Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

@beforeIhit30 you're so lucky to be offered an induction, my batshit midwife told me she wouldn't consider it until 42weeks 😖 think it's because I moaned that I mentally can't cope with going over and that she's a raging psycho who told me I need to walk off my sickness when I complained of feeling sick last time cause the building was so hot. Pretty sure she's bullshitting me though because that can't be safe for me or the baby but she's also ignoring the fact I'm measuring small and tested someone else's urine thinking it was mine.

My sickness has come back with a vengeance but now it's impossible to get it up without causing myself serious pain because of the bump.
Does anyone else just lie down constantly and sleep most the day this late on? Constantly exhausted to the point I don't think it's normal and I can't eat anymore because I feel so sick/full.

I can't remember who said they were struggling with their anxiety but I highly recommend going to your gp and getting referred to a mh nurse! Having someone real that I didn't know personally helped me massively, it was a comfort being able to rant about how shit I felt and not feel judged about anything.

I'm off to try to get some sleep even though my room is a million degrees and I feel like I'm gonna wet myself because the parasite is using my bladder as a pillow.🙄

You sound like you're having a really tough time @avacadooo I hope your room has cooled down and you've got some sleep. Sickness returning sounds awful, I don't know how on earth I'd manage. Fingers crossed for a better day for you x
@beforeIhit30 the 6 week count down is keeping me sane! I'm hoping I won't go over as childcare will be a huge issue and I'm relying on my dad to be our back up and get here quickly, but he's always late 😂 it sounds like your plan is the best all round for everyone which is great x

advocadoo I am sorry that the sickness has come back badly. That does seem to happen to some unlucky sufferers. This mugginess today must make it worse. That midwife sounds hopeless, oh dear. Good advice for ClareDB over anxiety.
beforeihit30 I am so glad your LO's are easy to look after - my brother, whose autistic spectrum too, was anything but.
norbert Good for your father.

@norbert23 @LucindaE thanks, luckily I live in Scotland so it's not as hot as it is for some of you guys, find myself sleeping from 4am-12 or later in the afternoon when the flat doesn't feel like an oven!

I've been sick twice today which hasn't happened in quite a while so feel proper rough, I have no idea how I'm going to cope with birth if I struggle with this. I want my body back now because I'm fed up, told dh if I ever think I want a second he better get us a dog 😂 I don't know why I didn't just get a beagle in the first place as it would have been less hassle!
Sorry to be so negative I just feel like an utter turd but on the plus I found prochloperzine at the bottom of my bag so popped two and managed a bit of pasta!
Hope everyone is feeling less sucky than I am!💕

Can't keep up with thread as phone doesn't load it properly.

Just wanted to recommend the pregnancy sickness support line. They were so kind to me yesterday and my doctor Gingered me.

Just popping by to check in from the pink castle folks..
Baby boy born last week at 38+4 after they induced me due to his large size. He was 8lb 11 so I’m glad I didn’t go to due date or over (I’m just 5”2!). The labour was long but all the way through I just felt.. it’s going to be over soon. The triggers, the spitting, the drooling at night, the repulsiveness of DH..
And it is over! I still have problems with my pelvis, and diluting juice and lasagne remain unpalatable.. but I now have a warm soft bundle of squish to help me ‘forget’ all that went before.
Apologies for not staying in touch. The hyperemesis experience is still raw and even reading the posts of some of you poor sufferers brings it all back. Praying for you all in the thick of it- it’s the hardest thing we’ve dealt with as a family and it’s changed us forever. But so have each of the children. When they’re older they’ll know a but more of the cost involved in their arrivals.. and hopefully one day there’s a cure for this torture!

Got another antenatal clinic appt at the hospital today. I'm going to have to make sure I take my meds with me as it's a bus journey away, but they've also asked me to bring them with me so they can see what I'm on I guess.

DS for the last 2 days now has been doing some really sludgy, horrible smelling nappies and they've not helped me, especially this morning. Feeling as sick as ever. I'm blaming it on the weetabix DH fed him the other day.

Oh, missed your post, congratulations @Nighttimenope !!

Congratulations @Nighttimenope!

Sorry you are struggling so much @avacadooo , I find struggling to sleep makes everything so much worse.

How did your appointment go today @DeadDoorpost?

I found out yesterday my GTT was positive. I'm seeing the diabetes midwife to get set up with blood testing later in the week but until then she has given me diet advice. So far it's been a bit of a fail - cutting carbs makes me feel nauseous and despite increasing my antinausea medication I've been really struggling to drink. I'm back at +++ ketones despite eating plenty of protein and fats today.....

Nightimenope Congratulations on your bundle of joy. How lovely to hear from you with such happy news. [smile[
Thank you so much for coming on to encourage people. That is a hefty baby, paticularly for a small woman. I am so pleased for you.
Teddyreddy I am sorry about that. I hope someone can help you to work something out that balances things. As you are dehydrated, can you get fluids as those are the sort of levels of ketones they take seriously in A and E?
Ribena I am so glad Pregnancy Sickness Support helped you. It's a bit awful that a doctor gingered you. You do expect doctors to know better than that!
advocadoo I think one feels that way at times! But I hope I am not being annoying when I say that it will all be worth it, it really will.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Teddy it went really well! Consultant is bypassing the GP so I don't need to go to them for meds, I can go straight to the hospital!

DeadDoorPost I am glad the consultant is supportive about medication. I am really sorry, I have got mixed up about your meds situation. I am being a muddle head. I know that you were on Ondansetron throughout for your last pregnancy, so it's really bad if they were unsymapthetic at the GP's. Did they start refusing them, or is this for other meds?
I see we will need a new thread in a couple of days.

Congratulations Nighttimenope!
Such lovely news. And thats amazing the spitting stopped! I’m so worried my extra saliva won’t stop after delivery, so that’s reassuring.
Only one and half days left of school now. Cannot wait. It’s bitter sweet though, I feel like I missed out a lot on my youngests nursery year as I was absent for a lot of their various things they do for parents to come in and watch and I feel like I’ve just been wishing the time away. Now he’s actually finishing nursery I feel quite emotional about it. I will pick him up and dash out of there as quick as I can on Friday! Otherwise I’ll be bawling my eyes out all over the place.
There will be a lot of changes for him, starting primary school and a new baby is a lot for a 4 year old. My husband is pushing to get rid of his dummy too. I know he shouldn’t have it at 4 years old but it’s his only comfort, he isn’t close to any of his teddies. So it’s going to be very hard when we decide to go down that road.
Anyway, I’m blabbing away. I hope everyone is doing ok. I have my final scan on Friday so will update then. My bump still isn’t above my belly button, when I get a braxton hicks contraction you can see exactly where the baby is. Very strange, but I guess I must just carry low.

Bili Ah, that is a shame, that you have missed out on the fun. But tough as things have been for LO, you couldn't give any child a better gift than a sibling. He will soon forget this period of comparative neglect, from all that I have heard on these threads. I have known four year olds with dummies who gave them up easily enough when the time was right.

Thanks Lucinda, neither children seem very excited about a sibling. They live in the moment though, their brother isn’t here yet so they don’t know what all the fuss is about. I’m sure when he comes along the older ones will be excited and forget about when Mummy was boring and had to lie in bed most the day.
It’s been very quiet on here the past few days, I do hope everyone is ok?
I had my scan today, the baby has dropped off the chart slightly so they want me back in 2 weeks to scan again. If he’s dropped further then they will induce me. So this baby could potentially be here in two weeks. Although scans can be very much wrong with their weight estimates, they say this baby is weighing 5lbs4oz at the moment. Bigger than my first at birth full term so that’s good

Good news, Bili!

Now that lovely Nighttimenope is in the Pink Castle at the end of the Hyperemesis Horror Experience, here is the latest Due Dates list.
Due Dates
evuscha 26 July
emma 4 August
Teddyreddy 9 August
advocadoo 11 August
canonlyhope 13 August
Bili 16 August
Hairgician 16 August TWINS!
norbert 26 August
beforei hit30 3 September
stroen 4 September
DeadDoorPost 8 September
1Potato 8 September
MoonKid 1 October TWINS!
ElkieMacjibe 12 October
TwoShades1 17 October
cattaxi 19 October
BlodwynBludd 16 November
Composed 30 November
ClareDB 25 December
HermioneKipper 27 December TWINS!
putputput 9 January

Hi all was hoping to join but the thread is so packed I don't know where to start, I haven't the energy to read it all!
I'm ten weeks, sick since 5, last week I gave in and admitted things were worse than my first pregnancy, which to be honest was bad enough. I got taken in and put on a drip prescribed cyclazine for 3 days and then cariban. I have searched the thread for cariban but no one seems to be on it.
It's a strong antihistamine with vitamin b in it which is used on the continent and is not licensed as an antiemetic here (ireland) but is being prescribed by the maternity hospital.
Would that sound like a similar drug to anything in the UK? I'm just so tired on it and wondering if that's the drug or just early pregnancy exhaustion. I'm barely functioning and due back in work on Monday

weshould if it's an antihistamine then it sounds similar to cyclizine. My DF might know. He works alongside medical staff.

Interesting so I was on two antihistamines for a few days, no wonder I slept through most of it!

Aww Nighttime congratulations!

Blii I’ve felt similar, I’ve been able to keep up a bit more with my 6yo as he comes to tell me stuff whereas my 4yo I feel like I haven’t been as present and he moves to Primary in September too (a week after my induction so it’s all going to be a bit busy ) and of course 6yo will be starting his new year at the school too). I did make it to his leavers concert at nursery though which was sweet.

WeShould welcome, and sorry you have to suffer but you’re in supportive company here at least!

Got my induction booked in (thought I had to wait until next month for that so I’m pleased to have the date). I do feel very fortunate advacadooo and I wouldn’t have thought to ask, I had my first two at a different hospital which was considered very good and it was anti most elective procedures (for CS, induction etc) so I just thought you couldn’t request these things. It was my consultant who spotted I’d had an induction before (due to being overdue) and tentatively explored how I felt about induction (told her it was awesome ) and then she told me I was able to request it. Given my own medical history, experience this pregnancy and previous births, and home circumstances she thought I might prefer it and I’m so grateful she let me know I had that choice (and that this hospital allows it in the first place). I’ve had good care throughout, thankfully, but I honestly think that was the best appointment of my whole pregnancy.

I’m so achey now I’ve been getting bad reflux (just at night), I have a nerve problem which means I can’t sleep on my left side (only in pregnancy! Fine the rest of the time!), but sleeping on the right increases reflux likelihood. It’s been gross waking up in the middle of the night choking on acid and spitting it out everywhere, I have to sleep on a big towel. GP prescribed me some omeprazole to help, I’m on Gaviscon Advance already, and I bought a foam wedge thing to elevate myself. Good news is it’s all working to manage the reflux episodes, bad news is that I don’t think I’m going to feel vaguely comfortable in bed now until this baby arrives! Sleeping on an incline is not exactly natural to me so I wake up more regularly during the night, I ache more, so I’m more tired during the day. Plus the baby just seems to be all in there, she moves so much (which is great of course), but she really goes for it, and my stomach is quite solid - not in the sense that I’m super fit, haha, but as if she is quite far forward, and takes up all of my belly, so basically it’s nigh on impossible to feel comfy no matter what I’m doing. Had MW appointment earlier this week and she even commented saying, “Wow, it’s all baby!”. Baby is measuring average, it’s just like she’s positioned to take up all of the room Unfortunately this is no reflection on my weight gain, I primarily gain fat on my bum, thighs and hips which are plenty padded now

I'm also super uncomfortable @beforeIhit30 but luckily none of the reflux that you described, which sounds awful! I hope you find a way of getting more comfy somehow, all the broken sleep is a killer, especially when you know you need extra rest. I also have a huge bump that's just solid baby, he's in quite a low down position at the minute and that's helped a lot in terms of less indigestion but not in terms of achey hips etc. I'm massive and look like I'm about to pop! Great news about the induction too x

Welcome to @WeShouldOpenABar I'm sorry you're having a tough time, this thread is amazing though and full of great advice and support.

Congratulations too @Blii on a potential induction date x

WeShouldOpenABar Welcome. Oh dear, poor you about being hospitalized. I have to admdit to complete ignorance about that drug, but I do think people on these threads who like you were in Ireland have been prescribed it. I know with some of the anti hist. drugs like Cyclizine people can feel very sleepy at first. If it doesn't wear off or doesn't seemt to help much, there are an assortment of other drugs that they can try, but they like to start people on the weaker drugs and for many sufferers they are massively helpful. A good anti acid can make a bit difference. You can get Ranitidine over the counter here which is used in pregnancy, so you may be able to there. Don't feel you haveto read all of the thread - my goodness, we are due to start a new one probably tommorow it is so full. We fill several of these a year. I am Mother Hen these days- it's a long time since I suffered. I hope you have picked up some tips by reading, anyway. In case you missed ther recommended drinks:
Flat full sugar coke, ice lolllies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucoazade, fizzy orange, lemonade, Robinson's fruit drinks, Dr Pepper, orange squash, tonic water, Elderflower water, Elderflower coridal and tonic water (eallison's tipple), soda water, Iron Bru, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), orange juice (if not too acid) and 7Up. Also, someone recommended piles of ice in drinks. For foods of a sort, nibbles of chips and crisps, cheap ice cream, tinned fruit, slices of melon and mango, biscuits, baked potatoes, Scotch pancakes and cuppa soup. Don't despair; most people see a big improvement at some point between weeks 14 and 20 and even for the unlucky ones who suffer throughout, it is almost never as bad as in the dreadful early stage.
beforeihit30 That sounds good about the induction choice, and awful about the dreadful acidity. I remember sleeping almost upright and it is anything but restful.
norbert That sounds highly uncomfortable, too.
DDP How are things?
At least the weather is not really hot at the moment, around here in Wales, anyway...

@WeShouldOpenABar sorry you are suffering, to be honest I welcome the sleepiness from cyclizine initially, I felt.so rubbish I was happier sleeping more.

@beforeIhit30 sorry you are struggling with reflux, what are you taking for it. The lack of sleep must be making you feel worse during the day?

I've now got my blood sugar monitor but am continuing to struggle with HG meaning I need to eat lots of carbs and diabetes meaning I can't. ... I'm eating the recommended amount of carbs but still getting high sugar readings so am going to have to cut further. I'm also really struggling that I'm going to be induced, and have to be consultant led, as I had a horrible time there with DC1. I just want this to be over now!