Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Hi all, Just wanted to check in. Had a good day yesterday and went to work for two hours today (so, four hours with commute). Then came home and slept for three hours, feel wiped. Not sure how tomorrow will go - I often have a bad day if I over do it but at least I'm off all day tomorrow.

Four - well done! You're doing great. Rest up today, and do as little as possible.

Awful day here. Lost dinner last night, had guests over today and had to fake it for 3hrs, their car wasn't even out of the driveway and I was throwing up. Supposedly strawberries don't agree with me anymore. Had plain pasta for dinner tonight, which stuck so well I only could bring up bile. Mouth tastes disgusting even after cleaning teeth.

I'm over this and it's barely even begun.

Morning. Sorry everyone had bad nights. I had a big lunch so didn't fancy dinner. Worked up this morning feeling terrible. Really nauseous, headache, swollen! Couldn't get both my rings on. Also had to have a lie in and didn't manage commute. Back in uber. Got a massage booked for tonight which is hopefully going to get me through the day.

Yesterday (or day before) Lucinda said about soluable ondanesetron. I have no memory today so sorry but to whoever I had the exact same issue. I can't cope with soluable due to retching so I switched to metrochlopromide- this took longer to get into my system but is good and doesn't give the headaches. Hope that's helpful

Got up with DH for bile run and meds, then went back to bed and slept through until now. Wish I had a massage booked too south as I ache all over - looking forward to our new bed coming on the 16th. These last few months of being largely bed bound pushed me to buy the new bed I'd been thinking of for a while. No idea why I left it so long!

Feeling ok other wise, have headache. Probably time to start on the black currant squash!

Mellee Sorry about the strawberry induced vomit. I couldn't eat fruit or veg for ages. The last couple of weeks I got back in to raw crunchy veg but cooked still makes me a bit green. Getting better at fruit but still has a high nausea factor. Seems a common theme with HG to go off fruit and veg. Don't worry :)

Totally off fruit and veg. I like pineapple chunks occasionally but it stings my stomach acid ruined tongue of eat too much. I love salty nuts... pistachio and cashew the most.

Terrible back ache. Had to swap Chris at work but not good still.

Hope all ok xxx

Good afternoon all. Just an update and to check how you ladies are doing :-) I spoke to the GP yesterday who said that I should give it until next week and then come in if the blood hasn't stopped. He also left another prescription for me at reception for Cyclizine so DH will pick that up for me as I'm down to 2 tablets! He did say that even though it's not really working that well it was the only thing he can prescribe at this early stage, is that correct? I will read up on the info posted at the beginning of the thread later this afternoon. I feel like the nausea is getting worse. it's all I can think about and the list of things I can stomach to drink is reducing by the day. At least I'm keeping food down, I know and I remind myself constantly how badly some of you have it :-( Second day at work today. Commute was a nightmare; I have definitely decided to get signed off for a week or so next week as I just cannot face it. South I hope your day at work isn't too bad and that you enjoy your massage :-)

Thank you for your kind messages re sadness! Sadly I know it's depression as I've had mental health problems in the past.

I was the one with the ondansatron/ headache problem, but I'm on metaclopramide ATM and it only works okayish for me sadly. Just got to cross my fingers and hope because I'm 18 weeks soon that it'll ease up on its own!

I really feel for everyone trying to muddle through at work- thank goodness I don't have to worry about that!

I'm also nearly totally off veg and fruit, good to know I'm not the only one!

Pip. There are many combinations of drugs. So gp needs to research more or ring the hg hotline and they can give you names

South. Im the same rarely eat veg - can't stomach green veg at all. But do eat lots of fruit. Banana melon grapes

Feeling a bit sad today. My mum died 2.5yrs ago and really hit home she isn't here now and df mum dead as well so no grandma nanny etc for bubs :(

Blondes - I'm sorry to hear that. We had big scares with my mum and my dad in 2016, and it's just so tough when you think about what they will be missing out on. I hope it doesn't get you down too much.

I can't do fruit, veges or meat. Yesterday was toast, custard, and plain pasta. It's so depressing. Driving 2.5hrs today to visit my dad and tell him the news, not really looking forward to the drive.

Pip You are quite right that there are a variety of meds used as safe in first tri- cyclizne is probably the oldest, (it can be bought over the counter, even, ironically not by pregnant woman, though It's been used for about for decades at least). It's only the first line of attack in severe cases. I hope the links will help a lot. I'm glad gp reassured you about blood. Congratulations on commute. I hope you do get signed off - I don't know how people manage to work and then commute in the rush hour with this.
SouthLondon Sorry you feel so foul. Good advice about meds and I hope massage was really relaxing.
Melleebacca Oh dear about visitors and exhaustion. Odd that bile by-passed the pasta - just as well as pasta can be so vile reappearing (some disagree, I think).Strawberrries maybe not so bad but probably acid. A two and a half hour drive - you brave thing.

fourcorneredcircle Sorry to hear the bile run continues. Congratulations on work and commute.
PastieMaid I am sorry that it is depression. I hope they can help you with it.
Blondes Hugs. I do feel for you. I did really regret that as my OH's parents died before I met him, and my father died in middle age, my daughter had only one grandmother. I did miss my father particularly just after my daughter was born. Is there an aunt/older cousin/friend of yours who might be, not a real substitute, but something of a substitute? I did think my daughter benefited from our being friendly with an elderly couple next door when we lived in London.
I hope everyone is avoiding admission, anyway...

Hi Ladies

I'm just going to update and then catch up on what I've missed. Yesterday went well (apart from being at a funeral naturally). I managed to shower, wash and dry hair, tweeze eyebrows and even put on make up. The car journey was fine and I managed tinned fruit, homemade soup and rice pudding before and then fruit and pie and peas at the wake. I delighted myself with a dr oetker pizza for tea and I managed 2 apple and raspberry j20s (it's so nice to have something other than water). I even made it to knit and chat and managed a couple of rows for the first time in a month.

Today...not so good. Less oomph this morning and more nausea all day. Had to nip in to work to sort files and things out for those taking over my classes and just made it to the toilet when I got off the bus at home. Husband treated me to fish and chips which seems to have settled but I'm feeling a bit rubbish although relieved my heaviest classes have been given to someone else for the rest of the year, so a lot less work and stress to worry about.

Blondes I'm so sorry to hear about your mother . My father is alot older than most dads from my generation and I decided to have a baby earlier in life because I worry so about him not being around for long. Will there be a grandad figure for your baby? Sending you hugs.

Pip I'm sure I started metaclopramide and ondansatron in my first trimester, I would get a second opinion from a second GP. Some tend to be overly cautious.

Pip: I hope you get time off work. It is certainly helping me. I know I would be a lot worse if I was having to go in. I'm in my first trimester and I've been given more than cyclizine.

Pastie: I'm really sorry to hear that. I was very similar with my first. I hope you get more help than I did.

South: sorry you're struggling again. I was in a similar position with my first and didn't really know anyone. What is NCT?

Mellee and four, I hope you're feeling better now or at least have a better day tomorrow.

Sorry if I've missed anyone.

Hi, can I join this thread?

I'm due 5 August with my second baby. I feel like a bit of a fake HG moaner but my midwife called it HG today so I hope I count. I had my booking in appointment and I could have cried with joy at having a healthcare professional take me seriously. GPs at my surgery have been so patronising and refused to prescribe anything for a long time, then prescribed 10 days of cyclizine and refused to give me any more. I've lost 4 kg as of today and had ketones in my urine today as well.

Early Pregnancy Unit have given me ondansetron now, fingers crossed it'll work.

Morning ladies So I successfully managed the whole day at work, but I feel knocked out today already. Thanks for the advice regarding the medication, I thought that was the case. it really winds me up that we end up going to the GP and doing all the research ourselves because they either don't know, or care to find out I'm still waiting for my midwife appointment so I will also discuss with them as I definitely need to change. How's everyone doing so far? xx

I'm ok today. Prob hormones from yesterday. Tho we did have an amazing curry again. Soooooo enjoyed it at 8pm. I seem to like curry at the moment.

Not so much at 2am when reappears ....... :(

Mel. Hope drive goes well and your dad excited about baby

Haich. Sounds fab eating !! Tho sorry about funeral.

Lucinda there is a lady I'm close to. Sounds weird but my dead husbands aunt. She is lovely and I see her fairly regularly and she adores df which I know sounds weird but she was happy when I met him after all I had been through (dh committed suicide almost 6yrs ago)

South and four. Hope you are feeling better and less bile sick nausea

It does go away /lessen eventually 💐💐

Pastie. Yes my dad is about and though excited about bubs - it also brings home to him that my mum /grandma isn't here - was their dream to be gp and they paid for the 2nd ivf after first failed - tho that's when mum died (2014 wasn't a good year) tho bubs will be his only gc - he is old school and wary think till she arrives - ESP as havnt had the easiest preg and I'm geriatric 🙄🙄😉

Cookie welcome. Lovely mw takes hg seriously and horrible that some gp's don't 😢 - tho why so little cyczline. Took a good 7/10days to get in my system. I got given a month supply - then on repeat and gp gave me extra for over xmas bless him

Pip shame more gp aren't clued up about stuff. Tho guess they have to try and learn a bit about everything

Some I've met (as a mn) aren't clued up at all about colic and reflux and I've told my client to see a paed

Hi Cookie,

Sorry you have to join this thread but welcome. I'm glad your mw is looking after you and making sure you get the care you need. I would take any info you can get to your gp so they have to take you seriously. I seem to be one of the lucky ones with my gp but the staff on the early pregnancy ward looked after me really well when I was admitted over Christmas. Ondansetron is certainly helping me keep food down. Are you having to work too? Are you coping? I'm due around the same time as you and I'm currently off on a sick note.

Pip: so far today I did not want to get up because I was so cozy and snoozy in bed but I have and now I feel really sick . Just had some peaches in juice hoping some food and liquid might help. Just sat/reclined while it settles. I haven't got long though as we'll be setting off soon for a child's party (1.5hrs drive). Eek! I hope you get to rest today.

Blondes: if it's any consolation, I am who I am today because of my 'surrogate' family. My mum is an only child and dad's side I don't know, so godparents and other adults I adopted as family early on and they've been great role models and whatnot. I don't feel I lacked because I had them. One walked me down the aisle when I got married and another was my matron of honour. I'm glad you have this aunt for support and everything as well as your dad.

Urgh, wish I could just go back to bed. I'm going to have 5-10 more mins settling and then I have to finish getting ready.

Wishing everyone a good day!

Thanks everyone.

Haich I work full time but had 4 days off sick the week before Christmas, and suffered through the Friday out of guilt for being off. I've had the whole week off between Christmas and new year as holiday, then worked three days this week but Friday morning I was too sick to work again. I think stress and exhaustion builds and makes the sickness worse over time.

We're just barely coping but only because my dh is doing his absolute best and my PIL are able to help and take ds overnight if needed.

south how's the back today post massage? Did it feel good? Tempted myself...

blondes I think it's very understandable to miss your mother when you are pregnant - and I'm sure I've read/watched about it in lots of places too. I, like others, hope that you find someone who fills that role, if only for bubs, I know no one can replace your mother for you.

Haitch I'm very jealous that someone's taken on your heaviest classes, one less thing to stress about when you do get back ... I thought I was lucky but that's a full step up. Sounds like you had a good day (apart from funeral) this week followed by a less good one. I get that too, normally my own fault as I've over done it. But it's so hard because as soon as you feel slightly normal you want to do stuff!

Welcome cookie, pull up a bucket :) your MW sounds like she's a good 'un!

Hello pip and pastie too

Having a lazy day here today (because spending most of yesterday asleep wasn't enough ). Terrible day for hungry/eat/feel sick/hungry/eat too much/gob full of vomit cycle but, so much better than the early days. I'm reading a book! And actual book! I remember when reading a text message at the wrong point was enough to make me throw up. Celebrating this new success!

I'm just dashing on to welcome SociallyAcceptableCookie. Looks as if you have great advice already - can your midwife prescribe? I wasn't clear if she has put you on meds? Have to got kesostix if there are ketones in your urine to test for early stages of dehydration? You've lost a lot of weight for sure. How are liquids staying down? Are sips of flat coke, ice lollies, tinned fruit and its juice any good? Or elderflower water or chocolate milkshake? (someone cleverly suggested soya). I'm glad you have some support
and Blondes Your OH killed himself six years ago? That must have been unbelievably traumatic.
Back soon.

Lucinda thanks. Mw is not a prescriber but she told me she could just give me cyclizine then and there. I suspect she meant get the doctor in the office to prescribe it, as she did with my vitamin d supplements. She sent me up to EPU to get ondansetron prescribed. After almost four hours in a very tense waiting room, not eating or drinking, EPU tried to send me away with a 7 day cyclizine prescription. I'm usually a pushover but I didn't leave until they gave me ondansetron, so yes I do have that now. I'm so fed up that I didn't even care I was crying at the reception desk about that stupid cyclizine prescription they tried to give me. It got me seen again, anyway.

I can usually manage sips of sparkling water or cranberry juice but when the nausea gets bad it's just too hard. I actually do have ketostix from a failed low carb diet attempt but I haven't been using them because I genuinely thought the cranberry juice was at least giving me enough carbs to avoid ketosis. GPs have always told me I'm hydrated (by looking at me and taking a BP ) so I was surprised to have ketones yesterday.

Dh has been in sole charge of cooking for at least a month now and it's been almost all frozen stuff so he's going to Iceland today. I'm going to ask him to get me ice lollies.

Hi all, I'm headed into town to meet a friend. We are going to chat, dinner and show. As I have no walking stamina she is happy for us to sit in a cafe sipping until we go for dinner. At the moment I feel surprisingly ok. Usual lack of energy etc but nausea feels less and in waves. I went back to bed about 11-1 then had squash and crisps. Now I'm not dehydrated I need a wee all the time. I feel like there should be pregnancy toilets everywhere!!!

Massage last night was amazing. I have to admit some bits actually hurt but she worked out knots in my gluts (is that just a posh word for bum?), thighs, neck and back. It was an app called urban massage and with code PMPUR10 I got £10 off so I booked the hour and half and IT WAS AMAZING.
Before sickness I was going to PT and weekly yoga so now I've stopped everything and even find walking hard my body is achy and painful. Going to enquire about antenatal swimming and yoga but honestly so tired I can't imagine doing it. Also on a sick day wouldn't want to loose my money .... plus lost half my wages in December being off sick. Money is so annoying as I feel guilty I should be saving for the baby.

NcT - don't know what it stands for but it's a private charity offering baby classes, birth classes and breast feeding classes. Only it's main benefit is it links you up with other first time mums in the area. They have a website and send email updates as you progress pregnancy. I just joined classes rather than membership.

Haich - love you did eyebrows!! Mine are terrible! It's great to take advantage of good days.
Maybe there is an app for someone to come and do my waxing?!? My life could be solved by apps and anti sickness tablets lol

Welcome cookie - hope we can be of support to you. My husband also doing all the cooking so eating easy cook things but in first tri all I wanted was chips and toast. Sometimes chicken nuggets but not much!

Random but I'm waiting for wifi to load as on underground (sickbag in pocket, hair and on wrist, mints and water in bag) ... does anyone else get a numb bum when sat too long? It's weird!!! Then turns tingly! Everything feels too hard to sit on these days!

Xxx

South - That massage sounds like bliss (currently lying on sofa with shoulders in agony).

Cookie - welcome! Hopefully the ondansetron helps you soon. I find it takes a few days to really become effective, and it only makes it really hard to vomit.

Blondes - sorry to hear about DH. Sounds like you really deserve a beautiful, good sleeping bubba after what you've been through.

Four - congrats on the actual book! It's lovely when you start noticing you're getting better than getting worse.

Pip - exhaustion tends to lead to bad days. Hopefully work hasn't worn you out too much. And hopefully you get some stronger meds.

I survived the 2 and a half hour drive, hubby was driving fortunately. I had a frozen coke which really helped with the nausea, but then I almost had to pee in the cup as thought I would explode. Stepmum guessed as soon as she saw me (haven't weighed myself, but even I can tell the weight is falling off). Burst into happy tears when I confirmed it and she's volunteered to come and stay with me in a couple of weeks. My dad is already picking out weird and wonderful baby names, so he's excited and happy without saying so directly. Youngest brother (13), is less thrilled at ANOTHER baby stealing his thunder. 😂

SociallyAcceptableCookie That sounds awful about crying in reception. I am glad you got Ondansetron. I've added you to the due dates list. You are so right about exhaustion and stress making things far worse. As Blondes says, it does get a lot better, even for the unlucky ones for whom it never goes away; for many, it goes away at some point between 14-20 weeks save for residual heartburn...
Blondes I still can't get over that 'geriatric' ! . It was sweet of your parents to pay for your second lot of iv. Does one only get one lot on the NHS, or what? I think you said and I stupidly forgot, sorry.
Pip Congratulations on staggering into work. How did the midwife appointment go?
Melleebacca Good that long car journey went OK. That was sweet of your stepmother. Lol about younger brother!
HaichM Are you a teacher/lecturer, then? Quite a high proportion of people on here are teachers/lecturers, intriguingly. One of the perks of the job? Looks like you managed to eat a lot. Rice pudding, y ou brave thing!
SouthLondon That massage sounds lovely. A show sounds fun.
Apologies if I've overlooked anyone impolitely or cross posted...
Due Dates
MrsM2016 5 February
Light 3 March
Blondes 30 March
NerrSnerr 18 April
Castlefeck 19 April
moonoverthewater 10 May
user1477 14 May
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley 20 May
Robber Bride 29 May
LHReturns 1 June
PeaceLove 3 June
Boobs 6 June
South London 6 June
fourcorneredcircle 7 June
Pastiemaid 12 June
squeezypeasy 13 June
Babyand 23 June
Captain Warbeck 24 June
SociallyAcceptableCookie 5 August
JimmyJay Early August
HaichM Early August
Mellebacca Mid to late August
Pip1982 20 August.