Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

@questabellatreetop I hope you get the treatment you need and start to feel a bit better soon, I can't imagine how bad you are feeling I'm so lucky I got treated at my hospital before they even checked my urine. But I was very tachycardic so I think that's why they did it. So you will definitely get fluids!
@bitzy12 sorry to hear you've had a rough time. Comments like that are very annoying and tbh from what I've read on this forum it seems to be more about finding the right medication or combination for you rather than 'strength'. Odanestron did nothing for me apart from stop me going to the toilet! I'm on cyclizine which seems to stop the vomiting mostly.
On the up side I'm 16+2 and feel like I have turned a bit of a corner this week actually having periods where I don't feel nauseous. But now when I am getting it it feels very intense I imagine this is because I am having 'normal' times where I can actually do something like put the washing away without vomiting! So while it's not gone I'm hoping that this is a proper turning point and not another cruel couple of days where my body teases me again!

Questa hope you are getting some fluids and intravenous meds and feeling better.
Boo well done on getting through a day at work!
Aw12345 hi! The vet world is very small indeed!
Bitzy hope you are ok, I agree with the ignore/block that person and forget it - but easier said than done!! I believe ondansetron is the most potent antiemetic they use, the only other drug they reserve until trying everything else I think is steroids so she may be on those - not 'stronger' just different!

Thanks for all the good luck wishes for me going back to work, didn't go so well , and not even HG related. Arrived at work and as I got out the car had a big gush of fluid - soaked my knickers and my trouser crotch. Only stayed in the building to change clothes (thank goodness for spare scrubs) and call the hospital. Had to go straight up for them to check it wasn't my waters as was odourless and colourless fluid. Thankfully baby seems fine and they couldn't see any sign it was my waters, they think I have an infection (hopefully thrush though I have no external signs of this) so have swabbed and I'm waiting for the results before starting treatment. Such a relief obviously that not my waters, but was a real scare and I was a blubbering mess. The Dr was really firm about signing me off for another few weeks with the stress of today, as well as the HG - so no work for me yet. Luckily work still being amazingly supportive.....

boredof gosh that sounds incredibly scary. I'm glad everything's ok and I'm also glad that you've got another week to take care of yourself. Rest easy tonight

I’m glad everything’s ok bored but how scary. That sounds terrifying.

bitzy I agree you definitely need to try and ignore that person. I expect a lot of comments about it just being morning sickness or I can’t be that bad surely when I go back to work. I think people just can’t associate with it very easily unless they’ve been through it.

I posted too early and didn’t finish my post. I just woke up from an awful bad dream. I hope that’s not going to be me awake now. Is anyone else getting frequent bad dreams? I seem to get them several times a week.

I've been having very vivid dreams, not generally bad but a bit stressful, if that makes sense?

I'm currently 8+5 and it's my third week in bed due to nausea and exhaustion. Travel sickness bands have helped, and cyclizine, but I find it really wipes me out, which is hard as I have a 5yold. My husband has bought me a wrist tens machine which has surprisingly helped too, I told my husband off as it was £80 but now I'm so glad I have it!
I wasn't this unwell with my first, I had two weeks off work early on, but was back to work until 35 weeks. I was nauseous from about week 6 until 16 but this just seems like a whole other level!
It has been really hard, mentally I've been questioning our decision to have another, and whether or not I can actually cope with this for another 8 weeks, or more! And then I feel really selfish as it was quick for us to conceive, and we have friends who have struggled and would gladly be unwell if it meant they were pregnant. I had a bit of a cry yesterday. It's just hard to see the light at the send of the tunnel sometimes.
I have at least woken up feeling more positive this morning, which is a plus :)

Yeah vivid dreams makes sense sabulous. I’ve had a lot of them but a fair few of them are really horrible too.

I was questioning everything when I was at my worst. Probably about the stage you are at now. I was doubting how I’d ever get through the pregnancy. It is doable though. It’s hell but somehow you get through it. I’m hopeful I’m coming out the other side now. I’m having a fair few better days. It could be down to the steroids I’m on though.

Thanks all for the ondansetron advice. My sodding dr is quoting nonsense again. So glad. Don't think at this point I could go back to throwing up.
Just sitting, waiting on my consultant for my section date.
Hot chocolate omg the constipation! Eating a kiwi a day used to help me but lately it's not shifting. I have considered necking a full bottle of lactulose!
Ohiwa I found it went in waves. I'd have some great days and then boom. I was really good week 26-30, I think and then it all came back. Hope it's shifting for you.

Sorry posted to early. Glad everything is ok boo, that would have completely freaked me out.
Bitsy she sounds a charm. Block her immediately while sticking your tongue out at her. It's not a competition. Let's be fair, who with hg would want to be in it? Ondansetron is it, I think. Though maybe steroid injections but I may have made that up. Baby brain will destroy me! Scotland is so rubbish for hg clinics. Aberdeen is a bit of a hike.
Hugs to all

@Sabulous oh my gosh I know how you feel! I have guilt from complaining about the HG because also very blessed to have got pregnant very easily (always think of people who struggle more and feel a lot of sympathy for them, must be very hard). I've cried a lot about it, and about feeling resentful of the baby, about nausea/exhaustion/pain from the vomiting, about going to work, about the thought of surviving week after week of this ordeal! All I can say is that people do get through it, we can do it and I'm so pleased you've found somethings that help you :-) I'm very thankful for this group of people who know how it feels!! Xx

Oh no bored gush sounds scary. I hope it's all sorted now.

I also have lots of bad dreams, I usually do when my period is due so definitely hormone-related for me

Thanks seize. Today has been better so I'm guessing I was just having a bad wave. I actually managed a really good meal today (my workmate went out and got me vegetarian steamed dumplings - they were SO good). Now I'm mainly struggling with the ondansetron constipation again...I mainly rely on doxylamine for the nausea and vomiting - one dose of ondansetron constipates me for days.

Sabulous I really relate to what you wrote. I've spent most of my pregnancy really questioning our decision to have another - I just had no idea how hideous and relentless this sickness could be. I hated being stuck in bed and felt like I was missing out on life and I felt so guilty that I couldn't spend time with my kids. If it's any consolation the really awful exhaustion lifted at the end of the first trimester and even though my nausea hadn't gone at least I had more energy. I did have a bit of a regression over the last week but nowhere near as bad as the first 14 weeks. At 8 weeks is a very challenging time
Bored - sorry your return to work didn't go as planned. Hope you can rest up

Sorry some of you are having such a rough time at the moment.

I off to my brothers wedding today, wish me luck. I was meant to be doing a reading but have asked my sister to do it instead.

I don't think anyone else understands but the nausea, couple with the low bp and dizziness of I stand still (on top of general exhaustion) is just awful. They just think I'm a drama queen probably.

Anyway, the sickness during the day has crept back in. 4 times yesterday, and two today so far.
Really hope I'm not sick again. Just done my make up haha

Hope everyone has good or better days!

Hi after some help I've been on cyclizine for about 6 days and I thought things were improving but today I am back to square one feeling dizzy sick and vomiting. I'm 7 weeks and I've been prescribed stemetil too which I took alongside the cyclizine to start with but was really spaced out so am reluctant to start them back up.

I just feel so upset at not being able to be a very good mum to my little boy. It's a bad day today I know he'll be good and bad days but i was hoping the cyclizine would keep me out of bed

How is everyone doing today?

I hope the wedding goes ok foody.

songbird I felt just the same about not being a good mum to my children but I’m coming out of it very slowly at nearly 14 weeks (fingers crossed). I don’t think too much damage has been done. If anything I think my youngest has enjoyed being able to watch endless tv while I’m collapsed on the sofa unable to move. Your little one will be fine. It feels like a long time but it will soon pass and he will probably forget about mummy being poorly.

I’m not having such a great day today though. Lots of queasiness right now and dry heaving earlier. I’m completely exhausted. With it being a nice day yesterday I did a very slow half hour walk and I suspect I’m paying for it today. I’m due back at work in 2 weeks and really worried how I will cope now as it’s a physical job where I’m on my feet all day.

hotchocolate try not to worry about work at the moment. a lot cab change in two weeks. If you're not up to it, back to the gp and signed off for some more time - there is no shame in protecting yourself and your baby!!

foody hope wedding goes ok. I went to a wedding whilst pregnant. Was sat at a table at the front. Had to push past 100 ppl in the middle of the best man's speech to go puke. Very nice of my friends to put us on such prominent table, but it made the puke run fun....!

Thanks eallison I do hope it changes over the next couple of weeks and I feel quite a bit better. I’m so grateful I’m not as bad as I was even 3 weeks ago but frustrated that I’m still not well. That doesn’t sound like a fun puke run at the wedding you went to! Not that they can ever really be fun I suppose.

I’ve been in bed for a couple of hours now and managed a hot cross bun and some squash. I feel a bit better for it. Thankfully not being sick at the moment.

Rushing on to welcome Scabulous. As you are a veteran, even if it wasn't so bad before, I don't need to come out with my 'flat full sugar coke, the juice of tinned fruit...have you got kesotix to check for dehydration' spiel. I am glad the tens machine is helping. Are you on any meds? Can you get a lot of rest, which helps so much?
bitzy That so called friend is being insensitive. But there is no pleasure in being very ill - I always call this, 'The thread that nobody wants to be on'.' Well, nobody sane, anyway! Your five admissions indicates a very bad case of Hyperemesis. They can add cyclizine or metoclopramide or stemitil to Ondansetron (and I believe some comibine a couple of those; I'm not a pharmacist, so I don't know the biochemestry. Also, they can add B6, and various anti acids, can also make a massive difference. Have they tried those for you? They can give poeple steroids, as they have with hotchocolate and a few others on here.
hotchocolate and everyone. Sorry about the bad dreams. Put them down to an upset stomach! I had dreadful ones; they mean nothing.
Songbird While I stopped at one, all that I have seen on this thread indicates LO's get over a period of comparative neglect very quickly. They are resiliant. It might be worth asking Pregnancy Sickness Support on 024 7638 2020 for advice on possible other combinations. They always ring back with good advice.
bored How alarming! I am so glad you are OK, and that you have been signed off again.
Foodylicious I hope all is well at the wedding.
Hugs to all who feel down, if they wish them, or cyber pats.
Waves to seize nails AW12345 hotchocolate eallison and everyone.
Sorry if i've overlooked anyone.

RockinRobinn

Hi everyone,

Thank you for the well wishes. I've been in hospital since Thursday, still have keytones and trying every medication😢cyclizine by IV seems to work but I've been waiting for three hours to be re cannulated since my arm is too sore to take any more fluid where the cannula is currently placed.
Does anyone have any experience of the deep muscle cyclizine injection? They've only been giving it that way for a year and the midwife said there is no way of knowing what side effects it might have on the baby.

Morning all, thank you all for such a warm welcome :) I hope everyone managed to have a decent sleep last night (haha!) Does anyone else find that you feel worse after a bad night's sleep?

I didn't know about the full fat coke being flat, I'll give that a try, thanks :) I've been avoiding fizz and only having water so it might be nice to drink something with flavour (I might regret saying that!).

I'm definitely not a veteran at this! My last pregnancy I had nausea every day until I think 16 weeks, and went to bed as soon as I got home from work, but this feels like a whole other ball game. the nausea and exhaustion have been quite debilitating this time, 3 weeks in bed so far! I notice that if I don't wear my wrist tens machine for a short amount of time, that I am suddenly aware of my stomach, and it's really quite intense, so my occasional showers are short, haha!

I've woken up feeling a bit more mentally positive today, I think it helps that I don't feel as awful as I did on Thursday, which was a pretty awful day.

I don't know about cyclizine as an injection, would it not have the same effect on the baby as the pill version? Ie none?

Questa so sorry to hear you are still in hospital. How awful for you . Have you managed to eat anything yet? Ketones are produced when you are not taking in enough food so go into negative energy balance and start breaking down your body fat. It always puzzles me (I'm a vet) that in people they sometimes seem to just concentrate on flushing them out with fluids and expect that to resolve them from what a few people have said on here, if you aren't keeping down food your body will keep producing them.....
Not sure about the cyclizine question I'm afraid, are they saying by that route it lasts longer (like a depot injection)? I think some formulations of cyclizine can be given into a vein or muscle, but can't see why the effects on the baby would be any different between the two. Maybe they are using a longer lasting formulation? It's hard, but you need to get better and if that is the best option for you in their opinion I would follow their advice, can you speak to a Dr about it?
Really hope you get home soon.

Hot chocolate try and not think about work. I've been off since September and though I don't recommend it, it's made me realise that they can manage fine without me and have done. Apart from calling to advise my fit note details, I haven't heard from a soul. I've been there 10 years!
Questa hope today brings better things for you. Thinking of you.
Sabulous I'm so much worse when I'm tired. I was terrible for having a good day, doing too much and then feeling terrible for the next few days.
Hugs to all

Sabulous glad you are feeling a bit better today (mentally at least!). I am similar to you - bad nausea with some vomiting until 20 weeks last time, worked full time etc
This time completely floored and in a different league! Am now coming upto 19 weeks and with meds the vomiting is very occasional and nausea a lot better. My little girl is 2 and is back to full on mummy's girl after several weeks of me being in bed doing nothing! You wouldn't be human if you didn't question what you were doing putting yourself through such an ordeal, but it does get better!
Hope everyone else has reasonable weekends. I have been fine since my scare on Thursday, more nauseous as not slept that well, but ok otherwise.

Sorry to hear you are still in hospital questa. I haven’t tried the cyclizine injections but I think if nothing else was working I would try them in the hope I could manage to keep some food and drink down after. I do hope you have a better day today. Are your ketones coming down at all?

I am feeling very nauseous today. I can’t believe a slow walk has made me feel so poorly when I did nothing else so maybe I was just due a few off days. I do have bad indigestion so perhaps that’s not helping.

My main concern with work is that I won’t be able to afford any more time off but I’ll have to play it by ear. I’m part time so maybe they’ll allow me to work more shifts but shorter ones and see if that’s more manageable if I struggle.

bored I’m glad you are doing ok since your scare. It’s a shame about the increased nausea though. I hope that wears off soon.