TWINS!
ElkieMacjibe 12 October
TwoShades1 17 October
cattaxi 19 October
BlodwynBludd 16 November
Composed 30 November
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January

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Blii · 26/07/2019 08:16

Thanks Lucinda, I’ve actually been fine on these iron tabs. This will be the 4th day and I’ve not felt any more sick than normal. Yay. I’ve been prescribed one a day though. Not feeling any effects from it at all. I hoping for an energy burst Grin
37 weeks as of today so I am trying everything to bring on labour. As much as I want baby here I don’t want to be medically induced, I have heard many horror stories. People love to tell their horror stories.
A bit cooler today too which is a lovely relief. I must say I spent most the day in the bath yesterday. We live in a top floor flat so I’m not sure if it was hotter inside or out. But the bath definitely helped.

Hope everyone is ok.

yellow25 · 26/07/2019 09:31

Hi all
I'm 7 weeks with number 2. Everyone told me this time round might be different but the nausea came in thick and fast at the start of this week. The heat hasn't helped either! I just feel so hopeless and guilty. I'm a teacher and so currently off for the summer but I don't know how I'm going to cope when I'm back at work.

I took cyclizine last time. It made me terribly drowsy so I took one before bed which made enough difference for me to get on. I started taking it at 16 weeks last time so I was reluctant to take anything earlier this time around but would love to know others experiences?

Thanks and relieved to have found this thread xxx

DeadDoorpost · 26/07/2019 14:23

yellow the earlier the better ime

LucindaE · 26/07/2019 20:31

yellow25 Welcome. Congratulations on your pregnancy. As DeadDoorpost has said, do get meds asap. Don't feel guilty if you are still too ill to go back to work when they new term starts. You can't help this. I think they should have offered you something other than Cyclline last time, if it still made you very drowsy after a few days. That side effect wears off for most people. There are various meds and combinations that they can try. A good anti acid makes a big difference. If you haven't got some already, do invest in kesotsitx from any chemists, as while they are not the best test for dehydration A and E departments in hospitals do take those measuremets seriously (I hope you won't get to the stage whre you need IV fluids but just in case). Some drinks and solids that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lolllies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, lemonade, Robinson's fruit drinks, Dr Pepper, orange squash, tonic water, Elderflower water, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), soda water, Iron Bru, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), orange juice (if not too acid) and 7Up. Also, someone recommended piles of ice in drinks. For foods of a sort, nibbles of chips and crisps, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, baked potato, biscuits and cuppa soup.
Not quite so hot today, but muggy. I hope everyone is coping.

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beforeIhit30 · 27/07/2019 10:24

Hi @yellow25 I started taking cyclizine at 6 weeks, I was drowsy for about a week. Not constantly drowsy, but the first day very drowsy, then usually it would be something like napping a fair bit during the day, maybe falling asleep early too, so I definitely slept a lot more but I wasn’t out of it all day every day if that makes sense. After about a week that subsided. I would still get worn out quite easily and sleep a lot, but at that point it wasn’t cyclizine related, just seemed to be me being pregnant and my way of coping with the sickness and nausea! Rest was the best treatment for me. As DeadDoor and Lucinda have said, the earlier the meds the better. Cyclizine is a first line treatment as there is a lot of safety data for its use in pregnancy - the RCOG guidelines provide more detailed info (page 10 gives an overview around safety data, page 25 shows you the treatment options laid out fairly simply by first, second and third line). You can also try the BUMPS website (I can’t access it right now to link because my parental controls are being weird, BT seems to be having an issue!).

I think starting treatment early really helped to avoid things getting worse. FWIW and you may have experienced this last time too, you’re entering the peak period, somewhere around 8-13 weeks (a lot of people especially seem to say around week 9/week 10) is when the sickness and/or nausea can be at its worst. So it would be good to be medicated and resting as best as you can for that period, as it will help a lot, and then after that whilst it’s not necessarily a sudden and wonderful break from sickness (as you already know!), you may very gradually start to get some breaks and ‘good moments’ or even ‘good days’. I’ve been one of the unluckier ones and kept up with sickness and nausea for a while, but I would say it has pretty much eased for me since around 30 weeks pregnant (yay!) as long as I don’t try to do too much, whereas before I could rest and still be nauseous. I’m currently down to 1 cyclizine a day, first thing in the morning (more yay!) and I’m 35 weeks pregnant. But, I stopped vomiting regularly somewhere around maybe 14-16 weeks, it became an occasional thing (the odd day here and there rather than daily or at least several times a week), and seemed to pretty much stop somewhere around 22 weeks I think (bit hazy on the memory but that’s about right). The nausea is what continued more fervently, but as I say that has now largely abated as long as I don’t do too much.

Hopefully you can take it easy over the holidays, maybe a week or so before you’re due back in school it might be worth taking stock and considering whether you’re really ready to return to your usual teaching routine. I know it’s probably a bit hard for the school with the start of the new academic year and there’s quite a few teachers on here who have expressed their guilt at leaving their class and not being able to do much, but, you need to take care of yourself and you won’t be a very good teacher if you’re being sick or struggling to focus because of the nausea. Maybe some of the fellow teachers on here will be able to share some good advice from their experiences. In my experience (not a teacher, I do a corporate role in the public sector) it took me a while to accept I wasn’t going back to work any time soon but in giving myself the space to rest and getting signed off it has enabled me to recuperate and avoid the worst of it, I’m sure it would have been much rougher going if I had been trying to work, commute etc as it was already much rougher when I did simple things like try to stock the fridge!

I hope everyone is doing well, I am practically giddy with joy that it has dropped nearly 20C here - from 37C on Thursday to 19C and heavy rain today Grin my neighbours would likely think me mad. Around here some people will complain of the heat, but generally speaking the mindset is, “Great, it’s sunny! Everyone out the house, shorts and vests, get in that sun all day...”, whereas in my opinion this is an extreme weather condition and just as I don’t fancy being out all day in pouring rain or hailstones I equally don’t want to be out in the scorching sun! Our current wetter and cooler weather on the other hand is great, and it means I can actually do a few bits around the house without expiring!

Blii · 27/07/2019 15:51

I’m with you on the weather situation beforeIhit30, Thursday was almost unbearable. I kept getting the kids to hose me down. When we got in the car at 3pm the thermometer said 45c!!!! That is crazy. It went down to 40c by the time we got home as the car had been sat in the sun all day. But still. I’m not usually a sun moaner but I was struggling. I’m thankful it’s cooler now.
I’m sat here with some pains, pains I’ve not had before. It feels like period pain but it’s radiating down my thighs. No tightening or anything though. Maybe it’s the iron tablets messing with my gut. I’ve felt a bit sickly today after saying that I didn’t feel any differently, but not sure if I can blame the iron tablets. I’m so tired because I havnt been sleeping because it’s been so hot so hopefully a restful night tonight.
Hope everyone is ok.

norbert23 · 27/07/2019 16:53

Hi everyone 😀 I hope the cooler weather is helping, it's raining here and I couldn't be happier!
@yellow25 I'll also echo @beforeIhit30, it made me drowsy for a week or so and then got manageable. If possible try to nap and rest as that makes a big difference too, it's such a hard time x
@Blii I hope the pains get better soon and you can sleep better - not long to go but I know it feels like it isn't! I'm hoping to get a few last naps in and time to do a few things before my bump arrives x

Bol87 · 27/07/2019 17:17

Sorry to crash the thread but I just wondered if those out there who have taken ondanestron could help?

I’ve thankfully got a fantastic doctor who hasn’t hesitated in giving me ondans. for the second time (second pregnancy). Last pregnancy, I was really bad. I took Ondansetron until I was 28 weeks but I cannot for the life of me remember the dosage. This time she’s given me enough for 2x4mg a day (morning & eve) but it’s not working Sad .. the sickness has reduced but the nausea is just awful. I daren't be far away from a toilet & I’m feeling really down about being a rubbish mum to my two year old..

What kinda dose is usual in pregnancy? Wondering if I could take 8mg together rather than 2x4?! I don’t want to waste the doctors time if there’s nothing else they can give!

putputput · 27/07/2019 18:33

Just joining you** all on the new thread. I definitely think we all deserve a bloody medal after that heatwave.

I've been out of hospital for four weeks now and putting weight back on. I still feel horrendous but slightly more like a functional human being and also more of a mother to my toddler. That complete helplessness and misery of the first trimester is still very raw. I'm hoping to go back to work (reduced hours) in two weeks which I never envisaged being possible.

Bol - I take 8mg ondansetron 3 times a day, (started on 4mg three times a day)however that dose does give pretty awful side effects. Are you taking any other medications? It works well in conjunction with others. Can you chat to your Gp again?

LucindaE · 27/07/2019 22:00

Bol87 Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. As you are a veteran, I won't say my usual spiel about 'have you got kesostix as they take the readings seriously at A and E' and 'Do you find flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, and ice lollies are palatable' etc. I am glad you have got Odansetron (and good advice from others on this thread about dosage). As others say, you can take it with Cyclizine and other meds for increased effectiveness. Have you been given a laxative to help with the awful constipation that is so often a side effect? Do you find an anti acid like Omparzole or Ranitidine helps. Try not to worry about your LO. She will soon forget this period of relative neglect.
putputput That is excellent news. I am so glad you feel so much better, but please don't rush back to work wihthout being really strong again and able to handle the lack of rest. Well, that is what Mother Hen always says.

Bili Those pains sound miserable. Do you think that they might be due to a lack of salt? Apparently, very hot weather and consequent sweating can cause salt deprivation.
beforeihit30 Excellent advice, as ever Flowers
norbert I so agree about your all deserving medals. Here's some stars for everyone on here for that. Star Star Star Star
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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LucindaE · 27/07/2019 22:02

norbert I see it was putputput who said that, but I am sure you agree.

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Em6826 · 28/07/2019 09:32

Thought I would check back in. After reading all the advice I went and got myself cyclizine over the counter. Instant vast improvement in nausea, but as many other people have reported it definitely made me sleepy!
I haven't quite worked out the timing, and the sense of nausea when I wake up before taking them is still very strong.
Meanwhile I went to the doctor - she was friendly but when I mentioned nausea she brushed it off fairly instantly. Didn't ask any questions about frequency or strength of symptoms, but instead gave me the ginger tea chat (which oddly escalated to 'if you're really dehydrated and have ketones in your urine pls get help).
Didn't have the energy to argue and had already picked up the cyclizine so decided to let it go, wait a week and go back if things aren't improving.
Meanwhile I decided to listen to my body (and the heat) and didn't go to work thurs/ fri and essentially slept instead.

So, I think I'm doing better in the sense of not vomiting and looking after myself. But difficult to see how that's going to work with my job over the next couple of months Confused

Teddyreddy · 28/07/2019 17:05

@Bol87 for me ondansetron stopped the vomiting but didn't help with the nausea, and the nausea stopped me drinking anything. I found metaclopramide stopped the nausea but didn't stop the vomiting so they worked well in combination. They also help balance out each other's side effects as the metaclopramide speeds up the guts so helps with the constipation from the ondensatron. I never tried more than 2 x 4mg ondensatron so don't know if taking more ondensatron would settle the nausea too.

My news is that baby decided he didn't fancy an induction next week and would come by himself first instead. It was a long and difficult labour but it's been amazing since - for the first time since December I have been off anti nausea medication for over 24 hours! I've been able have all the things I couldn't have because they caused too much nausea, so I've had room temperature drinks, have enjoyed several cups of tea, and loved every minute of a sickly sweet chocolate pudding! I did struggle with nausea in labour though so it is worth making sure they write you up for anti nausea medication at the start - then the midwives can get you some whenever you need it.

The hot weather was horrible pregnant so I hope it stays cool for all of your sakes.

Bol87 · 28/07/2019 17:50

Thanks so much for the replies everyone. Sounds like there may be more that could help! I’ll go back and have a chat to my doctor. I’m taking ranitidine when I need it, it helps a lot at night time in particular!

Can you cyclizine over the counter? I’m wondering whether to try that before trying to fit in another doc appointment.. I hate sitting in the waiting room, I have a real fear about being sick in front of people I don’t know!

Bol87 · 28/07/2019 17:52

Oh and yes I have Laxido for the ondanestron. One tablet & that’s me constipated! I’ve been once since starting to take them Confused Recon I might need to take more of it but it’s a lot of liquid to keep down!

norbert23 · 28/07/2019 18:51

Huge congratulations @Teddyreddy - enjoy all the snuggles and lovely food at last! X

Marshmallow1992 · 28/07/2019 19:18

Hi everyone, after being told I wasn’t allowed ondansetron, I ended up at the maternity unit (currently here just now) and they are giving me it. I’m praying that it helps as the nausea is overwhelming and the vomiting 8+ times per day isn’t great. I think because I’m almost 14 weeks they are finally giving me it. Does anyone have any success stories with ondansetron and did it help?

LucindaE · 28/07/2019 19:35

Teddyreddy Happy news. It is wonderful that the sickness has gone for you. It does within hours or days for almost everyone but the tiny minority who are badly affected by breast feeding horones (I was one; trust me). So glad baby arrived naturally. Sorry you had a long, difficult labour. Welcome to the Pink Castle. Smile Flowers Star Cake Brew
Em6026 Glad to hear from you again and that you have got Cyclizine. Did the doctor refuse all meds, then? That is very bad, and it's awful that she gingered you. Would it be possible for you to get a sick note?| It might be worth phoning up Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 for advice if you can't get meds from anyone in your practice and the Cyclizine continue to make you sleepy.
Bol87 The absurd thing is that normally you can get Cyclizine over the counter, but though it has been used safely since the 1980's for pregnant woman, they won 't sell it to them over the counter.
I am glad you have got an anti acid and a laxative.
Here's the new Due Dates list. I have decided to take Hairgician off as someone said a while ago that her TWINS! had arrived.
Due Dates
Due Dates
emma 4 August
advocadoo 11 August
canonlyhope 13 August
Bili 16 August
norbert 26 August
beforei hit30 3 September
stroen 4 September
DeadDoorPost 8 September
1Potato 8 September
MoonKid 1 October TWINS!
ElkieMacjibe 12 October
TwoShades1 17 October
cattaxi 19 October
BlodwynBludd 16 November
Composed 30 November
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January

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LucindaE · 28/07/2019 19:37

Marshmallow Cross posted. Sorry you were admitted. Countless people on these threads have been helped by Ondansetron. I hope you feel better soon.

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Bol87 · 28/07/2019 22:43

Marshmallow - yep, ondanestron is a life saver. For me, predominantly for the vomiting. Sadly less so the nausea both times. Nothing seems to touch my nausea fully.. last time I tried allsorts but ended up sticking to ondanestron as at least I stopped being sick. I had some left over ondanestron after pregnancy and I used it during a stomach bug. Worked a treat for the nausea & vomiting. It’s a bit frustrating it works less in pregnancy but I guess it’s all to do with hormones as opposed to a virus! I really hope it helps you!

Marshmallow1992 · 29/07/2019 09:59

Thank you I’m praying they work for me and I can start to have my life back a bit.

DeadDoorpost · 29/07/2019 10:44

Congratulations Teddy !!!

Marshmallow ondansetron heloed the whole of my last pregnancy. This time not so much sadly but worked with other meds.

composed · 29/07/2019 11:27

Congratulations Teddy that is lovely news x

I think I’m having a relapse at 22 weeks ben throwing up horrifically to the point my stomach hurts and is tender and the ondansetron isn’t working nor the ranatidine. The depression is getting worse and actually ended up telling my husband I want to killl myself can he please bring me something to help me.

Think I am losing the plot, was supposed to go back to work next week after current sicknote runs out, I’ve been signed off since early april but I now doubt it, it’s making my anxiety worse. My gp and midwife are both useless so don’t feel I have anywhere to turn to.

So sorry for the me me post I just need to let it out in a safe and non judgemental place xx

MumbleLumble · 29/07/2019 12:19

Hi, I haven't read the whole thread yet but will once I've posted. So sorry that so many of you are suffering like I am. So I'm 10 weeks with my 3rd.i had HG in my first pregnancy but 'only' had bad sickness with my second. I thought I'd get away with it this time but I haven't. I've already been admitted to hospital and I'm just so fed up. No medication seems to help. It's so weird though as I do get days where I'm not even sick once then other days it's 20+ times. I've got horrific acid reflux too which isn't helping.

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