Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is great: 024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.

So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Holly I too had a breech at 36 weeks - & HG the whole way through - I refused manual turning & was so upset at the thought of a C section.

I went on the spinning babies website & read everything I could; laid with my legs up the wall; crawled forward & off my bed onto the floor countless times…

Come the day of my planned section, I took all the pre meds, got a cab at 05:00 am to the hospital, booked in, all ready to go down to theatre, they did a quick scan to check the baby's position… & he'd flipped!

So they sent me home to await natural labour.

(Of course I ended up going almost 2 weeks overdue, being induced, & then having an emergency section, but that's by-the-by!)

Your baby could still move, don't lose heart!

TwoDrifters I remember you're being sent home. You were so disappointed! Baby had a wicked sense of humour. I believe you went out on long, waddling walks, too.

Oh Holly Why you, eh? But some hope from TwoDrifters there. You still have a couple of weeks, hopefully baby will wriggle back where he should be. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed for you.

My nausea has been rising for the last few days and I just threw up (in the toilets half way through my choir class. At least I got to the toilet!) for the first time in about a fortnight. Sigh, I knew it was too good to be true and would be back. At least it's nothing like it was for the first 16 weeks though, so I'll be grateful for that.

Glad the weather is cooling down a bit....

Holly with my first I was the same all the way up then he turned himself at 37 weeks. Someone recommended I get on all fours and rock side to side. I don't know if that's what did it but worth a try!

Like twodrifters I also went on to have an emergency section but for unrelated reasons. I was advised to have a planned one this time and don't feel anxious about it but totally appreciate its not your preference. For what it's worth after pregnancy/birth not going exactly to plan most things afterwards came quite easily! I breastfed for almost a year and other things came quite easily too. I didn't suffer from pnd and to be honest before the baby came I felt like you, if it can go wrong it will but fingers crossed your luck will turn!

I'm just back from hospital after getting the chicken pox vaccine. Ouch. Felt like it was burning!! Didn't go in my arm either.... That worry has now passed though

Sorry, slow on the reply again. Thanks for the replies, lactulose seems to be helping keep things manageable although it's still very uncomfortable - I find the pain from trapped wind (at least it feels similar to that) unbearable, think ! little one is good at pushing on all the sore bits too!

I don't suppose this heat has helped - been with the in laws who live on the coast which is cooler when outside but they don't like to have any windows open and the room we stay in is like a sauna (one of our windows is locked to prevent opening and oh was told off for having the other window open overnight!) I wouldn't mind but last year I struggled with the heat there when not pregnant so had said there was no way we were visiting in August thus year but of course it would coincide with a heatwave still!

I have stopped my iron tablets for now - will see the dr next week to discuss options but wondered if anyone has come across liquid iron? Or any other alternatives which are gentler on the system? It seems like the side effects of constipation, nausea and vomiting are an unnecessary addition to the hg life. Currently hoping that allowing hg to settle for a few days might mean I can restart the iron. I do want my iron levels up as I would like to try a water birth.

holly my lg was breech until 36 weeks and I had been following all the advice about getting babies to turn, and had lost heart that she would by that point. I'm not really sure what turned her in the end, tho I did use a birthing ball rather than a chair a lot, which I found comfier and maybe bouncing on that did help. Hoping your little one does turn for you.

Thanks to everyone for your replies, you've really helped make me feel better about taking the drugs. I also drank two whole glasses of elderflower cordial and soda after it was suggested yesterday, unheard of for me to take that much liquid on board for the last week at least!

Mammabear you could try spatone, it's liquid sachets of iron rich water. I find it'so easier to put some in a glass of apple juice, but needless to say I've not had any recently. I took it throughout my last pregnancy though and it helped curb my anaemia.

Mamabear floradix may be a suitable alternative? That's what my midwife recommended to me when my iron was borderline. She couldn't prescribe it but you can buy it for about 10 pounds I think. It's about a moth full you take and not really unpleasant at all. I picked it up in Holland and Barrets but I noticed it in asda recently.

Holly I forgot that I also swapped my seat for a ball to try and get the baby to turn!

Hi everyone

I'm back from our holiday - wow things have moved fast! The holiday was okayish the jet lag made the vomiting and nausea worse for the first two days then I actually felt ok for the next two days, evenings were bad and all I could do was sleep so felt a bit bad for my dp as he spent a lot of time looking at the hotel ceiling

Flight back was a night flight and awful to be honest glad it's over and I'm back in my new bed, it was nice to have a change of scenery though and I managed to do my hair and make up each day which was a nice change.

I have my nifty scan and blood test today so should hopefully get the all clear for any chromosome abnormalities in the next week or so and added bonus of finding out the gender . I am so nervous about scans - I have this terrible anxiety that they won't find a heartbeat and it really scares me when they start scanning until they confirm all is well. It's probably down to a previous missed miscarriage.

Anyway I'm off to update myself on what's been happening for the last week love reading through all your updates (not the posts where you are suffering tho )

Flossy: sorry you struggled a bit on holiday and I hope you managed to enjoy yourself at least some of the time.

Holly: so sorry to hear of more complications just when it looked like things were finally in your favour. I will keep my fingers crossed that he turns in time

Hollyhop As below - I am so sorry that you have been served an ill turn by fate in this pregnancy - yet again - but the baby may yet turn, and there is the 'escaping vaginal damage' bonus I mentioned below.
TwoDrifters suggestion of visiting the 'spinning babies' website is a great idea, and taking up that ball bouncing is recommended, I believe.
Flossyfloss I do sympathise about dreading scans because of a previous mmc. I had the same. It spoils things. Most people who have had one in the past seem to be the same. You tell yourself that statistically, the chances are massively in your favour, but the dread remains. Hugs.
MagnumAddict I am so glad you are protected. Sounds a nasty injection to have!
robindeer I am so glad that combination helped.
lemondrop Sympathies over choir vomit- but congratulations on making the loos. Do you think the mechanics of singing set it off?
Much sympathy to all, waves to Thingymaboob DeadDoorPost HaichM Melleebacca and everyone. Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.

Afternoon... the strange dreams have continued although right now I don't remember the crazier one I had. Just woken up from one where I was bitten by a snake though.

Took me a while to get to sleep because for some reason all I could think about was the possibility of having the baby prematurely and what that would mean. Would it survive if it was born now at 18 weeks? Would I be able to cope? I guess I'm starting to worry about stupid things now coz I also asked DH if it was a bad thing that I'm still not showing yet. It just feels like everyone else I know was by now so why aren't I?

I think I just need something to take my mind off of it.

flossy sounds like you at least got something from the break, it's just a shame about all the flying. With scans, it seems to take so long for them to say "everything looks good..", it must feel Like an eternity when you've already experienced an mmc.

holly a couple of people I've known had their baby get in position after being breech around 36 weeks, one after turning, the other naturally. Fingers crossed for you, you deserve to catch a break.

I've been signed off for a couple of weeks and put in metochlopromide. Bit worried about the metochlopromide because they've given me just over two weeks worth- is that normal? Keep seeing 5 days max. Nausea is definitely improving and being sick one session a day

DeadDoorPost it's horrible how it gets to you with the worrying about everything and the frankly intrusive thoughts! Not having crazy dreams, just can never figure out what's going on after I wake up, just get really confused.

Hi guys. This thread is moving fast. @flossyfloss I'm glad you had some good spells on your holiday. The return plane journey sounds like a nightmare.

I had a good day yesterday, got excited and ate a Wagamama. I've only really eaten hula hoops for weeks. Anyway, I'm paying for it big time today. Couldn't even keep hula hoops down. Threw up in the shower. Feel bloody awful. It also appears that my sick note has been lost in the post so bloody stressed about that as need a duplicate and GP only works part time ☹️.

nonstop I was told the guidance is only because some people get side effects. So long as you don't get twitchy it's perfectly safe to take for longer than 5 days. And even if you do get side effects they stop as soon as you stop the tablets and they don't harm the baby.

I have thrown up everything that has passed my lips today for some reason. I wish there was more logic to HG so I could at least have a vague idea what and when I might be able to eat.

Sorry you're having a bad day Oklahoma and thingy, and glad you enjoyed a couple of days at least of the holiday flossy though the flight sounds tough!

Today I'm feeling sorry for myself (again!). All trivial stuff, no energy after a bad day yesterday, but I had to venture out to the shops (a half hour endeavour) before I picked up DD from playgroup this morning. I am now totally wiped out, and feeling utterly useless that I can't even do something basic like go to the supermarket and pick up DD without lying down for the rest of the day. To make it worse, I couldn't even get what I needed from the shops and partly wet myself after sneezing (whilst not wearing a pad, thank god for a long blouse...), so had to spend the rest of the morning in wet knickers.

Thanks ladies - scan was perfect and measuring two days ahead when she first started scanning I could tell the baby had grown but couldn't see the heartbeat until she pointed it out and it was utter relief. It's amazing how much they grow in 2-3 weeks at this stage! Baby was swimming around like a little fish from top to bottom and round and round! Got a couple of pictures that aren't the greatest because he/she wouldn't keep still! Get the results of the harmony week after next so hopefully all will be ok and we will know the gender!

Holly one of mine lo's was breech at 36 weeks but had turned but the week after x

Thank you oklahoma luckily no side effects, and as long as I take them at the right time they work way better than everything else. Feel crappy still, but much better than just a few weeks ago.
Ah pippa, that's no good about your supermarket trip. I know you know this, and everyone says it, but you're not useless, basic stuff isn't basic at the moment, but you're ill and growing a child, body is working harder than ever. Damp knickers are still the worst though, so uncomfortable!
Glad scan went well flossy. I've got my 20 week scan in a couple of weeks, im looking forward to it and actually getting excited about pregnancy!

Flossy - glad to hear about the positive scan, and the holiday. Sounds like you did really well considering. I'm so impressed.

Deaddoor - I'm only just starting to show at almost 32w. I have a long torso and combined with the HG weight loss, I hide babies really well, so don't panic. A lot of first time mums don't start to show until after 20w anyways. Midwife might send you for extra scans later along to check babies growth, most HG babes are big though.
In order to calm my fears, I look at the science/stats. 24w is viability, where you have a 50% chance of baby's survival. 34w is when there's practically no chance of baby having serious development issues and 36w/37w is when lungs are fully developed so hospital stay may only be a day or two longer than normal.

Holly - thinking of you. Hope you're coping alright.

DeadDoorPost Dreams when pregnant are bizarre, but talk about Freudian significance in the 'bitten by a snake' one because in Freud, snakes equals the penis, and you might say that you have been bitten by (ie made ill by) 'a snake' indeed! .
NoneStopDisco Great advice from Melleebacca on metoclopramide. Glad you feel slightly better for it.
Oklahahoma Sorry you feel foul today.
pippasnippa Sorry to hear of wet knickers,too- in the heat a couple of days ago, they would have dried in no time but it's quite breezy and not hot here at least.
Flossyfloss Lovely news that scan was fine.
Thingymaboob Sympathy about feeling horrible together with a lost sick note.
Mellebacca How are things?

Hi can I join you all again? I posted a while back. I'm 27 weeks and feeling awful and quite miserable. I feel guilty about being a rubbish mother to my toddler who is watching yet another episode of Hey Duggee. He wakes up at 5am so I'm so tired. All the drugs I've tried either haven't worked or make me so tired I can't do anything. I know I need to just get through this but it's so hard.

Lules please don't feel guilty

Mines been chucked back into bed with her iPad this morning too.

Your the same gestation is me 27 weeks is nearly the finish line a bit extra screen time and snack food won't kill them.

Have you any family who could give you a couple of hours break?

Lules Sorry you are feeling so downhearted, and none of the drugs have helped. It is very hard, and I take my hat off to those who manage to get through this Scourge with a toddler. As UnbornMortificado says, don 't feel guilty. From what people have said on these threads over seven years or so - I''ve never heard of any toddler being emotionally scarred from this period of comparative neglect, and s/he'll have a sibling, the greatest possible gift. Remember that a few generations ago, mothers never entertained their children at all and couldn't give them much individual attention - they didn't have the time off from housework, with no mod cons. And did those children grow up emotionally scarred? Of course not.
Meanwhile, the health of the body, which of course, makes you feel desperate. Does the doctor say that there are more options? How are the foods/liquids staying down? Are tinned fruit and its juice, nibbles of crisps, cuppa soup, cheap ice cream or melon any good? Ice lollies, flat full sugar coke, Elderflower water, or sips of chocolate milkshake any use - maybe soya?

Thank you. My mum has been great but she can only really come up in the afternoons and that's when I usually feel ok.

I can normally keep drinks down but food is trickier. Ice lollies are good. It's the nausea more than the vomiting which is getting me down. At least if I'm sick I feel better for a bit after.

I think I'm feeling particularly down because I felt better for a few days but then it's been really bad this week. I've had to go to the MDAU twice. The IV drugs are brilliant but the effect doesn't last long. I do have a couple of weeks off work and my husband is off next week too so hopefully I can get some rest.

Flossy, glad you survive your trip and your scan went well.

Door, I'm having bizarre dreams too. Some horrid, some boring. Last night I was being driven around in a convertible in the snow in Russia Weird and boring...

Ergh, sickness is definitely back. I had about 10 glorious days where I felt human and had stopped my medication. Nausea has been building since Wednesday though. Caved and took an ondansetron just now as I have a family BBQ to get through this afternoon.

Excited as the nursery mural should be getting painted on Monday Need to clear the room tomorrow, then I can start filling it with baby things. Also only about a week off the third trimester. Yay! There was a point I never thought I'd get here

Hope everyone has a sick free weekend. Are you feeling better Holly?