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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 23/07/2019 15:09

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Snipples · 04/10/2019 12:34

Hi all - sorry not posted in a while. I had the most horrendous toothache this week (kept me up in agony all night) and had to have a bloody root canal which was not fun. Dentist gave me antibiotics but they are absolutely huge and made me feel horrendous so I'm no longer taking them.

Re ranitidine- my doc said it's been recalled in the UAE so I can't have it anymore. It didn't make a huge diff to me anyway so not a massive big deal.

@yellow25 - if you're struggling to keep Ondanestron down you can ask for it in liquid form. That's how I take mine. Much easier than swallowing tablets as that makes me gag.

Hope you're all doing ok. 💐 to those who are struggling. It's a rough ride.

Catconfusion · 04/10/2019 16:28

Hey @Snipples that's interesting. My GP told me to continue taking Ranitidine despite the scare. I've cut down my use to absolutely necessary but it's the only thing that works.

It's good news from me. We just had our 12 week scan. Baby is doing brilliantly. I've been very ill this week and particularly today. After the scan it lifted. I'm wondering if the anxiety made it worse. Anyway now we wait for the combined test result. Did anyone on here get a high risk result? I heard sickness can mean higher hcg and a high risk verdict. I'm also 40 which I know can push the risk up. Xx

LucindaE · 04/10/2019 20:35

Oh dear, suffering all round!
Welcome to RachelC90. Sorry that you are suffering. To be so ill so early does seem like Hyperemesis. I hope they can give you effective meds. There are various ones they can try. An anti acid can make a big difference. Some drinks and foods of a sort that have helped many.
Ice lollies, flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, lemonade, orange squash, fizzy orange, orange jucie (if not too acid), Robinson's fruit drinks, fizzy water, soda water, tonic water, Iron Bru, Dr Pepper,
Elderflower water, Elderflower cordial and tonic water, ice cubes and sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya); nibbles of crisps and chips, baked potato, cuppa soup, slices of melon and mango, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, biscuits, jelly and tinned fruit. Rest if the best thing besides effective meds, but that can be difficult with two LO's. Are there friends or relatives who could help with the school run? Do invest in some kesostix to check for the early stages of dehydration; they aren't the best guide, but hospitals do take them seriously.
LE1991 Sorry you are still suffering. Take heart, most people get some relief between weeks 14 and 20 and there is sitll time for you to improve a lot again. Sorry to hear about sugar in urine, I hope that proves a false alarm. If there are more ketones in the urine when you see the GP and you have to have fluids in hospital they can help a lot.
I hope some of the tips for Rachel above might help. As the cyclizne doesn't seem to be helping, hopefully they can add some meds or sbstitute with something that does help. A good anti acid can make a big difference. On spelling and grammar, you message seemed fine to me! My typing is so sloppy my own spelling often looks awful.
Catconfusion I am a bit ignorant about modern tests I had one that give me a high risk result (I was 36, and got one with a risk the same as a woman of 44 , a 1 and a bit in 33 result, or some such)and had an amnio but I believe there are much less invasive testing procedures these days. I so agree tension makes symptoms worse. It is horrible waiting for results, though the odds are on your side.
abbs Try not to worry; no doubt the weight loss is the cause as Bol says.
Alice I am glad you are out of hospital, but really sorry to hear you don't feel a lot better for the fluids. Did they give you IV meds? Have they changed your meds now? I am glad you are signed off.
Snipples How awful - a root canal treatment. I am glad you survived it.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

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yellow25 · 04/10/2019 21:30

@Bol87 @Snipples and @LucindaE thanks ladies - will give potato skins a go over the weekend but will pester my consultant at my appointment on Tuesday. The only benefit of GD is the two week checks so I get to see people to pester more often ha!

And @Bol87 lovely to hear about your second little girl. I don't have another scan until the 29th and I'm the opposite, I can only picture myself with boys! I'd be more than happy with a girl though. I found finding out the gender a massive help last time suffering with HG, it helped me bond so much more.

@LE1991 sorry you are struggling. I'm about 16 weeks at the moment and just coming out of my worst - please God. With my first pregnancy it took until maybe 22/24 weeks for me to feel functioning again. I know people will have said this to you at like 10 weeks, but you really should now be coming to the end of the worst. Also, I have Gestational Diabetes (much to everyone's shock as I'm very small!) - and the worst part is actually the test as you have to fast and then drink a sugary drink. Ice cubes helped me slightly as you are allowed water. Don't feel weird about taking your sick bucket to the hospital with you, and I found bringing my partner along helped as I felt so queasy the whole morning I just didn't want to be on my own in the waiting room for three hours. Let us know how you get on. xxx

yellow25 · 04/10/2019 21:31

Sorry my last post seems to have bolded bits that aren't hold and not sure if it tagged everyone correctly?! Could just be my phone though.

@Bol87
@Snipples
@LucindaE
@LE1991

ElkieMacjibe · 05/10/2019 04:32

I haven't posted for a while but wanted to return to say my little boy arrived safely on 3 October by planned section weighing 4kg. This is the first day I haven't taken ondansetron since February! Was sick after the birth but only because the codeine didn't agree with me. Thank you so much Lucinda for this thread, it was an absolute lifeline to me. Best of luck everyone, hang in there you can do it!

LE1991 · 05/10/2019 08:32

@LucindaE and @yellow25 thanks for the tips I've tried a few but they never stay in long enough. Toast is the only thing that I can keep down for a while. The annoying thing is I didn't get any morning sickness with my little girl who is 2 and now noticing somethings not quite right with mummy. Since the doctors yesterday, I think I've only managed to keep in half a pint of summer fruit squash and some toast. I haven't had to go into hospital yet and hoping I don't have to but I'm worried I'm getting very dehydrated now. I don't want to keep pestering the doctors now that I've got more cyclizine so what do I do if I'm dehydrated? A and e? Midwife? I rang her yesterday and got through to the reception desk about the sugars and they didn't seem that bothered and said they'd pass the message on. How do I know if I need to go to hospital? This really sucks :( finding it hard to enjoy my pregnancy this time xx

LE1991 · 05/10/2019 08:35

@ElkieMacjibe congratulations on your little boy. Hope your labour went smoothly xx

yellow25 · 05/10/2019 11:29

@LE1991 did you have a break from the cyclizine and ondansetron?

With my first, I was only on cyclizine and as I was approaching 30 weeks I was running out of tablets. As I was feeling well enough I didn't get them re-prescribed, and so as soon as they ran out the vomiting started again - even worse than before! And then it took a couple of weeks for my body to get used to the cyclizine again. So just wondered if you stopped taking meds as you were feeling better, this might be why it's back with a vengeance?

I'm not going to risk running out this time round, I'll just take whatever I can right until the end!

Bol87 · 05/10/2019 14:08

@Catconfusion - my HCGb came back high on my combined tests. It was 3.9. My PAPP-A was normal and fluid fine. Put me as extremely low risk for E&P - 1 in 100,000! And low risk for Downs. 1 in 1,400. I felt a bit panicked re-the Downs as it seemed high compared to the E&P, but then realised its still very low risk! Hope all is OK with yours & so glad to hear your scan went well, it’s such a boost! The gender scan we’ve just had made me cry as it was 4D and you could fully see her looking like a tiny alien, waving & yawning!

Alice8688 · 05/10/2019 16:12

@ElkieMacjibe congratulations!! I hope you had a lovely Labour and birth 🥰
@LE1991 I'm the same re: foods. I'm surviving on cold toast with a thin layer of butter. And occasionally a thinner later of jam. Drinks all make me nauseous. Freezing cold lemonade works sometimes. It's all just so shit. Because I love food. And I'm constantly starving or barfing.

I think I need to go back to ondansetron as I'm on cyclazine and stematil. (As metaclopramide gave me Parkinsonism....literally cannot catch a fricken break). I hope everyone is doing well 💕 lots of positive thoughts. Xxx

LucindaE · 05/10/2019 19:25

ElkieMacjibe What happy news. Congratulations on your baby boy.
Smile Flowers Star Brew I am so glad that this thread helped you through the bad times, and thank you so much for letting us know about your happy outcome. Do call in whenever you have a minute - which won't be often.
LE199` Sorry to hear about your being dehydrated, as you probably are, if you have only had half a pint of liquid. If you haven't got kesostix to check the ketones - not as if they are the best sign of dehydration, but hospitals take them seriously - have you got scanty dark urine, a headache, blurred vision, dryj, inelastic skin and dry mouth or feel generally strange and vague? Those are all signs. As it is out of hours, going straight to A and E would be the best thing.
Bol I am glad the results came back fine.
Alice That is a good idea.
yellow25 That is great advice about the GD test.
Waves to all.

I must look up and alter the Due Dates list....

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LucindaE · 05/10/2019 19:27

LE1991 Sorry, that message for LE199' is for you! My awful typing, as I said.

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abbs1 · 06/10/2019 11:52

Hope everyone is surviving another day. I had two good weeks while on steroids and my other meds but taken a big step backwards since my steroids stopped and all the vomiting and nausea has hit me like a bus. I was worried it was too good to be true but I enjoyed it while it lasted. Looks like it's back to hospital tomorrow for me. Does anyone know when this will end? I'm 14 weeks 3 days now.

rosina38 · 06/10/2019 12:45

Hi everyone. I am not sure I can say I have HG yet as I haven't been to see the GP. but...

I'm currently 7+3 and the nausea and vomiting is gradually getting worse day by day. I'm feeling sick 24 hours per day. I say 24 hours because I'm waking in the night because I am either being sick or to be sick. Today i attempted to eat some breakfast but have brought that up and been sick 4 times since. I'm retching several times per hour and I barely managed to go to work last week. I've been in tears this morning because I feel so awful and it should be an exciting time.

I just called 111 and they weren't too helpful and said to phone my GP first thing tomorrow morning. I am a bit worried the GP won't take me seriously. I'm also a bit worried that I am just being pathetic and this is morning sickness that lots of women get and I need to get on with it. Just hoping for some words of advice on what to say to the GP tomorrow?

abbs1 · 06/10/2019 13:14

@rosina38 that definitely sounds like HG. I found gps not the most helpful so went to hospital to the EPU or A and E where they have people trained to deal with it. Definitely get some help as you will probably need medication and possible iv fluids due to dehydration.
Its awful but stay strong. You will probably need to be signed off work so get the gp to do that for you. Its debilitating suffering HG.

LucindaE · 06/10/2019 19:39

rosina38 Welcome. Sorry you are suffering badly. I so agree with abbsu1 do go to A and E, and you will need meds and to be signed off work for some time by your GP. On meds, a good anti acid can help a lot.
It is a good idea to buy some kesostix from a chemists to check for the dehydration, as while ketones in urine are not the best indicator A and E departments take them seriously. Some drinks that have helped others, and food of a sort. Flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cubes, Elderflower water, fizzy water, tonic water, soda water, Elderflower water and tonic water, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, lemonade, Dr Pepper, Iron Bru, 7UP, Robinson's fruit drinks, orange squash and sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya). Nibbles of chips and crisps, baked potatoes, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, tinned fruit, biscuits, slices of melon and mango and jelly.
abbs1 Sorry things are so bad. Great advice for rosina. Sorry to hear that you may have to go back in. Don't despair, things do get a lot better for most people somewhere between 14 and 20 weeks. Even those who suffer throughout almost never are as ill later on as they are at the beginning. Sorry to hear you had to come off steroids. Can they add nothing to help a bit more?
Here's the new Due Dates list.

Due Dates
TwoShades1 17 October
cattaxi 19 October
BlodwynBludd 16 November
Composed 30 November
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January
Ribenaberriesgowoo82 28 January
Marshmallow 1992 29 January
MumbleLumble 19 February
Katela18 22 February
Bray23 23 February
Twistsandcurls 3 March
yellow25 17 March
Bol87 18 March
Sprite25 29 March
Catconfusion 15 April
RaynorEsme2019 19 April
Moonstone12 1 May
Pastnowfuture 7 May

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abbs1 · 06/10/2019 19:59

@LucindaE steroids I think was the last option as they've tried all medication, injections , iv medication, everything and steroids were working but cant be on them long and just came to the end of them friday so 24hours after that the sickness started even with staying on my other medication. I'm so scared its gonna be hospital everyday again, drips, iv fluids and medication and back to home visits twice a day from the nurse for injections etc. I never thought pregnancy could be so hard!

LucindaE · 06/10/2019 20:03

abbs1 I so hope you get some relief soon. The home visits for rehydration sound really tedious, but better than having to keep going back for fluids several times a week. Can they set those up again?

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abbs1 · 06/10/2019 20:26

@LucindaE I will ask them cause I had a cannula in my hand and a little backpack with the fluids that carried round and they came twice day for iv medication, iv steroids, and injections and I felt great and then was on pill steroids and medication for 2 weeks and thought I was back to my normal self after being in hospital nearly every day for weeks on end but now the steroids have run out the anti sickness has stopped working and I'm back to vomiting and nausea all day and night.

Bol87 · 06/10/2019 20:50

Sorry to hear of more people suffering Sad

I’ve found GP’s really good. I think I’m lucky. My first pregnancy, I was diagnosed quickly and I swiftly worked my way up the meds. I had no problems getting ondansetron, my GP was really pro me taking and printed off reams if research on safety and went through it all with me! My second pregnancy, exactly the same except I was straight on ondansetron! They’ve been very proactive in getting me admitted to hospital and had me taking regular bloods to check all is OK. My advice would be to try see a younger doctor, my experience is they are much more clued up & less terrified of meds in pregnancy!

Rubbish about the steroids @abbs1 - I read a research paper on a lady taking steroids all pregnancy with the most severe HG and all was well.. is there any argument for a longer dose?

Bol87 · 06/10/2019 20:53

Here is the study of its of interest @abbs1

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4989783/

abbs1 · 06/10/2019 20:55

@Bol87 I'm gonna ask on steroids tomorrow as it's the only thing that's worked for me but I think they were hesitant to give them to me due to risks. Hoping the EPU can help in the morning. They've been really good and have all my stuff on file so that should help. Just really frustrated to be feeling so rubbish just when I thought I was finally getting better.

rosina38 · 07/10/2019 09:03

So I just had a call from the GP. Explained the symptoms and that I was concerned about dehydration. He said that is unlikely because in the period of 24 hours you are likely to keep something down. Anyway. He has asked I go in to the surgery with a urine sample at 10:30 and has said there are different medications that can be prescribed to me to help. Fingers crossed

abbs1 · 07/10/2019 14:16

@rosina38 9h that's good. Just be aware my ketones went from 0 to 4+ in 24 hours which is the most severe dehydration and I've just had to have fluids, steroids and stickiness in hospital so dont leave it too long to seek help.
@Bol87 back on home visits for week and iv steroids and anti sickness and injections and then will get pill form of everything and see how I go so thats good.

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