Where to put newborn during the day

[Maisey281]

Hey!
I'm looking at options for where to place baby during the day and could really use some advice

If I was to cover all bases it seems I need a Moses basket for sleep and some kind of rocker for awake time

Is there anything out there that does both? I don't mind buying what's needed but don't want too much unnecessary stuff either!

My other consideration is that we have a dog & most rockers are close to the ground which could be a pain keeping the dog away (although he's a very calm dog so I'm not even sure if this is a non issue)

The only item I have found that potentially does everything is the icandy michair with newborn pod. It seems the pod could be suitable for sleep and awake time but not 100% sure on this.

Thoughts would be gratefully received!!!

Make sure your pram has a decent carrycot which is suitable for overnight sleeping and use it indoors for daytime naps. That way if you go anywhere overnight baby will be used to the environment and can (theoretically!) sleep in there.

We've got a pram for day naps that's suitable for overnight sleep and a Hauck Beta Plus with newborn set for chillin'. Can be a floor height bouncer or bouncer attaches to high chair. Then it's just a regular high chair.

Please please please do not put your precious baby in any kind of contraption on the table or a work surface.
Babies move and kick, in ways you don't expect. I used to work collecting data on home accidents. Please please don't do it.

I don't think you need a Moses basket or a rocker at all. My babies all hated the Moses basket and it's not suitable with a dog.

We don't have a dog, but I had a nearly 2 year old when dc2 was newborn and put dc2 in a travel cot in the living room - would also work to keep a dog away unless it's an utterly insane untrained dog which shouldn't be in the same room as a baby anyway.

Didn't have a rocker, used a wrap sling a lot and didn't stay inside much.

Think it's ok to put bouncer on the table if

A) it's in the middle of a large table.

B) baby is nowhere near the flinging their upper body forward stage.

C) you're going to stay in the room keeping an eye constantly

D) theres no human, large cat or dog who might accidentally come in and knock them off.

Love the tiny 3 in 1. Have noted that!

I have 2 large dogs and I'm struggling to
understand why people are wanting to lift children up high away from them if the dogs are trained and friendly? Dogs should never be left in a room attended with a child anyway...?

This will be my first baby but I'm not concerned about them at all. They are so used to children and have been around babies rolling around on the floor and know to keep their distance 🤷‍♀️ they just aren't interested. Maybe I'm lucky.

Bouncer chair should never be on anything other than the floor

Hey do you have a cot already for little one?
If not the snuzpod is amazing it has an anti reflux setting so it can tilt)

It attaches to bed so easy for breast feeding or jf bottle feeding. Still great as can feed in bed and when they fall asleep slide into it and snuggle safely next to them.

And if you don’t need the reflux setting you can rock it.

The top part can be taken downstairs to use as downstairs sleeping ( as little one won’t be out of sight for the first few months )

Loved that I could take that and set up camp downstairs in the day with baby ... to at least change scenery ( within the first few weeks when going out is a full scale mission ... that bit gets easier with practice )

We have cats so putting anything on the table had little or no effect ... but I was/ am always with little one ... one cat is
Always out and the other follows me everywhere so I always know where she is / locked out of baby’s room / our room or downstairs room if I think I am not with baby ( not that that happens much)

We had a chair but he never looked comfortable in it as too upright.

Though I had a Velcro baby first 3 months ... but persisted with the snuz pod and it paid off / he got more relaxed as time went on ... my friends little one loved his chair and really did well with being put down and sleeping through the night from day one x x

The snuz pod lasts up to 6 months after that you will need a cot though but I think that’s slightly longer than Moses basket.

Every baby is so different though you may want to wait to see how your baby does in the first few days and then order what
You need on amazon / perhaps eye up a few options now so you have seen it in real life so you have an idea on back up plans.

Hope you get a chilled little sleeper like my friend , if you don’t then don’t worry 😉 it be a hard first couple of months but it does get easier ... and if you can ( this is something I only mastered far to late in the last couple of months ) get in on your babies nap!! As long as you have clean dry clothes for little one housework can be ignored ! ( again I struggled to ignore that to now I am more chilled but took time )

Good luck, having my little beauty is the best thing that ever happened to me there are no words for how amazing they are but if you feel overwhelmed at first ... honestly that’s fine too I didn’t have a clue what happened at first 😂😂

Someone mentioned bringing baby into the house in the car seat if asleep. Please don’t leave them to sleep in the car seat, it’s extremely dangerous

I had a bouncy chair, swing and a playmat for when ds was small. He only ever slept in his crib upstairs.

If floor is not an option then maybe you could

a) have baby sleep in the buggy; the lie flat bassinet to begin with

b) strapped to you in a sling (it is so practoval)

c) bouncer on the floor but shut soggy out of the room with a baby gate?

for the love of Jesus himself never ever put a bouncer on a table

Ps: i second the baby Bjorn bouncer; very “recliney” and easy as pie to assemble.

As others have said, don’t put bouncers etc on a table, it’s just too risky. I had two dogs with first DD and would put bouncer safely in playpen for peace of mind if I was pottering around out of sight, so it was safely on the floor but I knew dogs couldn’t make contact (in reality they always gave her a wide berth but the playpen stopped me worrying about the small chance they would lick/knock her).

*practical

*doggy

(I’m tired)

Why is it dangerous to let a baby continue to sleep in a car seat they've already been sleeping in? Surely if you're in the room with them nothing untoward is going to happen. I mean, obviously you wouldn't leave them in there overnight, but a few hours in the house, with you, during the day?! They're designed to be slept in for short periods, surely?

I thought parenting guidelines were neurosis-inducing enough when I had my pfb 13 years ago. The list of 'don'ts' ran to about 200 pages. Must be a full-length novel by now!

Amazing anyone survived at all pre-mumsnet.

RuffleCrow my eldest is 14 and even then the advice was not to leave them 8n a car seat for more than 90 minutes at a time. The position can affect their breathing. I used to do a 5 hour (if non stop) drive with dc1 and take 7+ hours or break the journey in a travel lodge because of stopping every 90 minutes to take her out of her seat, change nappy, feed, put her back in and drive on.

The it's amazing anyone survived pre Mumsnet is obviously meant to be factious, but obviously more babies did die of SIDS before current guidelines, people did less long car journeys in general too, but those who did often didn't use car seats - my parents strapped my younger siblings into the car in a carrycot using an ordinary seatbelt - obviously they'd have died in a crash, and they were also lying on their fronts...

Someone’s already mentioned travel cot

Get another mattress some of them are too hard, can be used as somewhere to sleep, somewhere to put baby gym, somewhere to plonk baby when you need a pee, keeps baby safe from toddlers and dog.

Didn’t stop DD2 getting hot on the head with a full beaker of milk right enough but that’s being a second born for you, by the time DC4 came along he loved being in the travel cot wat hing his sisters or being in the car seat being lugged along on school/nursery runs etc .

Also travel cot will do from newborn until they can climb out probably about 18 months

Why is it dangerous to let a baby continue to sleep in a car seat they've already been sleeping in? Surely if you're in the room with them nothing untoward is going to happen. I mean, obviously you wouldn't leave them in there overnight, but a few hours in the house, with you, during the day?! They're designed to be slept in for short periods, surely?

Apparently not. The position the baby is in restricts their airways, and a baby who has been in one for a long time will have lowered oxygen saturation levels. For young babies they are not designed to be slept in for a few hours, unless you have a lie flat seat.

We have a dog and we put dd in a swing when i needed to potter about. She was off the ground so safe from dog, but he could still go check she was ok as he likes to do.

A lot of the time she was on a blanket on the sofa between me and the dog

If you have space I would suggest buying a travel cot you can place the rocker/Moses basket/just the baby in (and lasts through toddler stage) to ensure safety from dog/keep safe once able to move. Whilst we all know about baby and dog safety you need a solution for when the door bell goes, phone rings, pasta boils quickly and it worked perfectly for us. Good for holidays too so cost effective unlike the unused Moses basket!

This is info about the study.
Recommends no more than 30 mins at a time for a newborn, and no more than 2 hours total in a 24hr period.

www.nhs.uk/news/pregnancy-and-child/warning-over-babies-sleeping-in-car-seats/

I feel like my second is ridiculously easy compared to my first but I still find the idea of putting them in a travel cot and them tolerating it just incomprehensible.
In arms most of the time and a sling.

Car seats are typically very upright (between 30-45 degrees) which tends to put little babies with floppy heads into the chin-on-chest position, which over time lowers their oxygen saturations. That's the thing they monitor with the little clippy thing on your finger when you're in hospital - hospitals will start getting concerned if a patient goes below 90%. If you get to 60% you need supplemental oxygen or your organs will start to shut down.

If it's dangerous why are car seats so steep? Crash protection, essentially. You can get car carrycots or lie flat car seats but none of them are as good as the ones which essentially catch the baby in a shell. So it's a compromise - in order to provide excellent crash protection to very vulnerable babies, they place those babies in a position which puts their airways at risk. The point of the compromise is that you're not likely to put babies in a car for hours and hours. Most car trips are under 20 minutes. So it's a managed risk, weighed up against crash protection.

Lowered oxygen saturations for a short period of time aren't especially dangerous, just like holding your breath won't cause you to faint. The problem is when it gets too low and/or continues for too long. So if you get ready to go out, put the baby in the seat while you get your coats, bags, older children etc (10 mins) travel in the car (15 mins), and then the baby's asleep when you arrive and you park and move the car seat to the pram/trolley (5 mins), go and do your shopping (2 hours), go back to the car (5 minutes), they fall asleep again on the way home (15 mins), you bring the sleeping baby into the house and they sleep for another hour, that's nearly four hours in the car seat and if their oxygen saturations were low for all of that time there's a serious risk there. Hospital monitors would have been bleeping with alarm far earlier but you wouldn't necessarily realise just to look at a sleeping baby.

It's rare but babies have died from this (it's usually reported in the news; baby car seat death is the search term) which is why they now recommend no more than 30 minutes for newborns (up to 4 weeks) and no more than 2 hours at a time for older babies. There is no "total 2 hours in 24 hours" limit though, not sure where that has come from. Oxygen saturations return to normal levels immediately on removing infants from a seat so you can safely take them in and out of it all day if you really want to as long as no period exceeds 30 minutes (or 2 hours if older).

The same problem and guidelines apply to ANY baby product which puts a small baby into the chin-on-chest position, which includes some bouncers and rockers.

Oh FFS I typed out loads explaining the car seat thing and then MN broke on me

Anyway there is no total 2 hours in 24 hours limit, where have you got that from? It's 2 hours in one go for babies older than 4 weeks.