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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 23/07/2019 15:09

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Melleebacca · 23/11/2019 16:54

@Whatnext11 sorry to hear that! It does get better slowly by having less bad days and more good ones, so you’re on the right track. Hopefully you can get the fluids and have a good day tomorrow.

It was a rough night for me with both girls. We got disney + so we watched Moana. But my big girl cried almost constantly because she missed daddy (must be a bit more clingy now that I’m sick and everything is changing). Both girls were hard to get to sleep and I had to keep running away to vomit. All my muscles today are in agony from the vomiting. And hubby of course decided to stay until the party ended so he’s going to be ridiculously tired today.

I’ve got a doctors appt for Tuesday to check if I need fluids. They can do them in-house, and I’m getting worse every few days. Hoping a bit more GP interaction this time around might help my mental health too.

LucindaE · 23/11/2019 20:08

Whatsup11 and Melleebacca Oh dear, not good news from either. Very good of you not to be more annoyed at OH for staying until the end, though OH's never seem to come back from social occasions when they say they will, so I wonder they bother making promises. Wink I hope you both manage to keep hydrated. Good encouragment for Whatsup11 about those good days being an encouraging sign. I am glad the doctor is being supportive.

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Whatnext11 · 24/11/2019 10:18

@LucindaE thank you, I was admitted and got a drip, I never mind being in the hospital as it's the way back to feeling better, it's waiting to be bad enough to go in, as i know the signs now, then waiting for treatment. The treatment always works for me which is good.
@Melleebacca I forgot you are not very far along so friends don't know to offer you help - I forget because you've been through it before so you are a thread expert! Hope you and OH manage today.

Marshmallow1992 · 24/11/2019 15:32

Not posted on here in a while. Hope everyone is getting on ok. I had felt relatively good for a while there and was only being sick every other day but my goodness since I’ve hit 28 weeks it’s came back! The nausea and vomiting isn’t as bad as it was before but I am sick several times a day and for large spells do feel horrendous again. Did anyone find their symptoms returned in the third trimester? I am now 30 + 4 and just desperate to have this baby.

Melleebacca · 24/11/2019 16:27

@marshmallow1992 I’m so sorry it’s come back for you in the 3rd trimester. Unfortunately that is common. It’s the reason I take ondansetron till 36w, by then if I relapse, I’m close enough to count the days.

@Whatnext11 yes. It’s hard being only 8w. I need to put on a brave face whenever I’m on kindy dropoff, but it’s getting to the stage where I can’t do it anymore. I’ve gotten much sicker over the weekend, and Im meant to be juggling a lot more this week, but I’m just going to have to make hubby do it, and he’s busy too.

LucindaE · 24/11/2019 19:06

Whatsup11 Sorry you were admititted, but as you say, you feel a lot better fo r it. Have you been discharged yet?
Melleebacca You have been very brave struggling on with it. How much of an improvement have you had before? That is a very good plan about taking the meds until week 36.
Marshmallow Poor you. It is very disappointing for those who have had a marked improvement to have a relapse in the third tri.
Remind me what meds you were on before. Can you get them again?

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Marshmallow1992 · 24/11/2019 20:43

@LucindaE I’ve been on stemetil, metclopromide (didn’t do anything) ondansetron was the only one that touched it! I’m going to phone tomorrow and can hopefully get more. I was feeling so good as well! I wonder what has made it come back. Roll on due date.

composed · 25/11/2019 03:13

Hello all, I haven’t been on for some time
but I can honestly say this forum and everyone on it esp LucindaE really helped me get through the worst times with hg.

I have now given birth to our little girl on saturday and would like to say to everyone still going through this horrible journey that you CAN and WILL get through it. Do whatever and eat whatever you can and want, take each day minute by minute and know that you are all survivors.

My thoughts are with you all and I will be cheering you all on. Thank you to all those helped me earlier this year and many thanks to LucindaE once again x

LucindaE · 25/11/2019 19:14

composed Thank you so much for your lovely and supportive message. Excellent advice. Congratulations on your little girl. Star Flowers Smile. I hope you are enjoying eating and drinking again Brew Cake. I am so glad that this thread helped you. Enjoy every moment of your baby. They aren't babies for long!
Marshmallow1992 I think hormones has a lot to do with it. It is awful and I do hope you get some more Ondansetron. Does an anti acid help?

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Marshmallow1992 · 25/11/2019 19:17

@composed congratulations, what wonderful news! Enjoy every minute.

@lucindae doesn’t really work, it’s odd because sometimes I feel ok and other times I feel horrific! It’s not like before where I felt horrible 24/7, it’s just maybe 12/7 if that makes sense but still not great and still just desperate to have my baby. Getting more ondansetron so hopefully that helps. Thanks for all your help.

LucindaE · 25/11/2019 19:23

Still delighted about composed. Smile Marshamallow1992 It's a pest that anti acids don't help you. Feeling bad 12/7 is very grim. Here's the updated Due Dates list.

Due Dates
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January
Ribenaberriesgowoo82 28 January
Marshmallow 1992 29 January
MumbleLumble 19 February
Katela18 22 February
Bray23 23 February
Twistsandcurls 3 March
yellow25 17 March
Bol87 18 March
Sprite25 29 March
Catconfusion 15 April
RaynorEsme2019 19 April
Moonstone12 1 May
Pastnowfuture 7 May

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Melleebacca · 25/11/2019 20:29

@lucindaE You’re welcome to add me waaaay waaay down the bottom of the list. July 3rd, but both girls were a couple of days early, so I’m hopeful for a June babe.

@composed Congratulations! Enjoy this beautiful nausea free, newborn time. It really is the best.

@Marshmallow1992 I know people who have gotten a relapse in the 3rd trimester because of the pressure on the stomach from the baby. I did struggle with reflux that made the nausea worse in the 3rd trimester with DD1

Off to the doctor today, to check in and get more meds. I’m coping ok thanks to the babysitter of Disney +. I had a frozen coke yesterday afternoon because it was 30deg, and I had a late meeting with the realtors. It helped so much!

Dinosauraddict · 26/11/2019 07:11

Hi all, can I please join you? Currently 25 weeks (due March 10th) and had HG since week 17. On ondanestron and cyclizine which just about stop the projectile vomiting. Loving life...

MrsH497 · 26/11/2019 08:21

Can I join you ladies? I'm 15 weeks due 18/5/2020 first baby been diagnosed with HG. Was signed off for 4 weeks went back Friday all seemed ok hadn't been sick for a good 2 weeks with the medication but back to being sick this morning so I just sat and cried. Luckily I can work from home today but honestly thought I'd got on top of this all. Don't want to end up back in hospital on fluids so got to make sure I stay hydrated today

Love to you all

LucindaE · 26/11/2019 18:28

MrsH497 and Dinsoauraddict Welcome.

DinosaurAddict Oh dear, poor you. I am sorry you have it so badly. Are there any other meds they could add? Do not despair; others have had an improvement later than you. Has it improved at all? Have they dismissed the idea of using steroids?
MrsH497 Sorry it has come back. Sufferers are often tempted to overdo it, and that sets it off again. Could you arrange a staggered return, do you think - or more working from home? That you had two weeks without vomiting is a really good sign. What meds did you say you are on? Might they help keep it at bay? It is disappointing to go back on meds but it might be the best thing.
I have put some generic advice below for both in case it helps.
A good anti-acid can make a big difference. Try not to fret too much about the baby, they are effective parasites and tend to take all the nourishment, which is one of the reasons you feel so bad. So long as you can keep reasonably hydrated, they are unlikely to suffer. Some drinks and foods of a sort that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucozade, fizzy water, Elderflower water, Robinson's fruit drinks, fizzy orange, lemonade, Dr Pepper, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), 7Up, Iron Bru, soda water, ice cubes, chocolate milkshakes (maybe soya), cocoanut milk, orange squash and sips of orange juice if not too acid. Some foods of a sort: nibbles of chips and crisps, baked potatoes, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, Scotch pancakes and biscuits. It might be worth investing in some kesostix if you don't have them already as while they are not the best test of dehydration for reasons that Melleebacca explains below, hospitals do take them seriously. Otherwise, watch out for inelestic skin, ie skin that doesn't spring back when pulled, dark urine, headache, etc.
Melleebacca I will add you. I do hope baby comes early. I am so glad frozen coke helped.

Due Dates
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January
Ribenaberriesgowoo82 28 January
Marshmallow 1992 29 January
MumbleLumble 19 February
Katela18 22 February
Bray23 23 February
Twistsandcurls 3 March
Dinosauraddict 10 March
yellow25 17 March
Bol87 18 March
Sprite25 29 March
Catconfusion 15 April
RaynorEsme2019 19 April
Moonstone12 1 May
Pastnowfuture 7 May
MrsH497 18 May
Melleebacca 3 July

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Melleebacca · 27/11/2019 00:18

@Dinosauraddict I’m sorry to hear it’s still going on for you. Please keep up with the meds, and take joy in the fact you’re past halfway.

@MrsH497 it sucks having a bad day, but one bad day vs 2 good weeks is really good!

I’m trying really hard to stay positive as I head into the darkest weeks. Online Christmas shopping in bed with my 4yr old is a good distraction.

Hugs to all

Dinosauraddict · 27/11/2019 04:33

Thanks @Melleebacca and @LucindaE. I was signed off for 7 weeks and hospitalised, went back to work last week on a phased return, so only working 3.5 days a week, 1.5 of those from home. I'm really glad to be back at work but am barely managing the 3.5 days. Lucinda - no-one has mentioned the possibility of steroids - is this a thing?
Hope the online Christmas shopping is going well! Grin I'm doing my usual trick of spending most the 'early morning' sat in the bathroom feeling vile. I'm so glad some people have recovered later than me, my DM is certain I'll now have HG until birth. My DH is amazing and used the same line as you about baby being a parasite (obviously a very cute and loved one)!

MrsH497 · 27/11/2019 14:15

Thank you @LucindaE that's all really helpful. Doing better today think I'll just have to wake up an hour before I need to and take medication so it gets in my system.

abbs1 · 27/11/2019 15:40

@Dinosouraddict I was on steroids for 6 weeks from 12-18 weeks as this was the only way to stop the vomiting along with ondansatron and metoclopromide. Before that I was in hospital 4 times a week for fluids and iv medication as no pills worked for me.
I had iv steroids and iv ondansatron on home visits and then pill medication of the same to stop the vomiting. I'm now on pill form still of ondansatron and metoclopromide and its keeping my vomiting and nausea away mostly at 22 weeks.

MarieMarie2019 · 27/11/2019 15:57

Hi All,

Honestly I didn't know where to turn so thought I should post here.

I''m 16 weeks pregnant and was diagnosed with HG at 6 weeks. While I knew pregnancy was going to be tough, I'm sat here in floods of tears because I think I'm at breaking point. I'm so miserable. I feel sick 24/7, moving really exacerbates my sickness so I'm working from home in bed and doing nothing else, ever. If it's not sickness, it's not being able to eat a single thing, fighting headaches/migraines off or not being able to sleep.

I know I should feel so unbelievably grateful for this, I know but I don't. I actually hate this and wish I wasn't pregnant anymore which is an awful thing to say.

My husband is so supportive, so are my friends, work have been ok and I don't really have anything to complain about in those departments, but I'm on my own the majority of the day, working (which I hate, I just want to switch off work for this entire pregnancy) and I wish I felt ok again.

I miss walking, even doing basic home activities like cleaning (I'll regret thinking that in the future) but I hate this.

I was hoping that after week 16 the sickness and symptoms would subside, but nope, they're still here, every waking moment and I just want to tap out.

avacadooo · 27/11/2019 16:21

Hi,
I'm sorry I don't really know where to turn to but I know @lucindaE might be able to help.
I had my son 13 weeks ago and after the hg it's been fine I can move and eat but I haven't been able to shake the mental side of it.
Today I feel like I'm about to crack because my mil since having him is saying that I'll be having another in a couple of years, and I can't not have another one because it's not fair he'll grow up alone.
I'm gutted because I did want a second but my son is only tiny, dh and I have talked about it and agreed we can't go through it again because I put all the bills on him and there's no way I could be responsible for a child.
I'm sick of the comments about how she was sick with one but not her second and every pregnancy is different and now about him being a lonely child. She doesn't do this to my sil.
I'm also sick of being treated like a i was a drama queen through it and I really need to talk to someone who actually understands why I don't want another child.
It's already hard to process that I won't have two kids and that's something I was personally coming to terms with and working through but there comments are breaking me.
Sorry to hijack the thread but I have no one in real life that truly understands what I went through and I know my problems aren't as bad as all you guys still suffering with hyperemisis.

Melleebacca · 27/11/2019 17:10

@avacadooo oh that makes me grumpy! No one should ever push you into having kids or more kids. Please try and enjoy your wee one and eating ALL the food, and ignore ridiculous people. This is my 3rd, yes I’m crazy. But we made the decision for each child ourselves. I actually told my mil after each birth that there will be no more, and change my mind a year later, but that’s ok. And there’s nothing wrong with only having one. I have a friend who had hg till birth, and she’s so traumatized that she’s decided to only have one, and her one is so balanced and happy, and that’s all that matters.

@MarieMarie2019 I refer to pregnancy as my sickness. I actually refuse to tell people because I don’t want them being all happy about the fact I’m vomitting all day every day. It does change after the sickness fades, but I would recommend telling your gp how you’re feeling, and perhaps get a referral to mental health services. I had a counselor through my second pregnancy because I was so depressed.

@Dinosauraddict with my first I was signed off till 24wks. Then did phased return for 10wks before going on maternity. My work was very supportive, but I was also terrified of relapsing. I was sick up till 26wks. With my second, I wasn’t working so I was only sick till 16wks. Looking after a toddler and being sick was much easier than trying to manage working. You have to find the balance that works best for you.

@MrsH497 Definitely keep on top of the meds. Take new ones before you feel the old ones wearing off. Im so much worse if I take my ondansetron even half an hour later than I should.

Christmas shopping went well. I’m usually weak until noon, and then the sickness really flares up. I’m vomitting 3 times a day at the moment, which means nothing is really sticking from about 2pm. Still keeping ketones at bay, just.

LucindaE · 27/11/2019 17:12

Welcome back to advocadoo. People who haven't suffered, like female relatives, can be infuriating. Hyperemesis is a very traumatic experience. It can take a long time to get over it. I actually burst into tears pushing my daughter along the pavement in a pushchair when she was two, remembering how the nurses spoke to me when I had it come back briefly after birth (don't worry, everyone; that is very rare and only happens to a handful of people). I think you might be helped by speaking to a counsellor. You can see from that example that I woudl have been. If were to ring Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 and ask for advice on counselling services available, that might be a good idea. They will have to phone back but they will with good advic e. Also, try phoning your GP surgery to ask about counselling. The wounds do heal, but it can take time. I think it is a very underestimated medical area just how much women suffer from PTSD with this. Do tell us if you get good advice and keep in touch.
MarieMarie2019 Welcome. Sorry that you feel so down. Hyperemesis typically lasts longer than milder pregnancy sickness, so don't despair of an improvement. Sufferers generally get some relief between 14-21 weeks. Even those who suffer throughout generally feel a better later on compared to the terrible early weeks.
Are you on any meds? I am gladyour OH and other people are being supportive. The isolation is dismal, and concentrating on work must be a great effort. Everyone is very supportive on this thread. I have put some generic advice below for both in case it helps.
A good anti-acid can make a big difference. Try not to fret too much about the baby, they are effective parasites and tend to take all the nourishment, which is one of the reasons you feel so bad. So long as you can keep reasonably hydrated, they are unlikely to suffer. Some drinks and foods of a sort that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucozade, fizzy water, Elderflower water, Robinson's fruit drinks, fizzy orange, lemonade, Dr Pepper, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), 7Up, Iron Bru, soda water, ice cubes, chocolate milkshakes (maybe soya), cocoanut milk, orange squash and sips of orange juice if not too acid. Some foods of a sort: nibbles of chips and crisps, baked potatoes, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, Scotch pancakes and biscuits. It might be worth investing in some kesostix if you don't have them already as while they are not the best test of dehydration, hospitals do take them seriously. Otherwise, watch out for inelestic skin, ie skin that doesn't spring back when pulled, dark urine, headache, etc.
Dinoasauraddict It is definitely worth enquiring if they would give you steroids as a form of treatment.
MrsH497 I am glad to day is better.
abbs1 How are things? Excellent advice as ever.

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LucindaE · 27/11/2019 17:16

Melleebacca Cross posted! Great advice from you for advocadoo and MarieMarie20. I am glad your Christmas shopping is going well, but sorry to hear the actual vomiting continues.

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MrsH497 · 27/11/2019 17:30

Oh @LucindaE the amount of people who've told me to try ginger! I want to punch them! Luckily my DH is so understanding as is my family. You're so right people don't get it. Glad to read between 14-21 weeks is when HG suffers tend to get some relief

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