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Husband wants abortion. First baby, unplanned. I'm so sad.

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Bibonks · 05/01/2018 12:48

Hi all,

I'm in such a spin over this.

I'm 27, husband has just turned 29. We've been together 9 years, married for 2.

He's just finishing a PhD in philosophy and is applying for postdoc positions. I have a good, stable job in a university library, with great maternity leave / pay.

I've had two abortions with him, both due to contraceptive failure (we seem to be ridiculously fertile). The first time was an easy decision for me to make. The timing was absolutely wrong, we had no money, no stability, and could barely look after ourselves, let alone a baby. I was very early in the pregnancy and in no way did I think of it as a 'baby'.

The second time was harder. It turned out I was pregnant during our wedding; I found out about 5 days afterwards. I still made the decision, and I haven't regretted it, but it was far more stressful than the time before. We had a house by then, were settled, happy, with more financial stability. I'd thought of baby names. My husband knew it was hard for me, but didn't [I]really[/I] understand.

Since then I've been broody. I've talked over having children with him numerous times, and he wants to wait for another 5-10 years. I don't know if he is just stringing me along on this - I think he'd be happy if I said I never wanted kids.

I don't want to wait for a number of reasons, but one of the most pressing is that my parents are getting older (both now in their 70s), his parents are not in the best of health (his dad recently had prostate cancer and there's a risk it'll come back, his mum has just been diagnosed with Parkinson's and is already shaky), and I want them to have quality time with their grandchild while they're still fit and healthy enough to enjoy it. In another ten years' time, who knows what the situation will be - they may not be here, or we may well be caring for them.

After lots of soul-searching, I'd just sort of come round to the idea of waiting. I decided I'd make the most of my life, throw myself into work, distract myself from feeling so broody. But then my body seems to have played a trick on me. Thought I had the flu. Nope. HUGE dark BFP. Currently 4-5 weeks.

Obviously, my husband was terrified. He sort of assumed I'd get another abortion. But I can't. I can't face it. What do we do, just keep throwing away babies until the stars align and everything is perfect? It'll never be perfect. There'll always be something wrong. He seems to think getting an abortion is like getting the flu jab.

Yesterday he said that he'd been thinking lots about our 'situation' and that he'd decided we could 'compromise' by getting an abortion now and then definitely trying again in 5 years. I said an abortion wasn't a compromise, and that I wouldn't be getting one.

My husband is absolutely devastated. He is being incredibly cold towards me. He is saying things like 'it's like a prison sentence', 'I feel like a void has opened up in my life', 'you're going to hate being a mum', 'things will never be the same between us', 'you're being selfish'. I've tried to listen sympathetically. I know it's a shock. I know he's scared. I was an unplanned pregnancy too, and my Dad reacted in much the same way. He pressured my mum into an abortion, and it was only when they got to the clinic that my mum told him if he made her get one, she'd never love him again. He changed his mind. And as soon as I was born he was besotted, he's a wonderful dad, and equally I love him more than I can say. (I told my husband this and he just said 'great, just carry on the family tradition'.)

I hate this. I'm not a person who has a wide group of friends and confidantes. My husband is my world and my best friend, and without his support I feel utterly bereft and alone. I'm happy about this pregnancy. I've started taking my vitamins and researching birthing suites and thinking of names and I'm so excited. But I can't share any of it with him. And it's making me doubt my decision. Am I just being sentimental? Should I just get an abortion now before I get too attached? I've done it twice before, so really, what's different this time? But then I think about the little bean growing inside me and just feel so utterly sick at the thought of terminating.

Has anyone experienced this? Do you have any advice? Will he come round? Any reassuring words would help.

OP posts:
GeorginaFall · 06/01/2018 09:09

Basically what everyone else has said on here...

  1. I am really, really sorry for the dreadful situation you are going through - I don't know you but I am sure you don't deserve it. Big hugs.

  2. I had some fertility struggles aged 26 - as mentioned by some other posters, fertility decreases dramatically as time goes by. In 5 years it may not be the time!

  3. From the sounds of things, I highly doubt that your husband will agree to a baby in 5 years. Sounds like he is fobbing you off.

  4. It sounds like you sort of regret the second abortion. I really don't think you should be bullied into a third. You have great maternity care etc via work - you are married with a house. How is this not the perfect time? Even without your husband, sounds great to me!

Best of luck xx

FacelikeaBagofHammers · 06/01/2018 09:15

OP, wishing you all the best with your pregnancy. You will be an amazing mother no doubt, well done for standing up to the guilt tripping!

I'd be still mad at DH, but hopefully now that he's accepted it, he's going to have a change in mindset and start looking forward to being a parent.

He still owes you big time!!

AdaHopper · 06/01/2018 09:34

Congratulations OP!!

I fell pregnant through contraceptive failure the first time I slept with (now)DH. He freeked out and also tried to presuure me into an abortion. I was 29 at the time, had a good job and owned a nice appartment. He promptly moved himself in, I think to feel more in control. He even got me going round to his sisters to get her to help convince me.
He was all ‘you’re ruining my life’.
I went to councelling to investigate if I could change my mind myself. The answer was that I couldn’t. I wanted the baby.
One day, after him telling his mother and expecting her to be disappointed in him, he came home with a bottle of bubbly. His mum had changed his mind.
He was still pretty aweful for the next 18 months though. Regularly breaking into the ´I have no control over my own life ´ routine. At one point I said: fine, I’ll leave and you can have your life back. That is when he proposed and has never said anything negative again. We have 3DC now.

So, I get how you feel. Wonderful men can act like real arses when they feel scared and out of control. When they do come around though, they can still be wonderful men (not guaranteed of course).

Good luck! And stay strong

anothernetter · 06/01/2018 09:47

I've not read all the posts on this thread but it sounds like he's come round to the idea of having the baby with you. I'm so pleased for you. Someone on MN wrote a post a couple of weeks ago where they had an abortion when they weren't sure and they ended up deeply regretting their decision. I felt so sorry for her. I think as time goes on and your DH comes round to the idea he will be really looking forward to this next phase of your life together. It is a big change especially when it's your first baby but it's also amazing and I'm sure when the baby arrives he will look back and wonder why he had any doubts.

NotSureThisIsWhatIWant · 06/01/2018 09:50

What a change, obviously he really cares about what people thinks of him so is changing the tune at the risk of being seen as a bad guy.

Or it may be the typical bully who cowers and cries in a corner when his victim hits him back.

Be careful OP, he needs to gain your trust. It is actions, rather than words, what hold the truth.

diddl · 06/01/2018 09:59

What I would find hard to get over is that Op didn't really want the last abortion & then his first response is to suggest another.

They've been married for 2yrs, aren't on their uppers-why wouldn't he even consider keeping it?

dorislessingscat · 06/01/2018 10:06

Congratulations OP.

I think if he imposes a condition like "never tell the baby/anyone about my initial reaction" you need to do the same with him. If he even hints to you in the future through words or his behaviour that he resents your decision to have the baby then all bets are off.

I am hopeful for you and your DH but the early weeks and months are very testing on couples. Don't feel like you have to do the lion's share because you wanted the baby and he didn't. You are equals in parenting and in life.

Good luck. You sound lovely and amazing Thanks

MissWimpyDimple · 06/01/2018 10:07

I think you'll be ok OP.

Circumstances were different but I went through similar. He never really came around to the baby until she was in his arms. But he ADORES that kid. We aren't together anyway and he has three more but she is the apple of his eye.

It sounds like you are in a great position for this and you are right, he's a planner. This wasn't in the plan so it's taken him time to adapt.

Rumpledfaceskin · 06/01/2018 10:13

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IfNot · 06/01/2018 10:34

Wonderful men can act like real arses when they feel scared and out of control.

Wonderful men? Really?
No, I don't agree. Ds's dad acted like an arse when I told him I was pregnant. And he is an arse.
Conversely a male friend of mine thought he had knocked up a casual fling, he was in his 20s, not wanting a permanent relationship or fatherhood. He told the young woman that he would respect whatever decision she made and financially support any child, as he recognised it was his responsibility.
Why do men, who have unprotected sex get a free pass to act like cunts as long as they "come around".
Nah, I would have lost all respect for him long ago love.
And God YES to making yourself a good support network. You are far to dependent on this man, you need a gang of good mates.
It was very telling to me when you said you would feel bad bitching about him to "his mother in law". She's not just "his mother in law" is she? She's your mum! I worry that he has isolated you, and you feel he is your only friend, whereas actually he is no kind of friend.

I hope you get to play happy families, but your husband will always be a selfish and controlling man. Sorry.

Aeroflotgirl · 06/01/2018 10:54

Your strong talk, probably kicked him into touch, also, he can't expect you to keep having abortions, because of him. Its not good for you or your body.

Anditstartsagain · 06/01/2018 11:02

My DP panicked with both your kids even though the second was planned he wasn't mean or nasty but it did put a damper on things. He's a great father and partner now but I do know other woman who it didn't work out for so prepare yourself to go it alone. I think my dp could see that I was going ahead with or without him so he knew he could eithet jump onboard or stay behind no middle ground.

LisaSimpsonsbff · 06/01/2018 11:16

The number of people on here who said their partner reacted like this with the their first child and then they went on to have more children with him is crazy. I can't imagine not being deeply put off a 'partner' who reacted like this. Don't you worry about what will happen when the chips are down in other situations - bereavement, illness, job loss? I couldn't ever trust someone who let me down like that when I really needed him.

IfNot · 06/01/2018 11:55

Me neither Lisa
To me the the mark of a man is how he reacts when something doesn't go his way.

topcat2014 · 06/01/2018 13:52

Haven't RTFT - what kind of an arse of a man pressurises his WIFE to have three consequitive abortions..

Makes me embarrased to be male

Furiosa · 06/01/2018 18:23

Sorry but I smell a rat, like to the point where I wouldn’t be touching anything he prepares for you to eat or drink.

Oh god what an awful thought but it was sort of what I was thinking too. Your husband has you having medical procedures because he doesn't like condoms. Your life together is all about him and now that you've put your foot down he's suddenly on your side?! Please be careful OP I don't trust him. I'm very suspicious now.

Take care Flowers

timeisnotaline · 06/01/2018 19:24

It still would bother me that he does seem a lying arsehole wip never wanted children but rather than discuss it with you would have liked to make empty promises until you were possibly past childbearing age so when you realised he is a selfish arsehole it might be too late for you to find happiness and have children with someone else. He never really thought or cared about how you feel did he?

MrsHathaway · 06/01/2018 19:39

I really don't get the feeling he'd poison her or push her down the stairs Hmm

But "the best father I can be" is an indefinite and low bar - "is that the best you can do?". No specifics about nappy changing or bath time or time off for Sports Day or reading bedtime stories.

Graphista · 06/01/2018 19:44

Not a case of poisoning her as such, plenty of substances that work as abortifacients that can be slipped into food/drink. Women themselves used to take them before abortion legalised in uk and still used in other countries.

It was a very fast very full turnaround by op's husband just think she needs to be cautious and I'm not the only one.

Orchardtree · 06/01/2018 19:54

Tell him to man up and take responsibility for once in his life. He can’t keep using emotional blackmail to force you into having abortions. It sounds like you have already bonded with this baby. I think you must follow your heart OP otherwise you will always regret it. Good luck x

Orchardtree · 06/01/2018 19:59

Sorry just caught up with your latest threads. I’m glad you managed to tell your DH how you felt and I hope he countinues to stand by you and the baby. All the best x

SammySays · 06/01/2018 20:04

Please don’t be forced into getting an abortion. If you want this baby then go for it and if I were you, I’d seriously consider my marriage too. It sounds as though he doesn’t want children and if he hasn’t been upfront with you about that I’d view it as grounds for divorce. Personally if it was me I imagine I would say ‘I want this baby, I am having this baby. If you don’t want to be a part of it then that is fine but if you decide that you do still want to be with me and raise our child then decide now and start supporting me.’ Make it clear that you won’t spend the whole of your pregnancy feeling guilty that you have a perfectly natural feeling of loving and wanting your child. He is not treating you fairly at all. You have already had 2 abortions, a third may damage your fertility so much that the choice of trying in a few yrs may be out of your hands. I am so sorry you are going through this, it must be so hard for you Flowers

jpclarke · 06/01/2018 20:23

Massive congratulations, lovely to read your update wishing you a healthy and happy pregnancy. Enjoy the buggy shopping that's a whole other worldGrin

Lweji · 06/01/2018 20:30

Personally if it was me I imagine I'd read the fucking thread.

SammySays · 06/01/2018 20:40

Lweji for some reason I thought there was only 1 page so I didn’t realise there was a full thread to read which obviously was a mistake. Clearly that has bothered your charming self Hmm