Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

I’m so sorry to hear you’re suffering so badly @Ribenaberriesgowoo82 What meds are you taking? I’ve found nothing touched my sickness except ondansetron. And I only got that after being in the hospital. Perhaps you could go in to get fluids at the hospital (which also help a little), ask for ondansetron and it might help you feel a little better?

Also say that you’re considering a termination - they have to offer all treatment plans before you have to take that step. I hear steroids can also really help. But they’re usually last resort.

Sending hugs and

Also if docs won’t help, call maternity triage about your ketostick reading and tell them just how awful you feel.

(I know technically you shouldn’t have to lie but tell them your reading is 4 plus as they’re stupidly strict at my maternity triage. My consultant said it was ridiculous and had a row with them to get me fluids when I was 3 plus. Sounds like you’re close to 4 plus anyway).

Hey Ribena so sorry to hear you are having such a horrible time again it seems, would you be able to ask your gp for diff meds if the ones you’re on atm aren’t working? Sounds like you need IV fluids too with the ketone readings I hope they can refer you asap or you can just present at a&e?

We all know on this thread how horrid hg so you will fond support here no matter what x

We just found out today we are expecting another little girl . Trying to let it sink in and can’t wait to tell my dd. Hope everyone else is having a better day today than yesterday

My reading IS now 4+ so I wouldn't be lying. Dr has referred me but I now have no childcare available. My child doesn't know I am pregnant and the fluids normally take hours. Last time i was admitted overnight and I cant let that happen this time and it will if I turn up this late.

I have forced myself to eat and now I am just staying dead still so I dont bring it up. Am hoping cheese and crackers will be enough to bring ketones down.

Congrats Composed

Yes the fluids do take hours unfortunately. Last time I went in I got there at 3 and was out at about 10. Is your partner available to look after your daughter?

It sounds like you do need to get some fluids, is there definitely no one who can help out with childcare?

I have a 2.5 year old so I do understand how difficult it can be to juggle with childcare. My husband had to come home to look after our daughter and then I caught a cab home from hospital (poor cabbie with me and my sick bucket) as it was after she’d gone to bed by the time I’d got home.

Congrats on your news @composed! How lovely!

Hope your scan goes well @ClareDB. Hopefully seeing the baby will help make you feel a little better.

I have an appointment with the consultant this afternoon but don’t think there’s anything else she can do now as I’ve exhausted all the drug options aside from steroids. Am hoping she can write me a letter or similar as my work occupational health are saying i need to go in for a meeting. If I could come to a meeting I’d be at work! I still feel so nauseous but at least the vomiting/retching is down to a minimum.

I have my scan on Friday - originally was supposed to be yesterday but since twin news had to be swapped to a double appointment. Also feeling nervous!

My partner isn't their dad and unfortunately won't sleep if I'm not here. They're 10 old so should no better but that's another stressful thread. Anyone know how long after food my ketones should improve?

Thanks everyone x

Scan went well, they've moved my due date to Christmas Day! That's 2 less days of sickness to deal with! It was so good to see the baby looking healthy and wiggling around after these awful 9 weeks. Congrats on the girl news @composed!
@Ribena so sorry you're struggling so badly, this illness really is the pits isn't it 😥

Ketones improved although have been straining so much I have blood in bile now.

Ribena are you keeping any fluid down at all? What meds are you on?
With persistent vomiting it's unlikely that your meds have stayed down. I would really try to go in, it's beyond shit but they should be able to give you IV medication which helps.

I was in your exact position 4 weeks ago, utterly devastated that I'd purposefully got myself pregnant again. I was incredibly close to asking for a termination. It is an option but it isn't the only option. I'm still struggling but I am mentally in a better place. I can't work out how to private message you but please ask anything and take any support you're offered.

Cyclizine and ranitidine. They worked for literally a day and haven't really worked since. The doctor has given me a script to try something else, begins with P i think.

Fluids kinda staying down but I'm constantly spitting up even if not being sick.

Mentally I am screwed. I hate this THING doing this to me. I want to cry all the time and I don't even like going down stairs. I am developing agoraphobia.

@Ribenaberriesgowoo82 cyclizine is the first thing they offer you - but I think most of us have found it didn't really touch the nausea. Is the new medication prochlorperazine? If it is, check if it's one of the ones you can take at the same time as cyclizine - taking two medications at once can be a lot more effective than just one. Have you spoken to pregnancy sickness support?

I'd really try and get in - it's amazing you much more effective ondensatron and metaclopramide are than the stuff the GP will initially prescribe. Really hope you feel.better too.

Ribenaberriesgowoo82 Welcome back. Sorry you are suffering so badly. Don't despair; things improve a lot for almost everyone after the first terrible tri; you have already had good advice about going in for fluids, and with such a level of dehydration you need fluids urgently. Also, if you explain to the hospital how you don't wish to have a termination but cannot cope with this level of sickness they may be able to work out an effective treatment plan, as putputput says. As you have been on before I am sure you remember my spiel about flat coke, the juice of tinned fruit, ice lollies etc. The advice of others to phone Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 for advice - they will have to phone back, but they will, - is great advice.
putputput How are things? Great advice from you, HermioneKipper and everyone. HermioneKipper I do hope that work can sort something out with you without your having to go in. Good luck for appointment.
composed Congratulations on your girl.
Claredb Your baby is in the best of company with that birthdate. . I'll add that to the list.
Waves to Teddyreddy and everyone.

Due Dates
Nighttimenope 13 July
evuscha 26 July
emma 4 August
CalmerComber 5 August TWINS!
Teddyreddy 9 August
advocadoo 11 August
canonlyhope 13 August
Bili 16 August
Hairgician 16 August TWINS!
norbert 26 August
beforei hit30 3 September
stroen 4 September
DeadDoorPost 8 September
1Potato 8 September
MoonKid 1 October TWINS!
ElkieMacjibe 12 October
TwoShades1 17 October
cattaxi 19 October
BlodwynBludd 16 November
Composed 30 November
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!

Ribinaberriesgowoo82 Sorry, that was a mistype, I meant 'the first dreadful bit', not tri.

Congrats on the girl composed!

Sorry you're having a rough time ribena I hope you get things sorted. I honestly don't know how I've managed to cope this second time.

Anyone know how to unbookmark a post? It's driving me crazy

I bow down to you and all the ladies who’ve braved HG a second time (or more) round @DeadDoorpost. If I’d has this first time round I don’t think there’s any way I could’ve done it again despite really wanting more children. Women really do amaze me

Poor poor you @Ribenaberriesgowoo82 This really is the most beastly thing I’ve ever experienced. You’re at such a hard stage too. I really think you need some stronger meds. My consultant told me if cyclizine doesn’t work in 48 hours then it’s not going to do it for you. I think you need Ondansetron/metaclopromide ideally. And even better when they’re in IV form - I found
much more effective. Any way you can go to triage first thing tomorrow and explain about childcare and get them to hurry it up? If you’ve been referred they should see you.

Ribena I know the other ladies have given some great advice. I just wanted to come on to say a couple of things. Firstly I deliberately choose to get pregnant and struggled with a lots of thoughts about why on earth I did it! You mentioned a termination, which I can certainly understand if you feel that’s the best option for you. However you did say you choose to get pregnant and whilst it probably seems like the stupidest decision ever right now, I would say maybe try and stick with it. I just thought of it as writing off the whole year. I basically just told myself that 2019 was done for me and whilst obviously I will have a baby in October to perk me up the rest of the year will be remembered as shit.

Secondly if you need to go to hospital and have a partner that can be with your kids, just do it. I’m a step mum and my step kids certainly don’t love me like they do their dad but sometimes I need to look after them. They are 8 and 10 so I just think of it as making sure their needs are met (feeding them, making sure they have clean clothes, etc). At the end of the day does it matter if they don’t want to sleep while your not there? Can they just sit up on the couch and watch a movie or play iPads in bed? It’s not the end of the world if they have one night of less sleep. You don’t have to tell them your pregnant just say it’s a very bad tummy bug.

Thank you. It's not just the sickness, it's the depression. This will only get worse when a baby is here. I am so low and lost. I made a big mistake.

So sorry you’re feeling so rough Ribena, definitely talk to someone. The pregnancy sickness hotline and also your doctor, they will put you to the right people regarding the depression. It sounds like you need some professional help. We are always here too.

Deaddoor, does it not work when you just click the bookmark button again. It unclicks it for me.

I feel bad that I’m writing that I’m not feeling good when others are clearly suffering a lot more. I do the school run and get back into bed and don’t get much else done. I feel like the nausea is creeping back with 8 weeks to go. I just do the bare minimum and I feel like the flat is getting messy and dirty again. The bathroom needs cleaning but I just can’t face it.
I have a 32 week growth scan tomorrow so I’m looking forward to that. I also have a consultant appointment straight after so I shall speak to her about the nausea and tiredness. I’m sure it’s just normal pregnancy tiredness but I’m actually finding it hard to function.
Anyway, I hope everyone is getting by ok.