Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Didn't sounds like it unfortunately. You need to get back to gp and keep going back until you get meds to make it manageable. Unfortunately I didn't find anything helped with the nausea, hope you're luckier.

Get your partner to read this-
https://www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/help/information-for-carers/

You're not being lazy/dramatic. You're ill. He needs to get on board! The website above is brilliant if you need more info yourself, plus this group of course, they are amazing!

Keep trying to drink anything you can manage so you don't get dehydrated.
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Elephant* you're not going to be seen that way! You're an excellent mother already for seeking help

Herecomes the meds make me a bit shaky too. All the time though. Could it be that it coincides with low blood sugar because you haven't eaten for a while?

Natsku glad they take it seriously. I think you have valid concerns and I hope they help you manage them.

I'm feeling better after a morning in bed and a mega nap. Definitely over did it.

Weird bolding sorry!

Didn'tComeHereToFuckSpiders Welcome. As others say, if cyclizine - which is the one they usually try first, doesn't work, then do ask for another med. There are several safe ones, and combinations. A good anti acid like Omprazole or Ranitidine makes all the difference. Do invest in some kesostix from any chemists, to check for the early stages of dehydration. A headache, scanty urine and blurry vision are also signs of that. Some liqiuids and foods that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, soda water, orange squash, Elderflower Water, sips of chocolate milkshake, maybe soya, Lucozade, fizzy orange, Dr Pepper, Leomonade (flat) the juice of tinned fruit, slices of melon, slices of mango, tinned fruit, nibbles of chips and crisps, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream and jelly. Some swear by custard, too. Don't despair. This improves a lot for most somewhere between 14 and 20 weeks and even for the unlucky minority who suffer throughout, it is almost never as bad as earlier on. It is very hard for OH's to understand how overwhelming this is.
Elephantgrey I so agree with others - of course, you are not a bad mother for being honest.
HereComesAnotheron2018 That's a shame about vitamins - does she like Nesquick milkshakes? I believe there are added vitamins in those. I used to have to bribe my LO to eat her dinner with stickers for a sticker book.
justtheonethen I am glad that was probably only overdoing it. Take it easy.
seizethecuttlefish We were wondering earlier if you were OK. Glad you are jogging along. Sorry about early morning Bile Run. 'Parasite' is an objective description!
Waves to Natsku and anyone. Silly OH being so protective of his car!
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Elephant The midwife agreed with me that I should take 2 tablets a day so put in a repeat prescription request to GP (I've still got 5 days of medication).

Now my appointment did not go well... My usual midwife wasn't there (who I dislike anyway for saying I would have a fat baby because I had put on too much weight during pregnancy when I only managed to get back to pre pregnancy weight and put on a couple of kg because of HG).
I went through things with covering midwife. Due to HG, I lost 1.5kg in last 3 weeks, from private scan 2 weeks ago, baby is measuring small and my fundal height is 3cm behind. While going through my notes, she noticed that due to me being under 6lbs when born at full term and family history of issue with baby growth in womb, I should have been under consultant led care and have extra growth scans... but my usual midwife overlooked this.
So I am now having a scan and seeing a consultant next Friday with a week to worry that something might be wrong with my little boy

Thanks for all your help so far. I’m managing to eat a little bit (think slice of toast or handful of cooked pasta) in the evening as I seem to perk up a bit (still feel rough but actually can cope a bit) between about 4 and 7. Before that it’s strictly liquids and the odd biscuit/sweet I force down incredibly slowly when I know I need to. I’n Really worried about my protein intake, I’m completely off meat and dairy!

I’m in metaclopramide now. Took a dose before bed and then woke up vomiting at about 4. Had another dose at 8 and haven’t been sick yet but certainly don’t feel good.

What do people usually do about work in these circumstances? I took two night shifts off this week but I really hoped once I’d got some medication in, I’d be able to manage. I know it sounds stupid but I feel like because I'm probably well enough to avoid hospitalisation (not vomiting that much, do get some calories in sporadically) i SHOULD be able to work. Plus it’s only been a week and I’ve already lost the will to live!! Being at home is so boring!! My job isn’t the kind I can do at home or pop in for a bit if I feel up to it, I’m either there and fully capable or I’m not.

Sorry for all the grammatical and typing errors in that! 😳

You must be scared Orange but thank goodness your usual midwife wasn't there so you had one that was actually on the ball so now you can get the consultant led care you need.

Didn'tcomehere I strongly advise taking some sick leave until you've got your medications right enough that you feel able to cope with work as if you keep trying to work while still figuring out the right meds/dosage you'll just make yourself weaker and it'll be harder to get your strength back.

I agree with Nat orange it was a bloody good job she wasn't there. Il keep everything crossed for you but I'm sure it will all be ok. I want to know what's wrong with a fat baby I love a good bit of baby chub hehe, so cute. I don't know why ppl think they can say stuff like that especially a supposed professional.

Don't you can only do what you can work wise if you think you are up to it. Is there someone you can talk to about it all and see if getting some reduced duties maybe could work?

So I have to confess sickness is well and truly gone and mini b is a dream, so content only had 8 hrs sleep in last 5 days though yikes.

Hi, hoping I can join.
I'm around 10/40 with DC2 - conceived on the pill so not exact about dates
Had HG with DC1 - right up until the day he was born at 35+3. It's kicked in again big style now, I'm just finding the constant nausea so draining, and it almost seems worse this time because I feel like the end of pregnancy seems a long way off last time I got through it by thinking it would get better at 16,20,24 weeks etc.
I'm taking ondansetron three times daily which seems to keep the actual vomiting under control so it only 2-4 times per day but just spend a lot of time sleeping as it's wearing me out.
I'm still on mat leave with ds and due to go back on 29/1 (so I qualify for mat pay again 🙈) but at the moment don't know how I'm going to cope!
Sorry for the huge moan, just hoping to speak to people who know how bloody horrific this feels! Xx

Can I join? Just over 5 weeks and due in September and been diagnosed today with HG and put on cyclizine. Strong family history of it (sister and mum) and for over a week my sickness has increased to the level of anything - fluid or food - going in is bouncing straight back out again. Was going to sick out without medication but was at the GP today for another matter and he put me straight on the meds.

Hoping to get some tips on getting through to September!

Welcome to mummadave and namechangedtoscream.
mummadave Ten weeks is generally agreed to be the worst of the bad first tri. I am glad you've got Ondansetron. As you are a veteran, you don't need my advice about kesostix to check for the early stages of dehydration and suggested liquds and foods. Have they given you something for the inevitable constipation with Ondanseton, lactulose or whatever? As you are a veteran, it seems a nerve asking that. Also, did you find last time that an anti acid made all the difference, as so many do? Have you got good real life support in the way of childcare as you need all the rest you can?
namechangedtoscream Welcome. Sorry you are suffering. What meds did they give you? If they don't help enough, don't hesitate to go back to ask for others as there are several safe ones. Have you got keostix to check for the early stages of dehydration? They're available from any chemists. Some liqiuids and foods that have helped others: flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, ice cubes, soda water, orange squash, Elderflower Water, sips of chocolate milkshake, maybe soya, Lucozade, fizzy orange, Dr Pepper, Leomonade (flat) the juice of tinned fruit, slices of melon, slices of mango, tinned fruit, nibbles of chips and crisps, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream and jelly. Some swear by custard, too. Don't despair; things generally get a lot better for most sometime between weeks 14 and 21. Even those who suffer throughout rarely feel as bad as in the first tri, thank goodness.
Orange I am sorry fo the stress that you are undergoing. Six pounds is small but after all, babies are sent home at five pounds, so it does seem to me that you weren't given enough reassurance that this extra care is purely preventative. Cyber hugs on offer. It's horrible having to worry like this, as one worries anyway.
Ddin't You mustn't feel that you 'should' have to work. If you are too ill, there's nothing you can do about it. I believe if this wasn't pregnancy related, it would be taken more seriously,and at least, most employers have to be careful not to discriminate against you for pregnancy related illness.
Natsku Great advice.
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

All good here thanks Lucinda, feeling well and truly human again (though I can sympathise with Mustang on the sleep deprivation!). Our little girl has a bit of reflux so isn't the happiest bless her, but we're muddling through, still infinitely better than pregnancy.

Cheering you all on from the sidelines!

Thanks for the welcome. I've been put on cyclizine 50mg 3x a day. I'm not so bothered about the food side of things but I would like to keep some fluids down.

I've stocked up on ice pops so I hope they work! If not I'll try the other ideas thank you

Thanks everyone. I made sure when I called in sick (we have to use a third party sickness reporting service because that’s a cost effective use of NHS money ) I made sure that it was logged as pregnancy related when I was given the option so that it doesn’t come back to bite me with regard to my sickness record.

I've never tried her with nesquick milkshake Lucinda , but will definitely give that a try - thanks!

Yesterday was much more manageable. Even managed some pasta bake for dinner. I only had a small portion but I ate it all and then felt bloated for hours. I was so uncomfortable but pleased I was able to eat.

I woke up this morning and the nausea was really, really manageable. So much so, I nearly didn't take my tablet but thought I better have as I believe they have an accumlative affect? (I may be wrong). I felt like I was doing so well. Come 11.30am the uncontrollably shaking started, I was so weak I couldn't lift my arms up. The nausea is horrible, and I keep gagging. I've only been sick the once though.

I can't believe I'm not even 7 weeks yet until monday. I don't know How I'll manage another 7+ months of this :(

I've got my booking in appointment booked yesterday though so that's good news as then the ball will be rolling for me to have a consultant appointment as it's likely to be another ga c section.

Thanks @LucindaE !
I went straight onto ondansetron this time as it's what seemed to make a difference last time. I haven't actually tried anything else with it this time, don't know whether to bother or not? And the bloody constipation I took the ondansetron this time for about 2 weeks before I realised why I was so bunged up 🙈 it's on my to do list of things to organise this coming week, we were away for 2 weeks over xmas and ny hence it's not already sorted!
I might try some anti acid.. I took some towards the end of my last pregnancy but for bad reflux, again am at a point where I'm willing to try anything! Do people tend to say it makes a big deference? And any drug in particular?
Xx

Also interested in whether ranitidine or similar might help! You can buy the 75mg tablets over the counter can’t you?

The GP has only prescribed me 10 days of metoclopramide as apparently they don’t like to give it for longer... so what am I supposed to do after that?!

Hello newbies

Ranitidine makes a huge difference to me, supermarket stuff fine. You can take up to 150mg twice a day. I just get it prescribed though.
Lactulose is your best friend if you're constipated

You will wonder how you will get through but just take it day by day. Countdown to booking in app/scan etc rather than the end.

Pippa and mustang you sound like you're loving it! You're giving me the good vibes I need to get to the end!

Forgotten everything else

31 week midwife app done. No GD, hurrah! Bit anaemic but she said I can try and just get it up by diet as I don't want to take iron. Also now I'm eating again it should go up fine.
Baby is breech so hoping it turns!

I'm on 300mg ranitidine a day which i was on prior to pregnancy, stopped when I found and and today GP said it's a low dose and to stay on it. So you can go up quite high on it but speak to your Dr first. My dosage is prescription only.

Didn't I've been taking metoclopramide for 21 weeks . It's to avoid muscular spasms that can occur in you. Nothing to do with baby. Anyway, you can have it for longer so don't worry. If not ask for ondansetron. I have that, metoclopramide, cyclizine and prednisolone now. I rattle.

And ranitidine

I so agree with justtheonethen. Anti acids have made a huge difference to sufferers on here, and lactulose for Ondansetron caused constipation.

Will speak to the GP about it next week then. I’ve been really acidic for ages, long before the sickness started so I’m sure it can’t hurt!

Thanks for the advice, I will get in touch with my gp on Monday and ask for some ranitidine, need a repeat of my ondansetron anyway.
Has anyone got any experience of steroids? Have heard that for some it can make a big difference.
My dream is that this miraculously goes away 🤞🏼🤞🏼🤞🏼 although I don't think it will ☹️

Mumma I've been put on steroids, started them last week at 30 weeks and it's been miraculous. I feel fucking great! I still get a bit nauseous and I can tell when it's time to take my meds (still on ondansetron, metoclopromide, cyclizine and ranitidine) but it's a world of difference.
Not been sick once since steroids and only manageable nausea, usually when it's time to take other tablets. I can cook again, and eat, and function. Before this I was bed bound and had been admitted 11 times. 3 times in December.

It was a bit of a fight to get them, I was refused them on my last hospital admission. Thankfully I saw a sensible consultant after that.
I only wish I had fought for them at the start of second trimester (slight increase in risk of cleft palate before then).