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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 07/02/2019 13:25

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

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Reastie · 26/02/2019 11:47

Cattaxi hope the stemetil helps. Glad you’ve got such a prompt scan. I always thought ectopic was very strong aggressive type of pain, hopefully it’s nithing but glad you can have it checked soon.

Work have finally got someone in to replace me but haven’t told me. I only know from a group email to all staff. Feeling down about work. I have so much guilt about it. I emailed them a week and a half ago after I visited the gp to tell them I was still signed off and how bad I felt letting them down and if I coukd help from home at all. I’ve had no response at all from anyone about it, not even an acknowledgement of email. I feel like I’ve just been a burden and a pain to everyone and I’m being ignored now I’m no use. It’s probably the hormones but I was feeling so bad about it but now I’m thinking maybe I shouldn’t.

Reastie · 26/02/2019 11:49

Posted Lacey I’m glad you got the fluids. Lying on the floor in a&e doesn’t sound pleasant but at least the wait wasn’t too dire.

brandyberry · 26/02/2019 12:11

@LaceyB1995 that sounds horrid! But I’m glad you’ve managed to get some treatment.

I visisted out of hours on Sunday and the doctor was v.nonchalant. Made me feel like I was wasting his time. I eventually managed to get him to prescribe some tablets - so I’ve got prochlorperazine. I’ve been off work yesterday and today. I’m hoping to go back tomorrow, just for some normality and because I feel like I’m letting the kids and my department down, but I seem to have gone backwards today. No appetite and struggling to drink anything.

eallison88 · 26/02/2019 12:49

lacey please tell me that you were discharged with different meds, so as to try to avoid having to return to A&E. I'm horrified you spent so long lying on the floor but glad you finally got the treatment (fluids) you needed.

reastie work and guilt is such a tricky thing. I was back yesterday after half term and had a really stressful few hours there (entirely work related, tho I suspect they wouldn't be doing the things that caused me stress if I was there full time and fighting my corner, but ho hum). We can do no more than what we can, and it's irresponsible for us to push ourselves too far, regardless of what work might say or infer. I'm sorry that you're being ignored!!

norbert23 · 26/02/2019 14:16

Thanks @Reastie it's going ok, although even doing a shorter day wiped me out and I was in bed and asleep by 6:30 (would have gone up at 5 if I could!) I only did until 1 today and have work I can carry on with if I have the energy. In bed now and will nap at some point 😀
It's not very professional or fair of your work to be so dismissive and not reply. Try not to feel guilty - if they have someone to cover then things are ok and you can get the rest you need. Plus you've had a busy week with your DD's birthday and the play date to come!
I hope you had a less stressful day @eallison88
Don't rush back @brandyberry I was like you and everyone here was very wise and completely right - I needed to rest and everything has turned out fine so no need to feel bad!

Hope you're better soon @LaceyB1995 it sounds like you've had a really tough time x

LucindaE · 26/02/2019 16:24

Moonkid Goodness, how stressful. I am so glad all is OK. eallison has been having bleeding too. Very nerve wracking. Rest as much as you can. If Lactulose is not working, there is a laxative, I think, called Movical or some such thing. Reastie was on an unusual one, beginnng with 'C'. There are the suppositories. Some don't like to take them in pregnancy, though they do them for pregnant women in hospital. Did you say you had tried horrible Fybregel? Some find that tinned peaches are good, and of course, the skin of baked potatoes, if you can stand that.
LaceyB1995 Poor you. I am so glad that OH got you to go in. We were anxious. What meds have they put you on now?
TwoShades1 Gingered indeed, as unfortunately I only met one person with Hyperemesis who had a kind word to say about ginger and those ginger tablets. As Reastie says, are you finding your bowels are OK with the Ondansetron? It usually ties them up, unfortunately, and it is best to be prepared for the worst.
ReastieI am so sorry work have been insensetive and negligent about contacting you. Where do toddlers get all that energy from? I believe they did an experiment where a very athletic man had to do all the movements of a toddler for a day, and was in a state of collapse by the end of the day. Great advice from Norbert.
And good advice from Norbert about work too, to Brandyberry. Can you get signed off? Unfortunately, while nobody wants to be off if they can help it, you do need rest to help you to recover and realistically, most people are off work for a while with this scourge.
cattaxi Quite a lot of people find that med very helpful as it does bypass the stomach if you have the dissolve under the tongue form.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked. Watch me cross post.

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norbert23 · 26/02/2019 19:23

Just further proof that @LucindaE is right about the cat = nurse thing, this is Tabs who follows me everywhere now and sits as closely as possible!

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LucindaE · 26/02/2019 19:37

norbert23 Ha, Ha, that is it about 'Cat Nurses'. She looks a lovely cat. Mine would lie purring on my head when I had migraines.

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eallison88 · 26/02/2019 20:10

Bleeding seems to have settled.

I have two cats. One is still avoiding me. This may be cos he is crap at cleaning his backside, so until very, very recently, if he came near me I lobbed something (soft) at (well, next to) him. The other one has avoided me completely until the day after my first bleed, when he came and curled up on my knee with head and front paws resting on bump. This is now where he likes to settle.

cattaxi · 26/02/2019 21:04

@LucindaE I didn’t get the melt under the tounge ones. They are a bit chocolate teapot at the moment. Made me drowsy, not so much as the cyclezine. But didn’t seem to stop the sickness as well as the cyclezine.
My GPsaid she hoped the EPU would talk to me about meds tomorrow.

@Reastie I thought ectopic was more of a big sudden pain too. This is a kind of dull ache, like a pulled muscle. But there was one very tender spot when she prodded me. Hopefully it’s nothing. I’m getting a bit worried about it tonight now my mind has had a bit of time to wonder.
I’m sorry your work are being shit. It’s just common courtesy to reply.

Glad the bleeding has stopped @eallison88.

I’m very allergic to cats! I am currently really missing our old dog, who did not leave my side through the HG days of my first pregnancy.

LucindaE · 26/02/2019 22:10

cattaxiI'm sorry to hear the aren't working too well. I hope you get something better. Sorry, too, I meant to add that I always thought too that an ectopic pregnancy was a violent, sharp pain. It is so easy to strain the abdominal muscles by violent vomiting. I remember it.

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Hairwizard · 26/02/2019 23:02

So ive been admitted to ward again for fluids. Was up all last night and today vomiting. Kept nothing down. Checked my wee and 4+ so rang ooh and got sorted. I was doing great these last few weeks too. Think it was the curry i had for tea last night. Never up at night with hg.

ElkieMacjibe · 27/02/2019 11:49

Morning ladies. I'm still on my quest to find medication that doesn't knock me out with drowsiness but also stops the nausea/vomiting. Now on drug no 4, metoproclamide. I'm not vomiting which is good but I still feel so nauseous and rough. Wondering if maybe I'm expecting too much? Does anyone's medication make them feel vaguely normal? Also wondering if anyone has combined metoproclamide and cyclizine? Might try that before going back to dr.
There is some good news though, had scan today at 7+4 and there is a little bean in there ❤️

Reastie · 27/02/2019 12:26

Elkie best drug for me has been ondansetron 8mg 3 x day (that’s max dose). For me the only side effect is constipation (make sure you get a laxitive with it). Problem is it’s quite an expensive drug and so some gps don’t like prescribing it. Some aren’t able to prescribe it and you have to get from hospital. It’s the next level up I’m terms of risk from cyclizine etc so I think often gps tend to use the safer ones first and only go on to ondansetron if they need more.

Oh hair, how rubbish, hope you feel improved soon.

Not too bad this morning but now going downhill quickly. Hopefully it’s just needing a bm soon and will improve after.

eallison88 · 27/02/2019 15:04

elkie cyclizine, meto and ondansetron was a combo that worked for me for a while (I had to stop taking the meto as I got the rare side effects, and with it the combo did not work). I would speak to your GP about trying some in combo.

I've realised that on the 3 days I work, I don't eat properly whilst at work. which is problematic cos its over lunch. It affects both my nausea and the diabetes, cos end up just having a bag of crisps, or a handful of olives (if I'm being good). Then I get home from work and have to choose between a nap or food before picking my son up and I almost always choose nap (itsthe most pressing need). I don't eat at work cos I don't stop working, it's a manic 2 hours and I don't have time to breathe! I can't see what to do tho cos I can't move later as that would definitely mean no nap before picking my son up. And the thought of moving earlier makes me want to cry cos I'm not sure how I can get myself ready and out in time. I don't know what to do.

beforeihit30 · 27/02/2019 15:35

Oh it’s been busy for everyone! So sorry to hear of hospital trips and pains, but I hope everyone is feeling better soon Flowers

brandy I echo the suggestion of taking it easy and getting signed off, if you can. It’s quite stunning just how much even basic activity can make the sickness worse Confused I get by most days because I literally do nothing - I sleep, I lie in bed, sometimes I try to sit on the sofa (and sometimes that’s too much!), I still have nausea but I usually avoid the vomiting if I’m basically sedentary (I vomit sometimes, but it’s not daily which makes such a huge difference because it means I’m not straining my muscles so much, or getting dehydrated, or peeing myself accidentally... ahem). It makes me feel a bit useless, but I’m coming to terms with the fact that I just need to look after myself until whenever I can do more. I do hope you’re feeling better though.

Elkie I stuck to cyclizine but I’m in a similar spot, I probably spend 80-90% of my time feeling nauseous and rough, I sleep a LOT, if I’m not sleeping I’m lying on the bed with the blinds drawn (like some sort of melodramatic recluse Grin). My GP was really straight with me and said, “The thing is, it’s hard for us to control everything - so you’re not vomiting, you’re keeping food and drink down, which is really good. All you can do now is rest. If you can rest, that really would be the best thing to do”. Perhaps there are other meds, but I get what she was saying - I’m not at risk as such, like of dehydration, which is awesome from the medical perspective, but obviously still rubbish from a quality of life perspective. But their priority is the medical side more than the QOL side (my last GP was also really honest about this!). So I’ve stuck this one out. As it stands I had a day 2 weeks ago where I basically felt normal, and yesterday was pretty good too, so they do happen. I immediately notice the difference, as does DH - apparently I don’t normally get out of bed so quickly these days so when I do, he knows I’m having a better day!

Lucinda my cats are finally nursing me! Grin they’re always lovely but they definitely have a soft spot for DH, he’s home during the day and feeds them (and talks to them) so they’ve developed a close relationship! However the last few evenings they’ve been coming to sit on me instead, which is a novelty.

eallison can you stomach things like smoothies? When I was first thinking I’d be going back to work (before I realised how serious all of this was), I was nervous about what to eat during meetings as I often have meetings over lunch or have 7 minutes to knock back some salad between things, and I knew that wouldn’t work. DH suggested bringing drinkable nutrition, which I thought actually sounded like a really good idea. We have a smoothie maker which helps, so I could just use things I could tolerate. I suppose drinking soup from a thermos mug, if you can tolerate a soup (something smooth and inoffensive maybe?), all depending on what you can actually stomach of course.

Went for our first proper scan yesterday (dating scan). Baby is not compliant! Wriggled so so much and took three attempts to get all measurements (they’d send me off for 20 minutes whilst they saw another woman, then would bring me in again to try). Sonographer was really good about it though and very good natured, laughing, saying he was determined to get these measurements, and we did get there in the end. Only took 1.5 hours Grin EDD has moved very slightly, now expecting 1 September (so glad it went slightly earlier and not later!).

4yo DC2 has come to see me, DH drops him off after nursery pick up on way to get DC1 from Primary when I’m awake, he comes straight up to hang out with me in bed, it’s lovely. Reminds me why we’re doing this!

Reastie · 27/02/2019 15:45

Beforeihit totally agree with your comments on signed off. Grin at the scan this morning.

Eal could you have a five minute break in the middle of work just to have some biscuits —I mean healthy diabetic friendly food— or something? Or having a snack bar or cereal bar in your pocket and just have a mouthful of the bar every now and again to get you through? In my classroom I have a big walk in cupboard so should I be desperate I can go in there and get a mouthful of food before carrying on, not sure if you have similar. Smoothie is a good idea. I’m sure they’d understand you munching occasionally on something. Or have something on your journey to and from work ready to go and eat.

cattaxi · 27/02/2019 17:02

Everythimg was ok with my scan and examinations this morning. The dr thinks I probably just pulled something when retching 🙄
6+4 is early for a scam, but she was able to make out a baby with a heartbeat.

@ElkieMacjibe my gp had a very similar conversation to @beforeihit30 with me yesterday. The cyclezine is helping me keep food down & stay hydrated. But it knocks me out completely. She was basically saying my health needs to be a priority for the next few weeks, and if that means taking a step back in other activities, then so be it. She said that it was quite unlikely that we would find a meds combo that will have me well enough to function normally.
So as it stands, I’m accepting that work has to go on the back burner for now & prioritising keeping myself healthy & being there as much as I can for the 2 kids we have at home. It’s hard, because I love work. But other stuff has to come first sometimes.

I hope everyone has had a good day. The weather is gorgeous again, but i’ve been so tired I slept all afternoon!

eallison88 · 27/02/2019 17:08

Smoothie are difficult cos of the dairy thing. Plus the fruit thing; I've got to limit my fruit. Soup is a good shout tho. Part of it is being so busy and working such short hours that I forget to eat or I don't feel like I can take the 5 minutes it would take to warm something up. And snacks are bloody difficult - they have to be dairy free, low carb and sugar free. There's not a right lot left!!

ElkieMacjibe · 27/02/2019 17:29

Thanks all that's really interesting. I think because the cyclizine worked so well for a week or two my expectation was that the other drugs would do the same but actually they are just stopping me be physically sick (which of course I'm glad of!) but not touching the general shit feeling. I might have to readjust expectations of going to work over the next few weeks then. Best go back to the gp to discuss 🙈

BingisaweeArse · 27/02/2019 17:37

Hi @DeadDoorpost it's mustang just saw your name on the new thread not been on in ages. Congrats on babydoorpost number 2.

Waves @LucindaE

Sorry you are all suffering 😢 it will all be a distant memory nightmare before you know it

Hairwizard · 27/02/2019 18:09

@cattaxi
Cyclizine wiped me out to begin with but then i got used to it. Im taking tbat plus max dose ondansetron and also stemetil. Thats been enough for me.
Hopefully the wiped feeling will pass soon for you, its awful though, makes you feel totally useless, esp when you cant even manage basic stuff like drying your hair.
Im in the ward for night again, still showing 4+ ketones.

Reastie · 27/02/2019 18:11

Eal I’d be tempted to have a small pack of nuts in my pocket to munch through if you can stomach them. Or oatcakes with peanut butter? I was just about to suggest chocolate soya milk but I’m sensing that not great for a diabetic! Pre preg I would make porridge bars which are oats, dairy free milk, andnadd whatever extras you like (I found blueberries and pear pieces worked well) and then baked for about 20 minutes until firm. They are kind of healthy flapjacks (they don’t taste anything as nice as flapjacks but are healthy) that you cut into bars but more soggy than flapjacks. But you can pick it up and eat it. I’m enjoying eating much seeds savoury omega mix atm.

Cattaxi glad scan was ok, at least you know it was nothing tonbe worried about.

Elkie I’d say to have low expectations from what you’re able to do and you’ll find it easier to cope mentally.

Reastie · 27/02/2019 18:13

Xposted hair still in hospital? Poor you. Really feel for you

LucindaE · 27/02/2019 18:13

Hello everyone. I should not have mentioned migraines; now I have one and no longer have my cat nurse Sad. Will catch up asap. I hope everyone is surviving.

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