Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

blii ive tried that but it doesnt seem to be working.

Not feeling like eating much today. And finally got hold of the MH midwives. Got an appt on Monday 2pm.

Ribenafruitsgowoo82 Pregnancy Sickness Support will advise you about depression, I am sure; do give them a ring. It goes with this anyway, and if you tend to depression anyway, it must be far worse.
TwoShades1 Wise words for ribinaberriesgowoo82. And I am sure the step kids will come in time to love you; you come across as lovable
bili I am sorry that you have the symptoms creeping back. You have every right to be fed up about it; it's not as if it is a competition about who suffers worst. Sorry, remind me what meds you are on? I hope the scan gives you a big boost.
DeadDoorPost I must admit, I never have tried to unbookmark pages, but am fairly bad at IT anyway.
HermioneKipper At least you will have two at once, anyway. I believe those who suffer from Hyperemesis with twins very likely wouldn't have got it with a singleton pregnancy.
Aplogies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Sorry everyone is feeling so rubbish.
I'm sick of feeling sick, I also have to lie down for hours after food now or it threatens to come back.
Got the added bonus of the worst back pain I've ever experienced that starts in the lower back on the left side and shoots down my leg meaning it's interesting to get dressed cause I can't put weight into my left side without screeching. To make it all better the gp won't see me until the 1st July and the midwife wouldn't answer her phone so looks like I'm stuck like this with two weeks of work to go!
Got my second antenatal class tomorrow and dreading it as the last time the midwife taking it was so rude and condescending towards everyone, does it look bad if I just don't go? It's only the feeding one and I feel like I'll be patronised during it by her for not wanting to try breast feeding.

Good news though the guy got found guilty of assault and armed robbery and will be sentenced next month but he's looking at a very long sentence especially as he put the witnesses through the trial!!!😁
Which also means my mh nurse is looking to discharge me too!
Minus feeling like shite I feel a weight has been lifted and I am free to live my life again!

Good news about the court case outcome avacado, I bet you feel amazing that’s all behind you now. That pain you mention sounds a lot like sciatica. Baby is probably pushing on your sciatic nerve. Horrible, but it does go once baby is out.
Thanks luncinda, I’m not taking any meds since February. I still don’t feel as bad as I did at the beginning so I don’t feel like I need meds yet. A good lie down helps at the moment.

Great to hear the stress of the case is now over avacadoo. Blii how far along are you now? I am down to one ondansetron atm
but want to see if I can wean myself off it completely.

Ribena how are you doing today? did you manage to get to the hospital at all?

Hope everyone else is doing better or what can be classed as better for hg x

sigh thrown up today after 2 bus journeys to get to my nan's. She's fine with me being sick in her garden instead of the toilet which is good as there's no way I'd have made it upstairs in time.

DH also has a job interview today so fingers crossed it works out. It would be perfect timing if he does get it.

And I've pulled a muscle in my foot, right at the bottom, teyin g to get out the shower. So I'm in agony from that. I don't even know what happened, but there we go.

avocadoo I am so glad that court case is over. Sorry you are suffering such pain and having to work. I do hope the midwife answers the phone soon. An Osteopath or Chiropractor (never know how to spell that) could put it right in a session if my own experience is anything to go by, but they are so expensive.
DeadDoorPost I am glad your grandmother didn't mind your having to be sick in her garden. Two bus journeys is a lot with Hyperemesis.
bili I am glad a lie down helps. Some sufferers who've stopped taking meds find that they have to ask their doctors if it is OK if they resume taking them in the last tri if things get worse. I hope yours stays bearable with rest.
composedGood that you've been able to reduce your meds.
I hope everyone is coping today.

Well ladies, I'm just looking at the photos from the wedding I went to and I have to say, I can't tell if I'm happy with how I look or not.. And I also can't tell if I look 6.5 months pregnant? What do you think?

DeadDoorPost You look lovely. I am slightly built myself, and you look smaller than I in my old photos at that stage...

Disappeared again, sorry! It’s these latter stages, just getting more tired and slow.

I have no wise words to add Ribena but I am wishing you the best

avacadooo That’s great news on the trial, what a relief! I wouldn’t worry about the antenatal classes, they’re not compulsory anyway. I only went once, in my first pregnancy. Didn’t find it particularly helpful; I’m sure they vary a lot by area, mine seemed heavily focused on breastfeeding (which I can’t do for medical reasons), midwife led birth (refused to discuss consultant led even though there was a possibility I’d end up there!) and a bizarrely long amount of time dedicated to bathing a baby I can’t imagine they’d care if you didn’t go, but if they did mention something it’s not like you actually learn how to give birth and care for a baby there! It’s just one route for receiving information that you can also get elsewhere (eg online, YouTube etc).

DeadDoor hope all goes well for your DH’s interview. You look very similar to me in your photo, and we’re at a similar stage of pregnancy. I feel massive were you wondering whether you look small or big? I realise that some other women look much bigger than me, but it’s a lot to do with uterus placement and stomach muscles and such. I was the same in my other two pregnancies, I just seem to have a uterus which is lower and further back than those other women, and apparently I have quite strong stomach muscles (not that I thought I did, I certainly don’t have abs or anything! But I walk a lot so perhaps have developed a stronger core over the years...). So if you were thinking small, it might be like me, that you carry slightly lower and further back. I’ve never had the absolutely massive, sticking out a mile or high up bump type of pregnant belly, but I measure right for my dates and babies have been average/good size. You look lovely, and happy! Also your (DH, I’m assuming?) has an awesome belt

Starting to feel the aches, just about 30 weeks so I suppose to be expected! Especially under my bust/top of ribs. Remembering now how frustrating it is to not be able to bend over! Had a fairly active day for me (took DC2 to nursery, then DH and I took DC1 to a cafe as no school today, then we did nursery pick up and I did a fair bit of cooking). Resting in bed right now whilst DH and BIL are catching up downstairs. Trialling less medication, have been taking 2 instead of 3 tablets daily for a couple of days as I was feeling a bit better and so far is fine. Still need them but not the full 3 currently. Baby moves so much I feel like I’m being stretched from the inside

@DeadDoorpost I love your dress! I also like Dh's belt!!

@beforeIhit30 yeah we ended up not going, my back was too sore after limping about work and I had a tactical spew before which hurt it more and dh has an ear infection so wouldn't have heard anything 😂
I just feel like it would have been a massive waste of my time to sit and listen to her patronise us while being forced to sit in an uncomfortable seat!

@LucindaE I wish I could afford a chiropractor but I can barely pay my own bills at the minute 😫 but I did treat myself to some deep heat pads 😂

before Thanks, yeah I feel like I'm smaller in photos than in real life. I know I feel big sometimes, and I'm measuring a week ahead at the moment, but that could be because I still have quite a bit of weight to lose after last pregnancy.

avocadooo Thanks, it's from ASOS

Composed I am now 32 weeks. I stopped taking my ondansetron quite early on because it didn’t work for me and my doctor wouldn’t let me mix it and try a combination of pills to find out what would help. Which is why I always say on here now it’s trial and error until you find a combination that works, it’s different for everyone. I was too weak to argue at the time and just accepted defeat. I also couldn’t handle the constipation that came with the ondansetron.
Hope your husbands interview went ok deaddoor. Hope your foot is ok?
Before, that’s good you have lowered your end intake and beef fine. Fingers crossed it stays that way.
I had my growth scan yesterday. Baby is growing on his line still, he’s still below the average line on the growth chart but the consultant is happy with his growth and he is moving loads, happy baby. They say he’s around 3lbs according to the scan.
The scan tech couldn’t take a head circumference measurement because his head is sooooo low. The midwife keeps commenting on how low down his head is too. I wonder why he’s so low. When I lay on my back and my bump basically disappears I can see exactly where he is, I’m sure my womb isn’t even above my belly button. Belly button up my stomach is flat. It looks very odd indeed.

Thanks everyone. Had a weird couple of days. I actually stopped taking my meds and on Tuesday and by yesterday I started to feel better. We now think i had a reaction to the cyclizine. I'm still not eating 3 meals a day but I'm not retching all the time and I feel a little more human. I eat 1 sandwich a day. My mood is a lot better too. I've lost 8lbs in as many days which is no bad thing

Ribena That is encouraging.
bili It's good that the consultant is satisfied with the growth.
advocadoo I hope the heat pads work.
DeadDoorPost That is fascinating, given that we are supposed to gain over a stone in photos. But I have noticed myself that some people seem to photograph slimmer than in real life; I've never understood it; maybe it is due to proportions, or something?
beforeihit30 It doesnt sound as if those ante natals have changed much since I attended, so long ago...There was a massive pressure to breast feed, which isn't fair on anyone who has a reason not to...
Waves to composed and everyone...

@Ribenaberriesgowoo82 Glad things are a bit better
@Blii good news on your growth scan. Wow 32 weeks is exciting - not too long to wait now
@DeadDoorpost pic from the wedding looks great. I think your bump looks v neat! And great dress.

I’m currently looking like I’ve been dragged through a hedge backwards as I haven’t dried/straightened my hair after washing it in about 2 months, wearing no makeup and going round in leggings. Had to pray I wouldn’t run into anyone I know at the hospital!

But in good news the scan went well yesterday, both twins growing well with strong heartbeats. One very slightly bigger than the other but apparently that’s normal. But all so far so good. Just waiting on screening results now - more things to be anxious about!

Twin news still not sunk in although nice sonographer said that was totally normal and I’d get there.

Anyone else on fragmin injections? I’ve been on them for a month now and the bastards are so stingy. I’ve come to dread the time of day when my husband comes along to do them.

I’m also missing normal food so much. The only things I’m eating are crusty bread rolls and tinned fruit cocktail at the moment. I love food normally and really enjoy cooking so I can’t wait until I can have a big feast once this awful sickness is over.

I think I’m feeling very slightly better. I think partly since I’ve upped my dose of ondansetron but I don’t feel quite as like death warmed up as before. I managed to sit downstairs and watch tv the other night for an hour which I haven’t done in ages so taking that as progress!

Don’t blame you for not going avacadooo!

DeadDoor it sounds like all is well with baby’s growth, and you look well, that’s the main thing (I would say feeling well but it’s so variable with HG!)

Thanks Blii and that sounds great, that baby is happy and moving loads

Ribena so unfortunate to react to the like that, but, it’s great that you’ve identified that and are feeling a little better now, so good to hear some improvement. Will you be offered different medication?

Lucinda indeed, I totally understand that there will be a focus on things like breastfeeding and expected that, especially with BF rates being so low, as far as I understand there isn’t a medical reason why they can’t be higher (as in when they rate is so very low, it’s not because the majority are unable to BF), so I appreciate why the efforts are made, but it’s when I was in those sessions and asked things at the end like “So what is the guidance for preparing formula?” there was lots of “Oh don’t think about that, most people can BF...”, despite my explanations it was still dismissed! So in the end it felt a bit pointless to be there. The same about midwife led birth, in fact with DC1 I did go to the birth centre, long story short I haemorrhaged and was moments from being whisked to theatre but thankfully they were able to manage it (lots of shouting and running!) and overall I was fine, but it was hard, I felt out of it for days, and my notes now say I’m to have labour ward births only!

Hermione not during pregnancy but I have to be on fragmin for 6 weeks after birth, it’s one of my least favourite bits! It’s so stingy and I get really bruised! I tend to go for the thighs and alternate in different patches to spread it around a bit. DH started off doing them for me but in the end I found it worse, he’s more than capable (he’s had to inject himself with other medication plenty of times in the past), it was just easier to deal with when I just went “Right, I’m doing it”, cleaned the area and jabbed myself quickly. It almost felt like there was a build up with DH doing it, even though he was very good about it! I found rubbing the area well afterwards helped with the stinging a bit, and the bruising.

HermioneKipper Glad all is well with the twins! I can imagine why it might be hard to sink in.That does sound a dull diet; I hope you are able to extend your food range soon! I am sure you look far better than you think you do.

beforeihit30 I know what you mean. I had to stop breastfeeding at five months as I was one of those rare unlucky people (I've come across the greand total of six in ten years of threads) where the hormones set off the Hyperemesis symptoms. It improved a lot from the first awful couple of weeks but it always made it difficult. No doubt the ante natal midwife would have been shocked. Sorry to hear of stinging injections.

I've got my MH appt in 2 hours so I'm hoping I'll be able to work things out. I don't know if I should mention about the lacknof meds from the Drs now or not?

Hi dead I would mention it and told my midwife about my battle in getting them. If there’s anyway they can help I’m sure they will try and for me it was a cause of further anxiety that I really didn’t need.

Good luck with the app hope it all goes well x

Thanks composed I'm just not feeling too good which doesn't really help.

DeaddoorPost I hope the MH appointment went well.
composed How are things?
Very quiet on here at the moment. I hope this is a good rather than a bad sign. [sceptical]

Deaddoorpost how did the app go?

Hi Lucindae sorry just been keeping my head down these past few days, had a horrid bile vomit this morning after 2 weeks of nothing ugh. I’m off my meds now and it had worked so far so going to take today as a bit of a blip and see what happens tomorrow. Have run out of something I want to drink tho which is proving hard as I still cant stomach water or stand the sight of it, how are you Lucinda?

How is everyone else? I have to try washing my hair tomorrow oh the joys of how everyday normal things become something similar to scaling up mount everest with hg.

Ribena how are you these days?

Hi all, I've not had a very good day today, I decided to try a day without the metoclopramide as I was wondering if it was that making me so sleepy but I've vomited 3 times today and slept a lot of the day so back on it now. I'm just so fed up of feeling weak and exhausted and unable to cope with anything. It's so debilitating. Now we've announced the pregnancy I've got everyone asking all the time how I'm feeling and whilst it's nice that they care, I'm getting fed up of saying I don't feel at all well. Everyone seems surprised with how bad I'm feeling which highlights how bad HG is. It's my DH's brother's wedding in a couple of weeks and I should be really looking forward to it but instead I'm dreading it, I just don't know how I'm going to cope all day.

Hope you're all managing in the heat, it always makes me feel worse when I get too hot. Sending everyone well wishes x

The appt went really well. I should be getting help with medication for both the sickness and the depression so that's good.