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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 23/07/2019 15:09

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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HairsprayBabe · 08/12/2019 21:19

Ok thank you I will have to call the GP again in the morning. I am completely miserable and so worried I have been taking 3 cyclizine a day, I throw up randomly though in no relation to when I have eaten/drank if that makes sense.

Thank you all again I'll update with how I get on

Melleebacca · 09/12/2019 17:35

@HairsprayBabe try and get an appt with your GP. Sounds like you not only need stronger meds but also to be rehydrated. Dehydration also makes the sickness worse.
Hoping to hear you feeling a bit better soon!

I’m also contemplating heading in for rehydration in the next day or two. I kept no food down at all yesterday. Made hubby come home at lunchtime as I was so unwell.

LucindaE · 09/12/2019 19:00

Welcome to HairsprayBabe. Sorry you feel so bad. You have had great advice from Melleebacca, Whatnext11 and GinnyOz already. I so agree with it, do ask for other meds as the Cyclizine isn't working. There are others they can try, and combinations, too. Below is my normal spiel, which repeats some of what others have said about kesostix, etc. You already have discovered ice lollies...
Here is the normal spiel. Don't despair,most people get relief between weeks 14 and 21. Even the unlucky minority who suffer throughout almost never feel as ill later on as they do in the early weeks.
A good anti-acid can make a big difference. Try not to fret too much about the baby, they are effective parasites and tend to take all the nourishment, which is one of the reasons you feel so bad. So long as you can keep reasonably hydrated, they are unlikely to suffer. Some drinks and foods of a sort that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucozade, fizzy water, Elderflower water, Robinson's fruit drinks, fizzy orange, lemonade, Dr Pepper, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), 7Up, Iron Bru, soda water, ice cubes, chocolate milkshakes (maybe soya), cocoanut milk, orange squash and sips of orange juice if not too acid. Some foods of a sort: nibbles of chips and crisps, baked potatoes, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, Scotch pancakes and biscuits. It might be worth investing in some kesostix if you don't have them already as while they are not the best test of dehydration, hospitals do take them seriously. Otherwise, watch out for inelestic skin, ie skin that doesn't spring back when pulled, scanty dark urine, headache, etc.
Melleebacca Aagh - poor you! A cold, headache and two sick youngsters. I hope the headache isn't a dehydration one, but it sounds as if you think it is? Much symmpathy.
Whatsnext11 Hee Hee about name calling. Grin
Waves to GinnyOz and everyone.
Watch me cross post.

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HairsprayBabe · 09/12/2019 19:22

Thank you for the welcome, can't get into the GP till Weds have managed a pint of fizzy water and a jacket potato it isn't sitting well though and I don't think it will stay down long .

Have also had a packet of soft mints over the day an ice lolly and maybe a 3/4 pint of water over the day. I feel so fainty and weak I'm going to try and sleep but the nausea keeps waking me up I was up at 3am and couldn't get back to sleep.

I worked from home today or at least tried to emailed my partner's for the project and tried to share all the possible files that I could so the project can continue without me if needs be.

Sorry this might be tmi if people are feeling really sick but I am trying to use a bowl not the loo so I can tell how much water I am actually managing to keep down - should I bother doing this or not?

I spoke to my mum and she said she didn't really have and MS but her sister was horribly sick up until 6 months. My aunt only lives down the road but doesn't know I am pregnant yet I am considering telling her earlier than we had planned because it would be great to get some real life support.

Melleebacca · 09/12/2019 19:51

@LucindaE I think the headache is related to the cold. But the fact that I kept so little down yesterday worries me hydration wise. Can’t get to the GP till tomorrow, so will see how I go this morning.

@HairsprayBabe I think talking to your aunt is an excellent idea. She may not be able to give you many tips, but the sympathy from someone who has suffered, helps a heap! She might be able to help with the mental side of things.
In regards to pee, I worry most about the frequency and colour. If it’s really dark and only happening a couple of times a day, then you are most likely dehydrated. It sounds like you’re doing a good job of trying to keep your fluids up.

GinnyOz · 09/12/2019 20:08

@hairspraybabe sounds to me like you're doing quite good considering keeping hydrated. I also wouldn't worry about the bowl, it might make you sicker to be confronted with your vomit. Agree at checking the urine.

I would also try talking to your aunt, just having someone who's been through it helps so much. Having a shoulder to cry on lightens your load.

Its only a few days to the doctor, just try hang in there and sleep as much as you can. If possible take some time off work before th Dr so you can rest. Ondansetron was a wonder drug for me, so there is definitely hope you will find the right pills!

GinnyOz · 09/12/2019 20:11

As I've not told anyone I'm pregnant yet, just giving an update here 😂😂

I'm 6+2 and still feeling fine. Have requested a vitality scan which is next Monday, as I feel like it's not a viable pregnancy without vomiting 10 times a day.

I had a miscarriage(chemical pregnancy?) between my 2 kids at I think around 5 weeks, and I also wasn't sick with that one.

Anyone else ever not been sick and miscarried??

Whatnext11 · 09/12/2019 21:10

I've only had my dehydration levels checked at the hospital but I wonder hairspraybabe whether they would check your keytone level at the GPs. Might be worth asking them to check so they know if you need a drip? I'm thinking a drip is a good 'quick fix' while any stronger meds kick in. Others may know if this is something they do.
GinnyOz hope all is well at your scan. This is my first pregnancy so have no advice but it's such a scary time waiting to know if all is ok. I hear some feel better with subsequent pregnancies so hoping all is well for you.

Whatnext11 · 09/12/2019 21:11

We will need a new thread soon, we are nearly at 1000 posts!

Melleebacca · 09/12/2019 23:31

@GinnyOz I haven’t miscarried myself (I got the HG from my dads side, and the sticky babies from my mums side). But my stepmum suffered HG and had multiple miscarriages, she did mention that she was relieved when she was really sick as she was more likely to not miscarry. Not really what you want to hear tho.

@Whatnext11 I’m in NZ, and our GP does fluids in-house. Because of the HG, ketones are the first thing she checks, and if they’re ok, but I’m still feeling pretty blah, she’s happy for me to have a small iv. Primary concern is to keep me healthy enough that baby grows well. Plus the GPs office has toys, so less of an issue to get the fluids with the kids around.

@HairsprayBabe the only drug that helps me is ondansetron. Which is the strongest you can get (apart from steroids in hospital). I’m still bed-ridden on it, for about 10wks, but it keeps me out of hospital and able to eat and drink a small amount.

GinnyOz · 10/12/2019 08:21

Thanks @melleebacca. Indeed not really good news but what I suspected. Preparing myself for disappointment.

@hairspraybabe can you maybe change your midwife appointment to sooner considering the situation? I can get my key tones checked at the midwife too.

HairsprayBabe · 10/12/2019 11:52

Was up all night being sick.
Re rang the GP this morning and they want me to go into the epu I've lost over half a stone and I was not over weight to begin with.

My husband is driving back from work to take me in.

LucindaE · 10/12/2019 19:20

Everyone, I have to start a new thread. HairsprayBabe Poor you. You will feel a lot better for fluids and hopefully they will get an effective meds regime worked out.
GinnyOz I am sorry to hear of your worries. It is so hard to say, as it might be a sign that you are going to escape with a less severe form if the nausea hasn't started yet. I had an MMC where there was mild sickness that tapered off but that was later on.

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LucindaE · 10/12/2019 19:30

New thread, everyone:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/3765546-Hyperemesis-Support

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GinnyOz · 10/12/2019 19:47

@HairsprayBabe
Oh dear that's terrible. What happened?? What is epu?

HairsprayBabe · 10/12/2019 21:33

I'm admitted to the early pregnancy unit, have been given four separate drips feeling a lot better although still queasy as anything

woollycat · 11/12/2019 17:51

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Shereendoc · 07/03/2020 09:41

Hello. I’m new and confused as to if I have HG. In my first pregnancy I had ‘extreme NVP’ according to GP but not HG. I went entirely off food and had certain windows in which I could eat very specific things. Often salty snackajacks or tuna sandwiches for some reason. I survived on lucozade sport. I was probably only sick about 10-20 times in 14 weeks but I felt like that was because I was essentially not eating barely anything. I lost 5kg (just below the % threshold). I had bad days and good days but mainly went to work I think with about 2-3 weeks wfh or off with bedrest in total. I couldn’t take tablets and tbh my GP back then didn’t discuss HG. They said as long as I could keep fluids down then it was just VF sickness and I sort of had to get on with it. It cleared up after 14weeks.

This time around it’s been similar but different. I’ve been wfh 10.5 days out of 5 weeks at home and the rest has been off. There are so many bad days where I have to lie in a dark room and can’t move and snacks/meals have to be brought to me when a windows comes on (luckily oh works from home. Not lucky for him). I’ve been chronically dehydrated, urinating once per day, always dark yellow and sometimes dark orange. But my experience in first pregnancy made me averse to GP, I was so sick I couldn’t bare to go and just be told it to just carry on. I’ve lost 4kg this time around (but I’m heavier to start with) and weirdly although I feel a HUGE amount more nausea and motion sickness (leaving the house has felt impossible for 4-5 weeks, often leaving bed feels that way), I am definitely eating more and keeping more down that last time. But I’m totally off drinks. The ‘usual HG drinks’ that get people through like sugar and pop is the exact opposite of what I want. I can just get by in sips of water and occasionally sugar free squash through a straw. Eventually went on Tuesday they found 2++ ketones and prescribed cyclixine. She didn’t discuss it with me, but once home I’ve seen HG on my online record.

I’m confused. Is it HG? I’m eating and keeping food down. I only throw up 1-2 per day. But that is because I stay in bed and basically don’t move. Is it possible to have HG that is triggered by motion rather than food so much? Things like standing up too fast or for too long, brushing my teeth, having a bath, picking up my 2yr old daughter, walking too fast, the wrong noises or TV, or crying make me puke. I get sudden onset puking. And then I have better days and I feel okay and think I’m coming out of it and then wham I get hit by nausea or sudden vomiting.

It felt like there was a logic to it last time. Like I’d wake up and now if it was a good day or a bad day and if I could work or not. And it was consistent. I knew on the whole I basically couldn’t eat but I always had the certain few things I knew I would crave and when the window came I ate them and the rest of the time I was on rehydration and sports drinks. This time it’s like I can eat 4 times a day and generally speaking the food isn’t the issue but I find it hard to drink and any kind of physical exertion beyond staying in bed (on a bad day) or in the house (on a good day) feels like puke central. Is this HG? It’s so hard to process it or communicate it to people. It’s like I’m fine to wfh on a good day as long as I’m in bed in PJs and my husband brings me food. But as soon as I then try to wake up and get dressed and go to work I’ll puke 3 times before leaving the house.

The Cyclixine started Tuesday and I didn’t throw up wed-thurs so thought I was on to something but had awful sickness twice last night after going downstairs and picking up daughter for a cuddle.

I just don’t understand what’s wrong with me or what I can do. I’m freelance and if I don’t work I don’t get paid. I struggled to do 10.5 days from home last month and so far this month I’ve done 0. I think my boss has run out of understanding for wfh and thinks if you can wfh you can work here. How do I explain I have HG triggered by activity. Is that even a thing??

Any help welcome. I’m so confused.

LucindaE · 15/04/2020 21:24

Shereendoc I think you found us on the latest thread.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/3765546-Hyperemesis-Support

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Seeker2020 · 29/05/2020 08:27

Hi all, I'm totally new to MN, but stumbled on a post when I was frantically looking for info on HG. This is my first pregnancy, I'm 8+1 and have already been to hospital twice for fluids. Has anyone had any real experience of it easing up like the usual NVP/MS around the 12-14 week mark?

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Tryingtokeepmysanity · 30/11/2020 02:55

Hi, this is my first pregnancy I’m currently at 11+5 weeks. I’ve been vomiting with constant nausea since week 6, been in A&E twice with ketones in urine. I’ve tried cyclizine, promethazine and stemetil, none of which worked for me. I am currently on a combination of metoclopramide and ondansetron which have some effect but I still have nausea and vomit around once a day. I cannot sleep well, have been off work since week 6 and I’m at the end of my tether! People keep saying it’s normal to have nausea and vomiting in pregnancy, but when is this torture going to end??!! I want to feel better and enjoy my pregnancy, be able to go to work and have a life again! Sorry this is mostly a rant but I’m so sick of feeling so rubbish. Most of my friends have had comfortable pregnancies where they worked throughout so none of them can relate and I keep feeling like perhaps I’m the weak one or I should try harder to avoid medication or something....

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