Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

Lostnames my husband actually said "now I know what it's like to have your partner walk out on you" in regards to us not seeing each other and him picking up the domestic slack. I thought that was a bit extreme!

SassehMonsta Oh dear. That all sounds so complex. Much sympathy. That certainly sounded like dehydration this morning, with the headache and dry mouth. It is so confusing when you have long term mild starvation and taking in enough fluids is difficult, so you don't know what the ketones indicate. Well done on surviving the soft play party. Is the vomiting still holding off?
Mamabear Poor you.Those are certainly very long hours for OH.
beanhunter With luck it may be a hormonal surge.
Jamjarjem That is so absurd. I so agree with others about getting your own. Has she given you a laxative in case of bowel problems with the Ondansetron?
Reastie Sorry to hear that cuppa soup is no good due to dietary requirements. It's really bad about the library closures.
Much sympathy for LostNames eallison MauisLeftNipple and all those having to live in a state of separation from OH's. Mine smelt strongly of roast pork to me and I used to sleep at the other edge of the bed while sniffing on a lavender satchet.

Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Hey everyone. Think I'm around 8+4 ish so really in the thick of it now. I literally haven't got out of bed all day. Oh wait, I lie - I've got out twice, to have a wee, and both times I ended up violently retching into the toilet. Feel so rough.

Sick of people not understanding either. One of my friends offered to pick the kids up from school twice. I was so grateful and DH bought her chocolates. Then she started messaging me about how I need to get up and get back on the school run, I'll feel better if I do, how must my kids feel wondering who is going to pick them up each day?! WTF. They've been picked up by her, their childminder, and my husband. Hardly random strangers. It made me feel so much more guilty!

I love Christmas as well and that's kind of a write off now. Sigh. 25 days until my scan...

Oh and yy to abandoning husbands and partners. It's just too hard right now.

Oh god birthday. Your friend hasn't a clue has she? DONT feel guilty. Meds and rest are the -best- thing for HG and for the sake of your baby and yourself you need to hold onto what's right for you, and not listen to other people's ignorance.

beanhunter one bad day is horrid, brings the worst back, but it does also inadvertently point out how much better things generally are. There -is- light coming, honestly.

Sorry for everyone else having such a hard time. Wishing everyone a peaceful night

Hi everyone,

I just wanted to thank you all for your kind words the last week or so, I am feeling much better on the upped medication. I went back to work yesterday and I’ve felt almost back to normal today (nausea is still being a trooper and hanging around) but is manageable and I’m okay.

I’m really hoping this is the end of the awful experience to be honest it’s been a very long week 6 - 22. I’m 22 weeks today & my little girl is due 13th April (6 days before my birthday!)

I really hope you all begin to feel human again or even manage to keep a meal down! I appreciate the support & again hope you all feel better soon. I have a huge amount admiration for you all battling through this 💜

Anyat what a lovely post. I’m so sorry you’re struggling still though but sounds much easier to bear.

Getting closer to 12 weeks now and living in hope things will start to get easier soon although have no expectations from myself for a couple of months yet. Just continue wishing time away. I’m sure I’ve read on here 10-11 weeks seems to be the worst? Or did I make that up?

Actually managed two cups of ginger tea today so feel like I did well with the liquids (well, better than usual). I hadn’t been able to have ginger tea since about 7 weeks. Also have some lemon squash to try tomorrow.

Ps birthday don’t try to do too much, your friend is probably coming from a helpful place but the advice really isn’t helpful!!

I'm off to find a GD thread to whinge on, but suffice to say, pregnancy sucks and my blood sugars still suck. Screw you body, we aren't friends. Grow this baby nicely please.

Thanks for the kind words and support yesterday. We all officially survived and the children loved their jam on toast dinner!

Reastie I found weeks 10-12 worst, I don't think they were worse than weeks 8-10 symptom wise but mentally for me it was much more of a struggle. I am now 17 weeks and whilst still struggling I am far better than I was those early weeks. Hopefully you will begin to pick up. Is your scan soon?

Sympathy sasseh I know nothing about managing GD, but it is the last thing you need right now. I hope you find some foods that work for both HG and GD. I will be tested at 24 weeks because my son was so large and I am fully expecting to have it.

I'm also likely to develop gestational diabetes as one of the lovely steroid side effects (May even become a permanent thing) I'm really hopeful to avoid it due to all the difficulties of trying to balance what you can eat with what you should/shouldn't eat. It must be so frustrating and hard!

Thanks mamma, I’m 12 weeks on Tuesday (by my dates) and have week 15 in my head as my next goal as I remember last time I had my worst point at week 14. I can but dream of being where you are at 17 weeks! Scan is booked next Saturday but I’m scared. Scared I won’t be up to it and will miss it but equally scared I do make it but the exhaustion from going out for the first time in about 3 weeks will make me worse from exhaustion and will it be worth it. We’ve booked a private one so we go somewhere less stressful than nhs hospital (and also easy parking compared to spending an hour driving around a full car park) and have booked second apt of the day in the hope they’re less likely to run late but it’ll still be minimum 90 minute round trip. I’m not sure if I should be pushing myself to do stuff this week to build up to the scan or take it easy to save my energy.

Sass that’s miserable, it always seems so unfair that some people have so many pg issues whereas other just drift through so easily.

Thanks for the sympathy guys. Yeh I reckon friend was trying to be helpful but there was no need to say those things. Pregnancy sickness aside, I do ALL school runs due to DH's hours so it's not like I'm a lazy twat that's trying to get out of it. Grrr.

Reastie I've always found weeks 8-12 ish the worst. Having the scan usually helps me loads - I don't know why; it sort of gives me motivation and knowledge that all the sickness was worth it and I can do this. I hope the same happens for you.

Mamma I don't know how old your children are, but I got a huge Tupperware box for mine and filled it with foods like salami, brioche, yogurts, cheese strings, mini chocolate bars, grapes etc and they can help themselves to this if DH isn't here for tea. They absolutely love it.

Just realised that tomorrow will be the point at which I had my termination last year. I'll be so pleased to get past that point.

Hi ladies
I really need some quick advice
My vomiting has been consistent but under control for at least a week now
My son has a tummy bug and I've now caught it

What do I do?
I feel so bad I can hardly open my eyes and look at a screen for the nausea

Should I continue with anti emetics?

I don't think hospital will want me with a contagious bug so I need to avoid being sick so much that I am dehydrated

shouldi you poor thing. Do you think you can manage to sip rehydration solution? I would continue with the anti emetics I think, as you don't want to get worse. If you do get worse, please call 111 for advice. People with dehydration from tummy bugs get admitted to hospital all the time. Of course you should avoid going out if possible, but not at the expense of becoming very unwell.

Maui

Thanks for your response I think you're probably right about the anti emetics

I do not want to be back in hospital for so many reasons
It's noisy my back hurts the canula are hard to get in to my veins etc

I'll see how I am
I won't be in ketosis yet
I ate some croissant this morning and it was at least 20 minutes before I got sick

If you can manage any salty foods they will help with your electrolyte balance. Crisps, salty crackers, nuts etc. Croissants are good also - salt in the butter, plus carbs.

I hope it's over soon.

shouldidoitspoiltI think that you must be suddenlypanicked too - and have had great advice from MauisLeftNipple . Couild you phone for emergency advice from doctors on uppping your meds? Are ice cubes made of full sugar flat coke any good, or ice lollies, or sips of a sweet fizzy drink or the juice of tinned fruit any use?
eallison Oh dear, I didn't know that about steroid treatment: but what can you do when you are so ill but take them and hope to avoid it?
BirthdayKake Poor you. Can they change or up the meds? Sorry, remind me what you are on and if it includes an anti acid etc. That friend sounds very insensitiive . Sorry about termination date - not a happy memory.
Anya I am so glad that things are a bit better with the meds.
Thank you for coming on to encourage others. How sweet your LO is due only six days before your own birthday. I've added your date.
Reastie As others say, ten or eleven weeks seems to be an all time low for many.
Mamabear I am glad to hear that! o
SashaMonsta An excellent idea. Do let us know what they advise; I am sure the advice will be invaluable for other GD/Hyperemesis sufferers.
Waves to SeaEagleFeather and others.

Due Dates
EveJackXXX 21 December
rotavixsucks 15 January
Olivecake 23 January
elpreggo27 20 March
silversplodge 4 April
Anya 13 Apriil
Beanhunter 17 April
8DaysAWeek 1st May
tinyradish 1 May
foreverblues 5 May
Plasticgiraffe 10 May
Mamabear13 18 May
bumblebee 20 May
SashaMonsta 31 May
eallison June

It is a real.balancing act with the steroids. However, as you say, I don't really have a choice but to take them if thus pregnancy is going to happen. And this pregnancy is going to happen! It just makes me very grumpy that it all seems so bloody unfair!

I've remembered why I had to stop taking movicol the last time I had it prescribed. Besides not actually being that effective, it also makes me nauseous. Anyone else found this? Did the nausea go away after a while? (I realise I'm asking the wrong crowd 😂)

I found it helped quite a bit but nausea is a known side effect yes (great!)

Mauis I haven’t had movicol, I’ve been on sennakot and initially it did make me feel a bit more sick and weird stomach ache but the nausea caused by that mainly happens now just when I need to have a poo (and I think that nauseouesness would happen regardless of medication) .

Does anyone else feel scared when they have a small amount of time feeling not so bad? Every time so far for me it has been soon followed by a time of feeling worse than I ever have before. It’s like I can’t enjoy the moments of relief.

Reastie That is the supreme irony - sufferers can't enjoy their good days, particularly if they have previously had a missed miscarriage, as they fear that 'something has gone wrong'.
eallsion It is totally unfair. You are right.
Waves to everyone.

Without going into all the details quick overview; useless doctor = "off all meds in 4 weeks", you'll be fine after 16weeks cos placenta... = panic puking, panic attack, ugly cry, get me another doctor, no I won't leave this room... Consultant doctor listened. Reassured. Drugs as needed, try to reduce as and when can, but you are clearly more than capable of managing that yourself, so do what you can. Repeat prescription s got steroids as needed from the antenatal clinic, just bring maternity botes in and show the note she'd added. 3 extra growth scans for baby, apt with her at 28 weeks (or earlier if I want one). Go home with meds and do what you need to do.

Hurrah (eventually)!! I rrally recommend the use of the phrase "no. Get me someone who can help", "no, that is not an appropriate treatment", "show me the research that back a you up, as all the reading of done suggests the opposite". Its really powerful to be as informed as you can be. And say no. First time is hard, but then you get into a roll and it's much easier!! If you know know the care/meds etc suggestion is wrong, say so!!

Go eal! Well done for holding firm. I still can’t believe how problematic it’s been to keep you on the only things that are helping. I’m going to try to remember those sentences.