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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 22/06/2018 11:19

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hyperemesis Support
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Foodylicious · 30/06/2018 14:16

Did they manage to sort you out a stool or something at work btw?
I am rubbish at standing still at the moment.
Not so bad when I am walking or in the car.
I have taken it really easy at work mostly this week.
Steadily trying to start getting my caseload down...(it's going ok so far, eek)

LucindaE · 30/06/2018 19:11

Welcome to Picklesandpies and somethingfornothing and welcome back to Troika and Yamsright. Boredoftryingusernames and SeaEagleFeathers an d others have given such fine advice that I have nothing to add except, for the benefit of anyone who hasn't got any kesostix, that they are very useful to showing high levels of dehyration which the staff in hospitals will take seriously in the first stages and also, I can trot out my 'An Anti Acid like Omprazole or Ranididine is invaluable for reducing nausea and vomiting' statement. Then, here's a list of drinks and a few foods which have helped many on here. Full sugar flat coke, ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, ice cubes, lemonade, fizzy orange, orange squash (if not too acid) Lucoazade, Dr Pepper, soda water, fizzy water, Robinson's fruit drinks, Elderflower Water and sips of chocolate milkshake - maybe soya. As for food of a sort, nibbles of chips and crisps, tinned fruit - peaches are a favourite - I loved pears - cuppa soup, Scotch pancakes, baked potatoes, cornflakes, cheap ice cream and slices of melon and also mango.
somethingfornothing I am so sorry about your having several mc's after your first pregnancy five years ago. That sounded awful about struggling through without meds. It seems there is a neurological vomiting pattern the brain can get into which is why pre-emptive meds are such a good idea.
Picklesandpies I hope that the threatre are helpful. I also hope that you get that retured doctor who has helped so many when you ring the Pregnancy Sickness Support number on 024 7638 2020 They have to phone back, but do with the best advice.
Olivecake Week ten is often the worst for many, with its hormonal surge. Remind me what meds you are on?
Ohiha I found that those awful solid iron tablets just made me vomit. I believe you can get them in drop form, which are reputedly less nauseating. Do you have cold winters there?
Hotchocolate Sorry to hear of awful walk to work. Those Public Puking displays are the worst, so I am glad you just about avoided one. It can't hopefully be much above a week that you have to work?
Like others, I do hope it is a hormonal surge that is causing this relapse, or the heat.
booandbump Goodness, I do feel for you and everyone in this heat. It was lovely in Deal, though interestingly, there was chill east wind at night, though the days were hot. On Thursday night we all ran home, the wind was so chill.
Ohiwa Do you have coldish winters where you are?

Foodylicious Some great advice from you too. I had to smile at your wriggly bump description Grin.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored or cross posted with. Back soon.

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Hotchocolate86 · 01/07/2018 08:57

foody I have been able to sit on a stool at times when I feel very rough but as I have to sit round the back it’s not very helpful for just using as and when during the day. You must feel better as your caseload is reducing I hope.
Lucinda I am supposed to work the next two weekends but I’m wondering if I should see if I can get signed off sick for them. I haven’t managed to work a full weekend yet without having to go home at least an hour early on one of my shifts. It’s really frustrating as in my last pregnancy I was so much better by now and I naively expected this one to be the same.

LucindaE · 01/07/2018 18:28

Hotchocolate I am shocked about this lack of provision of seating. For goodness sake, people were campaigning about this back in Victorian times! I found it tiring when I worked as a library assistant without a stool provided, and I didn't have Hyperemesis. Taking that time off as sick leave seems a fine idea to me in the circumstances.

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Foodylicious · 01/07/2018 18:45

hotchoc that's pants!
I would def take the time off sick.

Hotchocolate86 · 02/07/2018 16:10

The doctor has agreed to sign me off sick for the next two weeks. I feel a bit guilty about it but it’s clear I’m not actually coping with work even if I’m nowhere near as ill as I was at the start of my hyperemesis. It’s a relief to know I can just rest now.

Foodylicious · 02/07/2018 16:59

Brilliant news hotchoc
I know it's not what any if us want, but neither is being so ill!

So have you worked out how many months it is now till you plan to go back?

Hotchocolate86 · 02/07/2018 17:56

I think I will go back in may. It should be the beginning of may but I’m hoping to use a couple of weeks holiday and go back mid may. It will be lovely to have Christmas off.

Boredoftryingusernames · 02/07/2018 18:04

Hotchocolate sorry you have been feeling worse again, really pleased your Dr has signed you off though. Hope you start to feel better soon and it is just a hormonal surge/heat making things worse at the moment.

Hotchocolate86 · 02/07/2018 18:09

Thanks bored I’m hoping it will settle down shortly but if it’s the heat who knows! Fingers crossed though. How are you feeling?

LucindaE · 02/07/2018 19:06

Hotchocolate I so agree with Foodylicious and Boredoftryngusernames, it's excellent that you've been signed off.
Your workplace didn't seem to try too hard to make things easier for you, that's for sure.
I hope people aren't melting in the heat. Are you all, like Bored enjoying a sit down in paddling pools when you can?

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Foodylicious · 02/07/2018 19:35

I keep thinking I'm doing a bit better hotchoc then I had to lie on the floor at work this afternoon.
A combination of being too hot and having had a late lunch I think.
I tried sitting with my feet up on the desk but it didn't help enough and I was just getting dizzier.

Had a few bouts since getting home too.

Just want to sleep!.
4yr old is being pretty good, hoping bed will settle yo bed soon but he's going through a bit of a willfull pita phase at the moment.
Made a sticker chart this Morning, will see how he goes...

Foodylicious · 02/07/2018 19:38

Ha Ha, half posted that too soon.
4yr old WAS a pita re pyjammas for bed, but it resulted in tears, comfort and a lie on the bed to calm down
Bless him he's just fed to sleep so a quick result after all
I'll just change him in to pjs when he's a bit more deeply asleep later.

rotavixsucks · 02/07/2018 20:36

Just realised there was a new thread (oops), I thought everyone had been a bit quiet.

I hope your all holding up ok.

I'm managing to keep on top of the sickness as long as I keep taking the metaclopramide...though I think I've worked out combining it with lucozade is what's been making me twitchy Hmm so trying to stay away from that at the moment.

Ended up crying in the supermarket today as I run out of tablets tomorrow and I can't collect them from Drs until Friday (they are shut by the time I get home from work and are open later on Fridays they will only issue a weeks dose at a time and then need 5 working days to 'process' the next lot).

I spent this afternoon going to all the pharmacies in town seeing if anyone would process my paper 'repeat prescription' but apparently they can't as they have not been 'nominated'...never has this option been made available when discussing difficulty in collection at the surgery.

Sorry for the moan...I feel like a complete drug addict desperate to get their fix but I am terrified of the effects of not taking any for a couple of days (I can't stop vomiting if I lower the dose let alone going cold turkey)

Foodylicious · 02/07/2018 20:43

Oh no rotavix!
You should be able to call your gp surgery and ask them which pharmacy they can send your prescription straight to. And you can then pick it up from there?

Picklesandpies · 02/07/2018 20:52

Hi @LucindaE and everyone else on here Smile

Thank you so much for your post. So helpful. Are you still suffering or are you a past sufferer? Not sure what the background is but you seem very knowledgeable and it's so kind of you to offer your support.

I managed to go to London, to the theatre. We drove in as couldn't face the train and stress of potentially vomiting in front of strangers. Glad we did - wasn't sick in the car but really needed the air con and to be able to sleep. Went straight to hotel and ordered room service - managed some pasta and a bowl of melon. Didn't dare lie down and literally falling asleep sitting up by 7pm waiting to go. Didn't feel too bad at all weirdly and theatre trip passed without incident. I had been very sick the night before and last night was awful so it's a miracle I went and it was all ok. Ate rich tea fingers throughout first half - with just the odd look from other people!

Having a horrible afternoon and evening. Vomiting and nausea. The problem I'm having is that I'm not eating very much so when I'm sick I start to feel hungry and then when I eat something I feel sick again. I don't know what to do about this.y stomach hurts from retching - or I hope that's what it is anyway.

Still don't know what to do about meds. We have had loads to deal with with selling our house - things moving very fast - and I haven't called Pregnancy Sickness Support yet, which I must. I'm so scared of harming the baby but I am hating every minute of feeling like this. I know you will probably all be rolling your eyes and wondering why I don't just take them. I am doing the same to be honest.

Hate hate hate this heat too. Have never wanted it to rain so much! Hope everyone else is coping ok.

Foodylicious · 02/07/2018 21:12

pickles I was just the same last pg.
Had 5 weeks of seeing the gp weekly before I 'gave in' - was vomming up to 15 times daily and total food/kitchen aversion at times too.

Really helped and I was back at work a week later (12 weeks pg).

This time I was get to g that way by 7 weeks so started then.
I have been very fortunate in that Promethazine has been enough to keep me at work and now only vomming very occasion ally, though I feel far from brilliant quite a bit of the time.

Could you let yourself try the medication for a week or so? See how you get on?

Really the only concern with Promethazine is that baby might be a bit grumpy once born if you take it right up to birth.

There isn't even much evidence for this though, it's just theoretical really.

rotavixsucks · 02/07/2018 21:20

Pickles I was like you during my first HG pregnancy, somehow I managed until 20 weeks before I gave in but by then I was really really ill. I totally understand not wanting to take the drugs but I think you hit a point where you just can't cope anymore.

This time round I got the drugs after the 1st day of being constantly sick.

Foody I am going to call Drs tomorrow (whether or not they answer is another matter) my concern though is all the pharmacies I spoke to today say it'll take a week from receiving the prescription to process it.

LucindaE · 02/07/2018 22:11

Picklesandpies I am glad the threatre visit went OK. I did suffer, years ago, but these days I'm Mother Hen on this thread. I was lucky in that I didn't suffer for very long, but in those days, there was little understanding from the medcial profession. My daughter is grown up! I am glad you find the advice on here helpful. Please don't worry about taking meds prescribed by doctors - they are so careful these days. Cyclizine, for instance, has been used safely in pregnancy since the 1980's. You will find talking to the Pregnancy Sickness Support people really reassuring on these concerns. I am glad you are managing to eat food of a sort on and off, which will help keep the kesotones low, but do invest in some kesostix just in case you become dehydrated. You can get them from any chemists. It is very hard to deal with any other stresses and strains when dealing wiht this.

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LucindaE · 03/07/2018 10:00

rotaivsucks Sorry, I missed your post. How are thihngs now? You were very brave to tough it out before, with meds available. Very sensible to take the drugs early, because doctors point out that there is a nerological aspect; the brain sets up a vomiting pattern which can be lessend with effective pre-emptive treatment. It makes sense, even economically, leavng aside all humane issues, as a woman being admitted on and off for weeks for fluids is very expensive. Yet having that happen is what some (fortunately, fewer these days) doctors seem to choose to do, by refusing to explore the most effecitve meds, which is strange...

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Hotchocolate86 · 03/07/2018 11:46

I’ve handed in my sick note this morning. They didn’t seem to bat an eyelid so that’s all good.
rotavix have you managed to sort anything out with your tablets? I hate that it can be so difficult to get hold of the medication you need.
pickles I hope you are feeling a little better today and that every one else is feeling reasonable.
It’s another hot day here.

Boredoftryingusernames · 03/07/2018 17:49

Pickles glad you made to the theatre and managed to enjoy it without vomiting. Hope you have felt a bit better today.
Rotavix really hope you can sort your meds in time, it's awful thinking you are going to run out.
Hotchocolate tentatively feeling a bit better the last 5 days, still waves of horrid nausea, but little spells where I have realised I actually don't feel nauseous! I'm 31 weeks today, not holding my breath it won't come back at any moment, bit making the most of the respite. Thanks for asking. Hope you are feeling a bit better with the relief of work being over now?

Hotchocolate86 · 03/07/2018 18:23

Glad you are feeling a little better bored. I hope it lasts.
I do feel relieved that I’m finished with work now although I am slightly disappointed it’s so early. I really don’t think I could have gone on much longer though so it’s both mine and the baby’s best interests I’m sure.

LucindaE · 03/07/2018 19:04

Foodylicious Sorry, I missed your post, too. Another person who deserves a medal for toughing it out. But you mustn't feel bad. Some of the older anti emetics have been used safely for decades. Dr's are aware that continual dehydration is worxse for the baby than any very small risk in taking meds. Sticker chart sounds a good idea. My menace of a daughter was never a good sleeper when little and worse during hot light summer nights.

Bored That is good news. Long may it continue! You deserve a break - a very long one.
Hotchocolate I am glad they accepted that. Enjoy resting as much as you can to get your strength back.
Rota Poor you. Five days seems absurd as a timescale to process the prescription. Is this a go-slow, or what? Never apologise for moaning. That's what this thread is for.
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked. I seem to be good at that at the moment. I'll blame the heat.

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rotavixsucks · 03/07/2018 19:58

Thankyou for the support ladies.

I managed to get away from work and get into the Drs...prescription wasn't ready but eventually they sorted it (god knows why they want 5 days-if I see the Dr then they'll give it straight away). Feeling incredibly thankful as I was down to my last tablet.

I totally agree with the psychological aspect, with my last pregnancy I couldn't go in the kitchen or near the door to it for the whole of the pregnancy after I'd thrown up cooking dinner one night.

I also think stress/fatigue has a big part to play as well.