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AIBU to be worried about my baby despite good news

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 12:33

Hi, I had a MMC and ERPC in January, baby was estimated to have died at 5 + 6. Currently 5 + 4 with a new pregnancy, which is great, but unfortunately I have been told that my HCG and progesterone levels are low considering my LMP date. Had a scare yesterday with some brown bleeding (not much but still!). My hormone levels were tested today and the good news is that hcg has trebled since Thursday and progesterone has doubled. However they are still considered low and the doctor has put me on progesterone tablets for 3 weeks. Just wondering if anyone has had a similar experience with low HCG and progesterone levels at this stage? Obviously I am really anxious given what happened last time and what's more, I am still bleeding a little (still brown). Could I still be miscarrying even though the HCG is increasing?

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 12:42

I also don't know how much blood I should worry about. I would say it has been about a teaspoon each day. Is that a lot? So worried and confused Sad

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 12:54

Bumping for help - very anxious

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Soulcakequack · 29/04/2017 13:02

I wish I could give you the answers you need. But I don't think anyone can right now only time will tell.

However rising values is a good sign, right now things are looking better not worse. If you can try to hold on that. I have been in similar positions it is horribly hard x

RiversrunWoodville · 29/04/2017 13:03

Oh Polly Flowers pregnancy after miscarriage is a really scary experience. FWIW with my "rainbow" (now dd2) I had low levels and spotting then more severe bleeding which happened at 7, then 8 then at 9 weeks I had severe cramping and bleeding and was sure we had lost her but I was put on aspirin and monitored closely (other high risk factors) and she was born on her due date ((( un MNy)))

peachgreen · 29/04/2017 13:04

Bleeding throughout pregnancy is very normal, especially during the early stages. It could be cervical irritation (often happens after sex), old implantation bleeding or breakthrough bleeding. Lots of perfectly safe and unworrisome reasons. The level of HCG is much less important than the rate at which it's increasing - all sounds good to me. Smile

You might find more support over on this thread: Staying posifrickentive- Thread 16 for ladies pg after mc
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/2913371-Staying-posifrickentive-Thread-16-for-ladies-pg-after-mc

Wando1986 · 29/04/2017 13:05

Low doesn't mean anything. It's the doubling that matters. Mine was 11 and then 24 and so on. I'm 37 weeks now :)

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:05

Thank you both for your kind replies and Rivers that is an incredibly encouraging story! If it's not TMI can I ask what you mean by 'more severe bleeding'? Was it more than a teaspoonful a day?

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:07

Two more replies while I was typing! Thank you. If it helps to know the numbers, my HCG was 40 on Thursday but was 120 today. Progesterone was 3.3 but is now 7.4

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RedHelenB · 29/04/2017 13:07

Have you any other children? For me what you described did lead to a miscarriage but then in my other 3 babies I had no bleeding at all and morning sickness which again I didn't have with the miscarriage. My friends on the other hand experienced bleeding with all their babies.

daisygirlmac · 29/04/2017 13:09

Polly I had a MC then got pregnant again and bled quite heavily on and off for the next 6 weeks - I'm typing this as DS snoozes on me Smile I really hope everything works out for you Flowers

Soulcakequack · 29/04/2017 13:10

Polly I have bleed in all of pregnancies, during my one successful pregnancy I had the heaviest and most prolonged bleeding. No reason was ever found but it had no impact at all on my son.

It's really very common to bleed in pregnancy and doesn't always mean bad things

daisygirlmac · 29/04/2017 13:11

Forgot to add, you may be able to have an early scan - I had scans at 6, 8 and 10 weeks because of the bleeding but the early pregnancy unit at the hospital were happy to do them.

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:11

We haven't got any children, no Sad

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aaaaargghhhhelpme · 29/04/2017 13:12

Oh op sending you Flowers
I had an mmc and erpc. When I got pregnant I spent the entire time not relaxing. I had early spotting with brownish blood but was told that's quite normal.
I hate that it's all just a waiting game at this stage. It's so tough after an mmc. I wish I could give you definite answers as I know that's all I wanted.
But if it helps I'm currently watching DC snoring next to me...so sending you lots of positive thoughts X

Soulcakequack · 29/04/2017 13:12

Also re numbers, the actual numbers are less important than the fact they are doubling 48hrs. Doubling is very good news indeed

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:15

Thank you daisy, I am going back to docs on Tuesday for another blood test to check levels again, then she has offered me a scan for 8th May, when I would be 6 + 6, which is great.
On another note, the doc suggested I might have ovulated late and therefore conceived later than I thought. I am a bit confused though because I thought pregnancies were always dated from LMP date regardless of date of conception? Am I wrong?

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daisygirlmac · 29/04/2017 13:17

No they always date from LMP. They will update your estimated due date after your 12 week scan if the measurements look significantly different to the original EDD

Soulcakequack · 29/04/2017 13:19

Before a scan dating uses LMP which a best guess really. It's entirely possible that you ovulated later than day 14 and that would impact on the numbers at this early stage.

It's very common for due dates to move at scans and the official due date is taken from the 12 week scan

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:19

That's what I thought daisy but the doc seemed to be saying that if we conceived later that might be a reason for the low levels

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Welshrainbow · 29/04/2017 13:21

Pregnancies are dated from lmp but it assumes you ovulate on day 14ish of you don't ovulate till day 21 you will be a week less pregnant than you would think from lmp. It sounds to me like you ovulated late as your levels are more consistent with being a week or so behind where you are based on lmp. The important thing is that they are doubling which they have done. My DS was conceived after two losses and it's so hard to relax but try to if you can.

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:22

It seems like an endless stretch of time until 12 weeks soul! Can't allow myself to hope that I might still be pregnant by then...

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Annie592 · 29/04/2017 13:22

I think the trebling numbers are a really good sign, with my miscarriage my numbers were actually higher than the average when first tested (to a level that thought it might be twins, but it wasn't), but they only increased a tiny bit over a few days, nowhere near even doubling. Hope you're ok, having to 'wait and see' is so so hard xxx

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PollyCazaletWannabe · 29/04/2017 13:24

Thank you Annie, that's very reassuring and I'm sorry for your loss Flowers

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PeaFaceMcgee · 29/04/2017 13:26

The most accurate way of dating a pregnancy is if you know exactly which day you ovulated. Anything else (including scans) is guesswork. It's a myth that we all have 28 day cycles with ovulation on day 14. Good luck OP x

daisygirlmac · 29/04/2017 13:26

Polly I agree it does seem endless, I felt like I was literally crawling through the hours. I signed up for a weekly email which I liked as it felt like it was a small marker to look forward to each week and I liked reading about what the baby was doing week by week. It also helped me to have some plans, even though I felt like shit and was knackered, just knowing I was going out for tea or something at the weekend was nice. Take care of yourself x