Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Doesn't matter what your mum's Pregnancy was like.. this is your pregnancy and you're very ill with it.. you must must get help asap as tomorrow is a bank holiday too and so you may as well go tobight.. it will be quieter now too.. honestly I got so dehydrated I was in a state and it was hard to get back from that.

Dp whatever you can to get some fluids in you.. can you nibbke bits of melon or cucumber of you can't handle any fluids? Even if you bring it up again some may rt in your system.

111 for out of hours referAl, or a and e . You're not wasting their time.. you will be a high priority patient.. I was seen immediately and told I should have gone earlier

Hope you're ok

Evening all. This thread has become, sadly, so busy it is hard to keep up. I'm sorry to those who are particularly suffering at the moment.

I'm just here for a moan sadly. Family party was ok, I was sick but some family members were a bit nicer afterwards, I guess its harder to ignore something right in front of you.

This morning I woke up not feeling nauseous for the first time all week so was feeling pretty happy. It hasnt lasted though, its been back and really bad this evening. I am feeling so bloody depressed about it. I know that I'm so close as everyone loved telling me yesterday but honestly, I am just beyond fed up of this soul destroying nausea. I cant even cry about it anymore, I'm just sat here feeling so depressed. Its been 32 weeks and I have completely had enough of feeling like this.

Hollyhop Poor you. For those who have the misfortune to suffer throughout, it is such a long, hard slog, and all the harder when there are family celebrations, and fine weather. You will get there, taking it one day at a time.

Deaddoor - I hope you've been admitted. My midwife recommends going to A&E on weekend evenings as they won't have OB/GYN people on the floor, so you can get admitted, rehydrated and put in the system, rather than getting a quick look over and being sent on your way.

Holly - in just a few days it will be June and you will be so much closer to meeting your little bundle. I do sympathize with you. It's so hard with time dragging slowly.

Hi everyone mind if I join you all?

I'm currently 9 weeks with my second baby, and have been hospitalized 4 times already due to the dreaded HG. I've been left to manage with cyclizine unfortunately but seeing a consultant re ondansetron on Thursday

Suffered badly with HG in my first pregnancy also but unfortunately it seems a lot worse this time around.

As awful as it sounds, it is comforting to know there are others who are experiencing the hells of HG also! Xx

Welcome Peardrops! Sorry you've had to join us. 4 times. .. you're a trooper. Someone with better introduction skills than me will be along soon!

I am also pregnant with baby number 2 and I hoped soo much to avoid hg this time.. can't be worse than last time I said... how wrong was I haha. I am 21 weeks now and past the worst hardest days which is sounds like youre in the midst of. Glad you've got the consultation booked. Cyclizine works quite well for me but I know a lot of people don't find it makes a deny so hope you get something that works better for you. How are you getting on with having another one to look after too? Are you managing to get much any rest? Hang in there

Holly really sorry to hear you're having a crap day :( well done for surviving family party. Trooper. The 30s weeks are so hard as you get to 30 think woohoo finish line in sight but they drag and drag and it's little comfort when you feel as bad as you do. I am having a goodish few days which I always feel a little guilty for when on here.. sending some your way

Welcome peardrops, sorry to hear you, holly and deaddoor are all having a bad time at the moment.

Is anyone else awake right now? I'm exhausted but can't sleep thanks to a combination of nausea and the fact that it's boiling hot! Really trying to fight the urge to vomit as this dinner tonight is the only food in the last 2 days that's stayed down and I'm starting to run on empty. Sending husband out for ketostix tomorrow, but wondering in the meantime, how do you decide at what point to go to hospital? I'm thinking if it's another bad day tomorrow it might be time to think about going in, but am worried I'll be laughed out of the place. I am still keeping some liquids down, not much, but enough to keep me feeling terrible, but ticking over if you know what I mean?

Hey Holly come hang out with me in the "30 plus weeks, yes I'm still throwing up, no I'm not eating another fucking ginger biscuit" corner

We're getting there... each day takes us a step closer and one two,three,etc. vomit down...

I've ready back through this thread, so so many new people. HG is evil.

Hello Peardrops, and welcome! Thursday seems a while away especially because you've been admitted 4 times already! Do you have some management techniques from your first pregnancy?

Hope Deaddoor has gone in as well.

flap I always feel guilty as well, but then when others are feeling better for a little while when I'm on a bad day, it helps remind that my good day will turn up as well.

And also I'm glad that others are getting some respite, it's been so very difficult for everyone here!

pippa I'm still up. I can't say at what point you're too dehydrated, but I think Lucinda has said upthread about headaches, blurry vision, lack of urine. i would say err on the side of caution and probably ring 111, but if you don't get better, go in.

My GP has been utterly useless, as well as out of hours GP. Been struggling alone. Been vomiting everyday and feeling very sick and exhausted for last 2 weeks. This weekend I was a bridesmaid, I was a mess. Vomiting all the time, generally miserable. Luckily there was a GP and midwife at wedding. The GP was so kind, she wrote me a prescription for ondansetron which has been incredible (we were far from home). I cannot believe how much it has helped. I have an appetite and I'm drinking water and not vomiting. It's been an incredible transformation. Was a bit worried about whether it would harm baby but was reassured by GP and midwife that it's used all the time. I knew I was getting dehydrated as mouth dry and not urinating much.

Lucinda Mellee Disco and Pippa sorry, had like a 4 hour nap. Funnily enough ive been able to urinate quite a bit but dont have dry skin or headaches. Have been sick 2 times though since I last posted I believe.. I'll phone in the morning as have no way of getting to hospital just now. But liquid is starting to stay down, thankfully.

Also with melons etc.. none in the house but I've tried that before and it is not an experience I wish to repeat. Ice lollies however... I can cope with those. They're wonderful.

Thanks for all the concern and help. Husband is home from work tomorrow so I'll have someone with me when whatever happens tomorrow. I'll keep you all updated.

Oh, and my lower back/ kidneys hurt I believe but I honestly don't know anymore. Just realised I've been ignoring the pain for a while.

thingymaboob oh that's good someone was there to help at the wedding. Perhaps your own GP will be more willing to prescribe if you've already been given ondansetron?
DeadDoorpost ice lollys- over this week fruit pastille lollies have been my saviour, glad there is something you can have to introduce fluids, and good thing you're keeping fluids down now, sounds like that should keep you from getting worse until you can make it to the hospital.

FFS I don't want to do this any more. It's not fair. Just so so fed up.

Thanks all. Four, I thought it would be better once I was in the 30s, but it is starting to feel worse. The closer I get the more depressing it is that I'm still not there and I'm still being sick and feeling nauseous.

Not complaining about anyone here, you are all saints, but I am so so sick of hearing 'oh well, not long to go now'. Like its nothing to be sick everyday for another 7 weeks. If I wasnt pregnant people would be quite concerned about that I reckon...

Just to top off my miserable day of nausea had been in bed for about 10 minutes last night before an epic throwing up session. That's me 5 days in a row now. Its not every meal, I can keep fluids down. So not sick enough for hospital but too sick to lead any sort of normal life.

Pippa, I would think about going in today. As awful as it is, most people seem to get something from the respite in symptoms.

I hope everyone has a good day and I'm pleased Flap and others are feeling a bit better at the moment. Long may it continue.

Oklahoma, snap. I'm beyond fed up, I'm fed up of saying I'm fed up. I am just desperate for it to be over. It is so shit.

Oh god Oklahoma, what's happened? Or is it just the usual shit grinding you down? If it makes you feel better you are a month in front of me not that I think it will, but I'm jealous lol.

Everyone seems to be really struggling it's really crap. I wish there was something that could be done to make this more manageable.

Holly - "if I wasn't pregnant people would be quite concerned". THIS! Because it can be blamed on something that is considered to be a positive event, for some reason it's regarded as ok. But it is not ok.

Peardrop - welcome. Fingers crossed you get ondansetron and it works miracles for you. Be prepared for the dreaded constipation.

Deaddoor - kidney pain sounds worrying. Is it mostly painful after vomiting? You would be surprised how many muscles get a workout from that.

Waves..

Yes to being fed up of being fed up. Yes to being sick of hearing 'not long now' (so tempting to tell people you try a week of this then hear how many you've got left and see how you feel). Yes to wanting it to be over because these weeks are dragging so slowly and another 9 to go seems too many (and I'm not suffering as bad sickness and nausea wise as many of you - it's the vertigo and discomfort driving me barmy).

Had a horrid evening on Sat : food wasn't all that good, it was too loud, couldn't get comfy at all (numb bum and tops of legs, lower and middle back pain, sharp pain at the top of my bump which i will be mentioning to my mw tomorrow as it's every evening and only on the left) and then I was sick for the 1st time in 15 weeks when we got home. Nearly didn't make it out of the taxi without being sick. It was such a bad one it felt like bits were stuck in my throat after and it was so sore. Thankfully not been so bad since. Just waiting to see if I'm back to being sick every few days or if it was some random, horrible one off.

So sorry to hear of everyone's suffering. What wonderful bank holiday weekends we are having! I'm off for a driving lesson in a few mins so hopefully that will distract me. Take care and best wishes to everyone

Okla and Holly you poor things and dead door and disco. This bank holiday seems to been a partucularly bad patch for lots of us. And I totally understand Holly.. 7 weeks ahead of vomiting is nothing to sniff at.

Maybe we should make an opposite (to the irritating stupid comment one) bingo grid too.. useful and supportive things people can say to us?

As just reading all these sad posts makes me so sad for you all and wish I could help but even going through it myself I honestly don't know what's best to say and I think the tempation to try and offer advice or encouraging words just comes naturally and is often the source of comments that actually make things worse not better. Adding "not long to go " to the original bingo grid holly!!

Right so for the positive suppose comment bingo grid here are a few to get us started

1. Would you like me to come to your doorstep and take your toddler out for a few hours so you can rest.. with no expectation of you inviting me in for a chat and cup of tea when I drop them off

1. "I've gone to the shops and got a few of all the things you say you can sometimes tolerate and stocked up the fridge with 18 types of sugar filled drinks so if you have a moment where you feel you can handle any of them they are there and feel free to whatsapp me from bed and ask me to bring you them

Any other things people can say to you/ do to help?

Welcome to Peardrop. Four admissions in nine weeks is a lot - and those days until you see a consultant must seem endless. As you are a veteran, I don't need to say my usual spiel about 'Have you got kesostix' and flat full sugar coke, ice lollies, the juice and fruit of tinned fruit, etc etc. As Melleebacca said to Thingymaboob Remember to get something for the dreaded constipation that usually accompanies Ondansetron (poor Hollyhop knows all about that! ).
DeadDoorPost You had us in a tizzy there! I am glad OH is at home today - do send him out for kesostix and you really should see a Dr asap. Also the kidney pain needs investigating. With all that vomiting, though, you must surely be fairly dehydrated - though I'm glad it hasn't got to the headache and not able to pass urine stage.
Thingymaboob I never knew that GP's could do that if you aren't their patient. That's marvellous! Poor you, though. You must have been ill to impress them like that. As Melleebacca says, watch out for the dreaded constipation. Might it be worth phoning up 024 7638 2020 Pregnancy Sickness Support and asking for advice about getting more Ondansetron if your own surgery continue to refuse it?
If it's any comfort, the traditional term for the 'No Longer Maid' for the bride is 'Matron of Honour' and you are in a way, a member of the Guard of Honour of Hyperemesis Sufferers who are somehow surviving.
Oklahoma Oh dear, as others say. It is very hard, and you are brave to go for it a second time.
pippanippa Silly me, I've been getting your name wrong. Did you see my flat coke ice cubes recommendation? Those signs include scanty dark urine, dry skin and mouth, unelastic skin, and later, headache and blurry vision and finally, a confused, light headed feeling, the last being a sign that things have become serious. Do phone out of hours for advice or maybe go to A and E or the Early Pregnancy Unit if there is one. Are you able to retain any liquids?
Hollyhop, fourcorneredcircle and Melleebacca What you say is so true. As Oklahoma says, 'it's not fair'. It's just not good enough!
Watch me cross post.

FlapAttack Cross posted. A good idea! On wishing to do more, I do wish I could give you all a good day every other day, for instance, even if I couldn't wish this all away...
NonStopDisco Was it you who apologised for having a good day? You shouldn't; you certainly deserve it, and it encourages others....

Holly and oklahoma so sorry, it's so frustrating...early in pregnancy people say 'it should get better at 14 weeks' then they say 'maybe 20' and then they just say 'oh well, you're nearly there now'. It is miserable, especially by the time you're heavily pregnant, being sick with a bump is just really uncomfortable. I found going to antenatal classes last time particularly difficult as we were asked to discuss pregnancy ailments which were troubling us, all the other women were glowing and talking about how great they felt. You are totally right, in any other circumstances, being this ill for 40 weeks would certainly not be taken lightly. Someone suggested ginger ale to me yesterday - I didn't have words so just smiled and nodded.

Had a better morning here and feel maybe a turning point from the weekend, a little food has stayed down, as well as some water. Still lightheaded, with a headache, but lying in bed with a fan pointed at me. I'm having to keep reminding myself little sips and often, I am so thirsty I really want to just down a glass of water, but that never ends well and is always counterproductive! Unfortunately no 111 here to call for reassurance and ringing the hospital is always disastrous (language barrier as my French is appalling especially when it comes to medical matters), but husband on the hunt for ketostix to avoid any doubt.