Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Pregnancy

Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Hyperemesis Support

988 replies

LucindaE · 15/10/2018 21:40

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.

Hyperemesis Support
Hyperemesis Support
OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Thread gallery
6
eallison88 · 27/11/2018 18:02

It certainly is reastie; is it just ondansetron you're on? Might it be worth trying cyclizine as well?

kleino is there another GP you can see? Go armed with a print out of the recommendations, highlighting the med options and recommendations.

Reastie · 27/11/2018 18:10

Klein I’ve had problems with gps not knowing the guidelines, you should be given something to add in with cyclizine not instead of.

Eal I’m on 8mg ondansetron 3 x day, cyclizine 3 x day and I take prochlorperazine 5-10mg as and when on top of the other two. I try not to take it all the time so I feel like I still have somewhere to go iykwim but this afternoon I was on full dose of all of them yet couldn’t move from the sofa with my eyes closed Confused . I remember it was like this with dd intermittently until 20 weeks so I’ve just got to put up with it I guess. I think people underestimate how hard this is mentally.

Kleino83 · 27/11/2018 18:13

Thanks eallison. That was the 3rd one I dealt with. One gave me cyclizine even though she didn’t really want me to start meds but she works two mornings only. The 2nd said unless I was vomiting she wouldn’t give me tablets. As I explained to all of them the extreme nausea is debilitating and has meant I am barely eating. I spoke to the PSS helpline and they said hyperemesis is extreme nausea and sickness, so it is incorrect of doctors only to treat when you are being sick. I think I will have to go back on the tablets until I can find a GP willing to help me with a plan.
Like the others have said I count down each day but it really feels like it is going so slowly and I know I am coming up to the peak weeks so absolutely petrified!!

Reastie · 27/11/2018 18:23

Klein if gp won’t give you additional medicine you can ask them to refer you to an obstetrician. That was the advice pss gave me if gp wouldn’t give me anything else. I agree you have to argue that it’s having a big impact on your quality of life and as such you should be offered medication whether or not you’re being sick all the time. It’s tough having to fight for drugs you should be entitled to when you feel at your weakest.

eallison88 · 27/11/2018 18:29

kleino it's so bloody tough, isn't it. Every minute you tick off tho is one you don't have to do again.

Kleino83 · 27/11/2018 18:39

Thank you reastie and eallison.

You are right it is so awful having to fight your corner when you feel awful! And not be taken seriously.

Yes I keep saying to myself, I will never be week 5 again etc etc.

TwoDrifters · 27/11/2018 19:29

I’m so so sorry that everyone is suffering so badly. Please don’t hate me but I’m 39 weeks tomorrow and have my ELCS all planned. I don’t know what time it will be precisely, but I think and hope it’s safe to say that by this time tomorrow, the nausea should be over. That is truly what I am mainly focusing on right now as I’m still being sick and have the constant hideous metallic taste in my mouth.

There were times at 6 and 9 and 11 weeks when I honestly thought I couldn’t bear it and wouldn’t be able to do it. But somehow the days just pass. And finally an end seems in sight. We will all get there, I know it’s horrendous, but one day you will be able to look back and know that you’re through the worst. Keep going, everyone! Flowers

MauisLeftNipple · 27/11/2018 19:43

Sorry to read of your struggles Lostnames and Kleino. It is a bloody tough slog this condition, but one made slightly more bearable with the right support and medication. I hope you both manage to get on a better regimen.

I've had a few friends asking me how they can help, but I'm at a loss what to suggest. Ideally I'd love someone to take my youngest 2 for the entire school day, so I could just stay in bed. That's not realistic. A friend offered to watch them at her house while I napped on her couch (she has kids of her own) but I said I'd rather stay home near the loo.

LucindaE · 27/11/2018 20:10

LostNames As others say, do ask for other meds. Cyclizine doesn't suit everybody. Also, a good anti-acid makes all the difference. What drinks can you stand? Some that have helped people on here.
Ice lollies, flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit, ice cubes, soda water, fizzy water, Elderlower Water, Lucoazade, Dr Pepper, fizzy orange, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), Lemonade, Robinson's Fruit drinks, Iron Bru and sips of chocolate milk shake, maybe soya. Awful foods seem often to be bearable, like nibbles of crisps and chips, and cheap ice cream, and cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes and tinned fruit, especially peaches. Also, more healthily, baked potatoes and slices of melon andmango. Do invest in kesostix from a chemists to check for the early stages of dehydration.
Kleino Much sympathy. It is hard, as others say, to hold your own with doctors when feeling so ill. Can you get someone to go with you to back you up as an advocate? Sometimes one can hardly speak for fear of being sick - not as if it wouldn't serve some doctors right if you were sick on their shoes. I wonder what this drug is that you only take once a day? Do ask for an anti acid, too.
SassheMonsta How lovely about those flutters! Congratulations.
eallison beanhunter Reastie and others: good advice. eallison was the intriguing cheese, pear and toast idea yours? Sorry, I don't dare check back - my pc is acting oddly.
Evejackxxx Sorry about cold and continuing sickness. Poor you. Here's some Flowers .
TwoDrifters That's wonderful. 'It's a lovely day tomorrow, tomorrow is a lovely day...'Best of luck. Do tell us how things went when you can. Nobody should hate you for having reached the legendary Pink Castle at the end of the horrific Hyperemesis journey. You've suffered throughout. Star Flowers Smile
Sorry so many people feel so bad....Watch me cross post.

OP posts:
LucindaE · 27/11/2018 20:16

I did cross post! MauisLeftNipple That is sweet of your friends. I hope you can think of something. Taking your LO's for an hour or two, even, would give you a blissful break dozing.. You are heroic, man aging to cope with 3 and Hyperemesis.

OP posts:
eallison88 · 27/11/2018 20:24

twodrifters I'm so excited for you about tomorrow! Best of luck and enjoy the yummy newborn snuggles:)

mauis I'd be tempted to take up your friends offer- could you borrow a bed for and hour or so? Tell your friends anything they cn do to give bit of resolute from looking after your daughter. I also ask my friends to clean my loo for me...

Yep lucinda toast with goats cheese and pears is mine! Today I've discovered figs as an alternative to the pears. A little bit of honey is good, too. And all pretty stuff!

Lostnames · 27/11/2018 22:14

Thanks for the support, I’ve had one of the worst days so far in terms of nausea and I am starting to feel very weak, I am lucky that I have no responsibilities and I can just stay in bed as much as I hate to do so.
However as hard as today has been it is the very first time that I haven’t thrown up which is a miracle in itself!
I am seeing the midwife for the first time on Saturday so I hope for further advice otherwise I will make a dr appt for Monday as I don’t know how much longer I can go on.
Everyday is different with food and drink I am able to have some ice lollies at the moment which are a life saver, I was eating toast now the smell makes me vomit and I tried a few plain crackers which were okay. I will ask my husband for baked potatoes I think as I do love them anyway and happy to eat totally plain.
Hope everyone feels a little better soon!

eallison88 · 27/11/2018 23:14

lostnames don't wait til Monday to see doctor. Midwife can't prescribe you anything, but a doctor can. Yay for not puking!

Kleino83 · 28/11/2018 07:20

Two drifters best of luck for your ELCS. How exciting not only that the awful preg symptoms will be over but your wonderful baby will arrive.
Luncina e- it was the other anti-histamine (Phenargen? Def spelt that wrong). I read you can take it 3/4 times a day but that GP was only prepared to let me take it once at night. Like I said he didn’t show any interest and said “if you are going to get hyperemesis again you can’t stop it and you will just have to go to hospital”. Rather than trying to help me work out a plan to try and manage things before they spiralled. And yes my husband is amazing so can always take him and he won’t shy away from demanding help.

Olivecake · 28/11/2018 07:26

TwoDrifters good luck today, so exciting that after so many months of suffering your baby will soon be in your arms and I hope with that all of the nausea and sickness becomes a distant memory!

Sorry to see so many of you suffering so badly - I’m 32 weeks today and although I am still on my meds and have moments of nausea or even the very ovassional vomit, it really does get much better than those early days. There were so many times I thought I couldn’t make it through another day but somehow we do and eventually it will start getting better. Just keep going back to doctors until you’re happy your meds are helping- for most of us it’s a combination that works best. And rest and be kind to yourselves.

Kleino83 · 28/11/2018 12:29

Has anyone taken Metoclopramide?
The GP said generally people take it for 5 days max but she knows people who have taken it for weeks. 5 days wouldn’t help me really so I am now concerned about taking it longer.

Reastie · 28/11/2018 12:44

Klein Shock at your gps attitude. Early medication can work as a preventative of it getting so bad. You need to take the nice guidelines to your gp or see another one. People do have metcloploride for most of pg. I’ve got it but because of the way it works it doesn’t work well for me and I prefer to have prochlorperazine, but I know it works really well for some.

Twodrifters I’m so jealous of you, hope all goes/went well.

eallison88 · 28/11/2018 13:10

There are potential issues with meto. Interestingly, the consultant I saw at my local hospital was more than happy to prescribe long term. However, the consultant team I'm now under are very clear meto is short term and shouldn't be used long term.

SassehMonsta · 28/11/2018 13:29

TwoDrifters, I hope all is OK and baby makes a safe and happy appearance! :) I might be shedding a tiny tear of happiness for you!

I was coming on to say things seem to be slowly improving, but the last half an hour hasn't been so great - overdone it again no doubt! I managed to get out to the cinema last night with my best friend as a surprise for her, organised by her husband, and we had a lovely time, but it was a late night. Today I am paying for it as have been sick 3 times at work and may go home half an hour early...!

Kleino83 · 28/11/2018 13:43

Thanks for that info reastie and eallison. Just so confused as to why she would go ahead with that one and not try prochlorperazine then. I am stupid and should have pushed her for another one.

eallison88 · 28/11/2018 14:02

Not stupid kleino, not at all. You are a woman who is ill and not being appropriately supported and cared for. Try it, and see. The people at pregnancy sickness support are clear with meto can and is used long term. Might be worth a chat with them, however I know the helpline is closed at the moment cos Karen (who mans the phone) is unwell. You can ring and leave a message and they will.get back to you as soon as they are able to.

Kleino83 · 28/11/2018 14:11

Thanks eallison for all the advice and support. Xx

MauisLeftNipple · 28/11/2018 15:26

I was prescribed Metochlopromide in my last pregnancy, without a 5 day restriction. In saying that, I think I only took it for a few days as it didn't help at all.

Kleino83 · 28/11/2018 15:47

Thanks Mauis. Will give it a go I guess!

LucindaE · 28/11/2018 20:48

Kleino I believe the main reason why doctor's prefer not to prescribe metoclopramide long term is because it can cause twitchiness in the mother (not the baby) which is a sign she should come off it asap. But many on here have been on it along with Ondansetron, and I think, Cyclizine for many weeks. Great about OH. Do make use of him. I am sorry to say that women on here find they take an OH's words more serously than the women's. That does make steam burst from my ears. We are not in 1962.
eallison That sounds a great recipe [smiles].
Lostwords I hope the baked potatoes suit you.
Olivecake Thank you for your lovely supportive message.
Waves to MauisLeftNipple Reastie and everyone.

I'm thinking of TwoDrifters. I hope all has gone swimmingly with her.
Apololgies to anyone rudely missed.

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread