Spotting - 5+4 weeks (TMI alert!)

[celizabe]

I'm around 5 +4 weeks pregnant and last night started to get some brown spotting. It's kind of similar to EWCM but brown. I did get the same around the time I would have gotten my period (assumed it was implantation after the BFP) but now this a couple of weeks later.

I've had two miscarriages back to back so I'm really nervous this is the start of another one. I have a call into the GP to see if I can get a referral to the EPU.

Have any of you had the same thing? & did you manage to get a referral to the EPU?

I'm terrified that they'll fob me off and tell me to wait & see....

Hi Womble, just back. Gestational sac is there and a yolk sac measuring 3.5mm but no embryo visible yet (ended up having a endovaginal scan). I'm booked in for another scan next Wednesday to check if there's a heartbeat. The sonographer said everything is where it needs to be (was afraid it was ectopic) it's just probably too early to tell so need to have another one.

Here's to the next 10 days!

Hi celizabe
It sounds like we've had identical scans! I didn't have a fetal pole, just a flicker of something in there. Are you 6 weeks now? I've been googling, I need to stop myself and put it out of my mind. Roll on next week.

I know Womble, think we might be in an identical boat!

I thought I was six weeks today, but I've just done a due date calculator with a cycle length predictor and it looks like I'm possibly 5+4 / 5+5 so it's definitely too early to see anything.

I've just done some googling too and it looks like the yolk sac would be the right size for this but it definitely looked completely empty, I couldn't see a thing anyway!

I remember in my last pregnancy I had a scan at 5 weeks which was a sac, and another at 7 where there was a CRL measurement and heartbeat, I dug out the pics this afternoon. I also found a scan pic from 2013 which was 6 weeks +3 with a measurement and HB but that was a Mmc at 11 weeks. Instead of obsessing about spotting I have a new focus! I seriously need to get a grip, remain neutral and distract myself with something else until next week.

Thanks for this Womble, hopefully there'll be strong heartbeats and a distinct lack of MMCs for us both next week.

Think I'm going to have to take up a new hobby (other than peeing on sticks and Googling symptoms) for the next 10 days to keep busy!!

So happy for both of you! Such great news... that's exactly what happened to me this time around... also once you have seen a heartbeat the risk of MC massively drops... no more googling though!!

Hi jpeg, thanks :-) I am trying to remain neutral, I think realistically at 6 weeks a pole/ heartbeat should be seen, and that fact that there isn't coupled with some brown spotting makes me err towards this being non-viable. I am 43 so the odds are not in my favour. Although I do love reading Google stories of poles and heartbeats being seen a week later.

Did you have a similar scan jpeg?

How are you celizabe?

Hi Womble, I'm hanging in there. Haven't had any more spotting since Sunday so I'm still hopeful. How are you feeling?

Have you looked at a due date calculator where you can add in your cycle length? The more I thought about it, the more likely it is that I'm further behind then I thought at first. My cycle is 30-31 days and my luteal phase is 12 days (versus average 28 and 14) which would make a difference to me of 3-4 days on where I stand. The Sister in the EPU mentioned it which is what got me thinking.

Is there a chance your dates could be slightly out?

Thanks Jpeg - am desperately hoping for a heartbeat but I'll have to wait until next Wednesday to find out!

Something like this, Womble

www.youngmommies.com/info/duedate.html

Thanks celizabe. My previous 3 cycles have 26, 28, 28

Hi Womble, sorry I've been MIA for a few days - work is absolutely manic at the moment.

How are you doing?

Hi Celizabe
How are you? I hope you are doing OK and not working too hard.
I have started spotting again, darker this time and I'm crampy. Thankfully epu are seeing me later, but my feeling is its over for me. I think that the progesterone suppositories may just be delaying the inevitable and I need to know so I can stop the blood thinners too.

Oh Womble, I'm sorry you're going through this. I hope it isn't bad news at the EPU ... please let me know how you're doing when you can x

Hi celizabe

There was a foetal pole and heartbeat, however its slow, which is an indicator of demise. I suggested withdrawing the support meds, but the nurse said 'what if, today is the start of the heartbeat and it increases?' So we agreed to continue until Tuesday in the hope that the heart is beating normally. I am not hopeful. The husband is very hopeful, bless him.

Fingers crossed Womble, I totally understand protecting your emotions by not being too hopeful but I sincerely hope Tuesday gives you a different picture.

I've just started spotting brown again too, with cramps. Don't know whether to ring EPU again or just wait it out until Wednesday morning and my next scan.

What I wouldn't give to have an uncomplicated pregnancy!!!

Sorry you are spotting again Celizabe, call epu, its a long time to wait until next weds, and it may give you an indication of what direction things are going. Call them for some peace of mind x

Thanks Womble, I think I will. I'll give it another hour to see if it decreases and then see. Thinking of you x

Thanks Celizabe x

Hi all,

I hope everything is going well for you all.

I had pink spotting today (I'm 6+0), the tiniest amount but rang midwife who said to contact EPU and now have a scan on Sunday. I don't think I have cramping though of course now I'm obsessing over every little thing. In some ways I wish I hadn't rang! But best to get checked I guess.

How are you Celizabe? Has it settled?

Hi Chuffcloud, sorry you are spotting, I hope you're scan is positive on Sunday.

I've been googling, a slow heartbeat is indicative of chromosomal abnormalities

Isn't this whole thing just an ordeal!?!

Sorry to hear you're spotting Chuff, I hope you get good news at the EPU on Sunday.

Thanks Womble, I'm still feeling quite crampy and it feels a little like it's pulling downwards which is making me feel like this is another MC. Alternatively, when I'm trying to be positive it could just be wind!! Spotting is lessening though.

I really hope you're wrong about a foetal abnormality, hopefully you're just too early getting your scan and you'll get some positive results on Tuesday.

Morning

How are you doing Celizabe? I hope everything has settled.

Chuffcloud, I hope your scan is positive today.

I am feeling down and frustrated. I've been keeping busy but I feel so unsettled. We've seen a few friends over the weekend and it has been ironic that have several of them have joked about how it won't be long before we have another baby. My friend last night noticed I wasn't drinking then started on a 'are you pregnant?' rampage. She wouldn't stop, so I poured myself one and drank it, but she continued and told us it was probably for the best that we don't have anymore children as we are are getting on, and obviously we are at risk of chromosomal problems blah blah blah. I wanted to cry. I had a hissy fit after they'd left.
My instinct is that this pregnancy isn't right, its not developing as it should, the heartbeat is slow and I'm spotting. I can accept it, but I need to move forward. I am concerned that if there is still a slow heartbeat on Tuesday I will have to wait another 2 weeks.

Apologies for being so negative.

I hope you're both OK xx

Hey ladies sorry to barge in on your posts but reading your posts I just thought maybe one of you might be able to calm my mind or help in anyway! I missed my period and did a test, rang the doctors and got an appointment with my midwife for next Tuesday (22nd at 2) but my boyfriend wanted to know how far I was so I paid for a private scan. I thought i was further gone but it turns out from the scan I was about 4 weeks as I only had a 4mm-4mm gestational sac. The sonographer then scared the life out of me by saying it could be a failed pregnancy and it may not grow anymore so obviously at 22 I'm absolutely pooping myself as I've only had the missed period and I only feel sick around half 8 each morning I haven't been sick and obviously I've had posative tests. I'm just so scared! She said if you thought you were further gone and you only have a sac that means it's already stopped growing so I'm so worried. And I've got to wait until I talk to my midwife to know what is going on with it being so early! She's told me to take pregnancy tests each week but this morning I messed it up it was only a faint posative test but I didn't do it right as it was a dip one and not a mid urination one. Has anyone experienced anything like this? Thank you if you can reply! X

Hi KTM

Sorry you are having a stressful time. How many weeks do you think you are, you may have conceived later than you thought, as sperm can live in the reproductive tract for up to 7 days ? At 4 weeks, there will be nothing to see really but a tiny gestational sac. So a scan that confirms you are 4 weeks with a gest sac is good news:-) If you can wait, and have another scan at 6-7 weeks, there should be a foetal pole and heartbeat. Take care, I hope everything works out for you