Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Oh glad to hear you've escaped hospital. It's often the best place for someone to get rehydrated but not really a nice place, is it [hm]

choc strawberries are really quite good little food parcels. I love a few strawberries in greek yoghurt!

Alice glad you're feeling a little better. Hope that work goes ok- I feel your pain, I also work in an open plan office. Luckily I'm near(ish) to the doors so always made it to the toilets in time.

Hi all, apologies for absence yesterday spent the day getting inspired to teach again despite knowing that may not be possible for a year! Anyway feel exhausted and awake at 5am what a good combination...

alice great news that you are starting to feel a bit more human- no one here will begrudge you that! Keep taking it slow so you don't do to much and make yourself worse voice of experience

rae so pleased you didn't push it too much and hope Friday resting did you the world of good! Beans on toast sounds epic and pleased to hear it stayed down, although glad dh is taking over cooking duties for you!

chocoholic strawberries sound like far to healthy a craving for hg pregnancy 😉 I'm finding fruit gradually easier to eat too- bought a mixed berries pot in m&s the other day and whilst ds devoured most important did enjoy the leftovers!

mrsmonkey pleased to hear you are having a good holiday. Time to relax still and hopefully enjoy some sunshine!

Hope you didn't overdo it yesterday ickle! it's so annoying when you're tired and awake early. I'm really glad I had yesterday to rest, I feel ok so far this morning!

Had a bit of an upsetting incident last night - one of my friends sent me quite a passive aggressive message asking how I was feeling, then one implying that I can't want my baby very much because she'd put up with HG for a baby (apparently HG is a 'bit unpleasant'), and then a final one saying she's really jealous of me.

For the record, she's not been trying to get pregnant. They want to start trying at Christmas. I just kept saying I was sorry. Made the mistake of showing DH the messages, and he is absoloutely fuming about how dismissive she was of the HG (she works in a field connected to healthcare so knows exactly what it is). I'm just really tearful about it all. I'm sad that I've hurt her but a do feel like she's kicked me when I'm down too

oh good grief Rae I get that she might be feeling sad but she's having a very bad moment isn't she? That is really unpleasant of her.

She might be one to avoid for a time. You have no need to apologise for being pregnant! And her comments about HG are just awful.

ickle you actually managed to teach yesterday? that can't have been easy! Do take it as easy as you can this weekend

Wishing everyone a quiet weekend

Morning everyone. Hope you're all planning a restful weekend in which the sickness stays at bay.

ickle well done on teaching, hope you aren't suffering too much as a result as it sounds like the HG hasn't been too good for you the last week.

rae pleased you took it easy at work and that as a result you're not feeling too bad. Well done on the beans on toast! What a shame that your friend has put a dampener on things. Has she seen you since you've been pregnant? I think it's only really when people see you when you're really rough that they can appreciate how ill you are. Try to not let it upset you, which is very difficult when you're a hormonal pregnant woman (I cried at The Good Wife last night, and One Born).

alice so pleased to hear you're feeling a little brighter. Hopefully it's an indication that it won't last too much longer, although you should enjoy it now just in case it does make a nasty return.

mrsmonkey hope you enjoyed your holiday. I'm absolutely shattered from ours - a holiday isn't really a holiday with HG and a toddler!

We got back a day early from holiday as DS was full of cold and has since passed it onto me so consequently I'm snotty, headachey, and feeling really sick and tired. DS also woke up yesterday with a water infection and was screaming in pain so we've had a couple of really early mornings and disturbed sleep which isn't helping the nausea either. Luckily my parents are coming to take him out for a couple of hours today to give us a break.

Hope everyone else, including all the new mummies, are doing ok. Sorry for anyone rudely missed.

Rae That was very upsetting. I assume the last message was intended as a sort of explanation/apology. Some women become anxious when they decide to start to ttc, that they might be infertile. A lot of people don't want to admit to their greatest fears or are no good at self analysis, and that might account for the complete lack of empathy. I find it hard to believe, however much she may be supposed to be aware of Hyperemesis, that she can really appreciate the torment. Cyber hugs. You don't need such things.
SleepymrsE Oh dear, poor you and poor LO.
icklekid You know, I really am going to have to let your mother know about this overdoing it. She may soon report a hen knocking at her door.
Alicekeach I'm really delighted that you've escaped hospital and even feel a little better, but I hope you've invested in some kesostix just in case things take a turn for the worse. Yes everyone will know what I am about to say. Don't rush back to work. It is probably a good idea to extend the sick note. Overdoing it can make the Hyperemesis flare up really badly.

SeaEagleFeather Flaps a wings madly by way of waving...
I suppose spandau must have had her baby by now. I hope all is well.
Also wish a peaceful weekend on everyone...

Thanks all for the sympathy. SeaEagle I think I will avoid her for a bit, I'm obviously feeling quite vulnerable at the moment anyway and I think seeing her would make me anxious. Not sure that seeing her in a few months with a very obvious bump will help either thought!

Sleepy she hasn't seen me since I've been pregnant. I've only seen DH, my parents, DB, and best friend (plus work people this week). We live a couple of hours drive away from her so only see her every couple of months anyway. We do text and call weekly though. Sorry to hear about your cold and that your holiday was cut short- it's the last thing you need! How is your DS with his water infection now?

Lucinda I have no idea what the last message was about really but I think you're right, it probably was an explanation. I know what you mean- I worried before TTC and felt a little pang when friends announced pregnancies but was genuinely happy for them too and never showed my little twinges of sadness with them. I don't really know what to do so I think I'll just back right off and let her come to me if/when she wants to.

I called my best friend about other things earlier but also told her about the text drama. She said I'm always too nice and need to unleash my angry pregnant lady hormones

Morning ladies. Rae how upsetting for you. Some people just have no understanding of what it is like! I've had lots of comments from friends (who have children) that they 'just had to get on with it' etc etc. Unless they have suffered from HG then they really don't get how rubbish it makes you feel. Just try and ignore her for now, I'm sure she will soon realise how rude she is being.

Alice glad you are feeling a lot better and your eyesight is returning to normal.

Thanks SeaEagle the strawberries are going down a treat. Don't worry Ickle strawberries are the only healthy thing that seem to be working at the moment. I hope you are feeling ok and managed ok at work? Did you teach a full day? I really am unsure when I'm going to be able to do that. Feel quite worried about it but am not being overly optimistic considering I was off for 10 weeks with my first.

sleepy hope you're feeling a bit better and are managing to relax child free.

Today ladies I'm feeling a bit stressed. This isn't hg related so hope it's ok to discuss here but looking for some advice. I have my first mw appt next week and concerned she is going to be angry about my weight. With my first I got pregnant just after we returned from honeymoon and had put on a stone!! Eeek! Anyway this gave me a BMI of 28 which is overweight. The mw wasn't too concerned but she did say to be careful what I ate during pregnancy and that they don't usually get worried unless BMI is 30 at booking. Anyway, I suffered with HG for about 20 weeks and lost a little weight. When I got to 20weeks I started to feel better and my appetite well and truly returned. I shamefully put on 4stone!! Anyway since ds has been born I've lost about 2.5st. I'm obviously now pregnant again but because I haven't lost all of the baby weight my BMI is now 31. I'm so annoyed at myself for not trying to lose a bit more and now really worried at what the mw is going to say/do. I'm about a size 12-14 and don't see myself as being obese but that's what the BMI states. Gosh this is such a ramble, really sorry...any advice/experience appreciated.

I may aswell continue my rant for today. Apologies this post is an essay. So my next dilemma is that lots of friends and colleagues are starting to speculate that I'm pregnant. Because I was off ill with my first they are of course bound to start guessing however, I just wish they would keep their guessing to themselves. This week a girl from work messaged me saying 'I'm not going no to ask what's wrong as I think I already know' and another saying 'I hear you're off work....it has got me guessing if you've got some news to share' followed by lots of baby emoji icon things. Urgh!! I knew this would happen but most of our family don't even know yet and just don't know how to reply or what to say. Ive just said that I'm really unwell and left it at that. Of course they are going to know but I'm quite upset that they are asking before I want to officially announce it if that makes sense. What have you all done? Do you just say that you are?? It's unfortunate that I have HG again and that I will have to announce early but I was hoping to get another few weeks.

Chocoholic thank you.

It sounds like your BMI was going in the right direction before you got pregnant. Don't beat yourself up. I don't think your midwife will be angry at all, just refer you for extra support if appropriate. One of my friends had a BMI of 31, she was upset as this meant she had to be consultant-led and was really hoping for a water birth in a midwife led unit. As it turns out she was induced anyway so wouldn't have been able to do that anyway. Maybe see how your appointment goes and take it from there? Sorry I'm not more help, I'm sure someone will be along soon with more helpful advice.

It's a shame about your colleagues. I just said "I've been sick and am having some time to recover" when asked- sounds like this is pretty much what you've done already. It sounds like everyone will have guessed because obviously it happened before, but it is very rude of them to message you and ask!!

rae glad for you that the return to work went ok and that you are easing in slowly! Sorry about the texts from your friend though. She may know about HG professionally but I don't know how many people really get it unless they've had it themselves or watched someone very close to the go through it.

alice I am glad things are going better! Was worried about you from earlier posts! Keep resting and listening to your appetite and hopefully things will stay that way.

sleepy oh no, a bad cold and HG together is horrific. Last time HG with bad sinusitis really wiped me out! I've been dreading getting something this time... Hope it is short lived!

chocaholic when is your book in appointment? Your BMI is only just over the limit for consultant led. With HG again it may yet go below 30 (not to wish HG induced on you!). If it doesn't try not to worry. My sister was consultant led after a difficult first birth. I was her birth partner second time and we didn't see a consultant on Earth! Her second birth was midwife assisted and intervention free (unlike her first which was officially midwife led!). So I'm not sure the category necessarily ends up making a practical difference.

When I had my booking appointment I had lost 8kg but I asked the midwife to write my true pre-preg weight down. Last wife I got in trouble with the midwife for gaining too much weight because they recorded my prepared weight when it was down 10kg from HG!

On telling colleagues I told the ones I am friends with early at about 6 or 7 weeks as I didn't think I'd be able to hide it. A few weeks later when I'd found effective mess I realised I probably could have hidden it. I think you should only tell people if you are comfortable with it, otherwise let them guess!

Doing OK here since Wednesday, not too much vomiting. Planning to take my daughter out of the afternoon shortly so hope that is not too energy draining!

Wow autocorrect seems to do some really weird things on my husbands iPad. Last wife = last time, mess = meds, Prepared = pre-preg, a consultant on Earth = wow, not sure what I was trying to say there but we didn't see one at all!

Thanks Rocket. Hope you have a lovely afternoon- the weather is gorgeous here, hope it's the same for you

Chocoholic I agree with Rae , those colleagues are rude to demand to be told, they should wait to be told even if they do guess.
Rocket Great advice.
Rae True; you do sound too nice...

Don't worry ladies who think I have done a whole day teaching, I was at an English conference! Sat in a hotel listening to people talk about teaching is much less hard work! I was meant to be doing first day teaching this week but have given up that idea already 😥

Well dh got up at 2am to go to loo and woke me up, not impressed doesn't even cover it! Ds has been a nightmare with food /sleep today so gave up and put him to bed early. Hoping he doesn't wake too early!

rocket sounds like a your starting to get back some energy which is great! Long may lack of vomiting last!

chocoholic I've always been grateful colleagues during both pregnancies who've obviously known about it have never said anything until I've announced. I would just keep saying your unwell or just get signed off until you are ready! I told management and close friends but not others at work until after scan. I wouldn't necessarily tell them if something went wrong so wouldn't want to feel forced too.

rae in all likelihood your friend doesn't really understand how debilitating hg is. When trying (or wanting to try for a baby- she says Christmas but wonder if she'd like to start earlier) that is all can focus on, the thought of a difficult pregnancy is irrelevant because the goal is just to become pregnant. The reality of hg pregnancy is unbearable and not something I would wish on anyone. People sat it sounds tough when you explain you've been in hospital/still are sick several times a day/still can't eat a meal but you can tell they don't get it! A bit of distance and surrounding yourself with those who do support you is all I can suggest

sleepy hope you got that rest and used it to sleep! Sorry to hear about ds water infection can be so painful and just not what you need right now!

Should probably attempt to get some more sleep...

ickle I hope your DS slept late! Think you're right about surrounding myself with supportive people, most of my friends are being wonderful.

I just had a 'funny turn' in John Lewis. We went to look at prams. Suddenly thought I was going to be sick (or faint) and had to let it outside. I'm okish now but feel really drained. Don't think the prams caused it but I'm not sure what did!

icklekid I'm glad to hear that.
Rae Sorry to hear of funny turn. Was this a local John Lewis'? A journey wouldn't be nice after that.

Lucinda yes, I'm not brave enough to travel far at the moment! It's on a retail park about a 10 minute drive from home.

rae just take it easy. I've had a few incidents like that when I've been in shops. Literally dumping DH with shopping & DS to run outside for fresh air/puke. It's not nice. I think it was a sign I was doing too much. Have a nice rest this afternoon and look after yourself.

Hello ladies, having a read through to catch up on news, congratulations madrigral! :) any baby news from Spandau? Not sure if I've missed it? And special has gone quiet too.
Thinking of you all and welcome to the newbies, keep on this thread it's a lifeline and really helped me through my pregnancy!
Icant Jr is 3 weeks old already, he's been causing a bit of fuss but that's quite predictable with me as his mum haha! Hes lush though 💙

Very nice to hear from you, ICan't. Glad baby seems to be thriving.
"SleeepymrsE and Rae* I think it is very brave to go shopping, though I understand the lure of prams, and sweet little outfits. . Car park puking episodes are not fun.

Thanks Sleepy, feeling brighter today, did my 4 hours at work and have just ordered DH a Father's Day card 'from the bump' (because I am a loser). HR feel I overdid it last week so I'm going to do 4 hours Monday, Wednesday and Friday this week rather than attempting every day. I'm looking forward to a rest tomorrow and am so grateful for their support.

Lovely to hear from you ICant! I bet it doesn't feel like 3 weeks, must all be a blur!

Lucinda I'm just desperate to do something- I've been so fed up and was starting to resent anyone who could go outside Pram shopping is an utter minefield though, and I've fallen in love with one that we really can't afford, so maybe I should stay home more!

Hope that everyone else is surviving, thinking of you all.

Hello ladies, just checking in to see how you're all getting on. Hope the day has not been completely awful. Welcome to all the newbies and those of you in first tri, remember this too shall pass. This thread was a lifeline for me too through two awful hg pregnancies but I've come out the other end and so will you. Im currently cuddling dd2 who is also 3 weeks already! (Snap I can't!) Poor thing is quite poorly though with reflux like dd1...so that's two children with reflux to deal with...very hard but not surprising considering I was medicated for reflux through both pregnancies. She's quite sickly and seems to be in pain constantly through feeds so I'm having to hold her against me a lot to put pressure on her tummy which helps. Makes life hard though with a toddler too (hence the silence).

Madrigal congrats! So happy you have made your way to the pink castle!

Waiting for news from spandau and special!

Waves to icant, mother hen, Rae, ickle, monkey, American, meerka (sorry I'm use to your old name) and anyone else I've forgotten.
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Oh dear reebok sorry to hear about reflux, such a hard thing to see a small baby go through. Not sure if you've tried a sling but can be so helpful for keeping baby upright and close (although you may need more than one or to cover in muslins!)

rae I'm so pleased hr are being sensible and doesn't sound like you are being pushed to go back more than you are happy to. I did a few hours mon&wed for a while and having day at home in between did work well. Being nosy now what pram would you like if money was no issue...

icant fussy babies are all I know! Always find it funny with calm settled babies...never know what to do with them! Will happily hold someone else's crying child though. If I could choose would quite like a calm settled one this time ...or at least not as colicky! Lovely to hear from you!

chocoholic how are you doing? Hope work isn't too bad and sickness is still relatively under control!

Well building work is at peak dust levels so can't use kitchen, dining room or garden, I have sats in school every day to try and help out with (stop teachers being scared about and motivate children!) And half term next week that I can't even contemplate!!! No wonder it's 3.30am and I'm wide awake!!! 😥

Morning all, glad to hear you're a bit brighter rae but do keep trying to take it easy. I'm nosey like ikkle and was wondering what pram you'd chosen. We have an uppababy vista for DS which I would highly recommend.

reebok sorry to hear your little one is struggling. It must be heartbreaking for you to see. Can the doctor prescribe her something to help?

ikkle you def sound like you have too much going on but I'm the same so it's understandable. I'm on an early train for a work meeting. Couldn't face a long drive so thought the train would be more manageable. I've got another meeting in a few weeks which will require me to catch a train at 5.30! I've done it once before but not when pregnant and suffering HG.

Anyway, hope everyone has a good day.