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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 06/05/2016 18:29

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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RaeSkywalker · 16/06/2016 21:45

Lucy I hope the scan goes well. They were understanding when I called the day before and said I was worried I'd throw up and not have a full bladder, so hopefully they can do something if you are unwell. Your consultant sounds like an utter moron!! What an amazing bedside manner!

mrsmonkey glad your DD was ok in the sleeping bags! I got a brand new gro bag off gumtree today for £1. The seller said that their child didn't settle in it. So now I'm thinking- argh, is this common?! Luckily my parents are really understanding and supportive, I think my mum was just trying to explain my auntie's behaviour to me. Not looking forward to seeing everyone else on Sunday, I think I will get arsey if any comments are made.

almond great news with the scan- good luck with the pram!

Thanks Special Smile

SleepymrsE · 16/06/2016 21:57

Evening everyone, just got back from the after dinner speech I was giving. I gave my apologies in advance about not joining in the actual meal bit and just rocking up to do the talk. Most seemed ok but did get a 'you're pregnant not ill comment from someone', but as I was on work time I had to smile and be pleasant despite wanting to slap him across the face.

Anyway, got home, pj's on and straight in bed. Had to nap before I went out too although today has been tiring - DS had a hospital appointment so still continuing to rack up my time at the local hospital and I now need to make him a follow up appointment at the GP tomorrow. I really should count how many hours I've spent talking to HCPs since the beginning of the year - God bless the NHS!

Pleased to hear the heart scan went ok lucy although as others have said the consultant sounds mean. Can you ask for another one?

almond it's such a relief getting through the 20 week scan isn't it? I was really nervous beforehand. This little one was measuring bigger than dates so again it's another example of how well they tend to do on the HG diet. After my exotic bolognese the other day, I've reverted back to type on cheese sandwich and cornflakes diet.

special I'm also very fed up of the heartburn. The gaviscon advance doesn't seem to be doing much but I'm loathed to have to make another appointment at the doctors. Will see how things are next week I think.

ickle hope you've had a better day, have you kept much down? Not sure how you're coping with the work on the house, it would drive me nuts although admittedly when I was at my worst I couldn't give a monkeys that the house looked a state (although admittedly I was only seeing our bedroom & ensuite most of the time).

mrsmonkey glad things went ok for you at the hospital. It does sound like it's totally wiped you out though. I'm dreading getting the sickness back badly in the third trimester after hearing yours and ickle experiences. I'm not sure I could cope. You're both dealing with it incredibly well.

rae and others who have enjoyed the online shopping, one bit of advice I would give is try not to fall into the trap of buying everything and anything on the market for little one. I said I wouldn't, then I did, then we didn't use half of it. Grobags, however, are amazing. We've just moved DS to a pillow & duvet but they were great from about 6 weeks old when he was big enough to fit in one. I still had wasted loads of money on a pretty cotbed bumper set & matching one for the crib only to never use them. I even ended up buying breathable bumpers so spent even more money. Luckily we don't need to buy much this time, in fact most money is currently being spent on new furniture for what will be DS's new big boy bedroom. Once I get this next couple of weeks out of the way at work it is my next project.

Totally agree with others about going away rae esp as your day at work on the high pressure project gave you a boost, this will probably do the same. Just take some sick bags out with you just in case.

Right best get to bed, need as much sleep as I can get although heartburn already bad... Luckily the headache hasn't been as bad though so guess I should be pleased.

RaeSkywalker · 16/06/2016 22:06

Sleepy glad that the speech went well! I think my eyes actually rolled into the back on my head when I read "you're pregnant not ill". Did you say anything? You are both pregnant and ill! Angry

Thanks for the shopping advice. Glad that you like Gro Bags too. I'm (hopefully) being quite sensible and researching what we really need- we've decided against a cot bedding 'set' because I'm lazy and a fitted sheet and gro bag just sounds so much easier Blush We do have lots of clothes but it's mostly baby grows with scratch mitts built in and vests. Again, because they sound easier than outfits! I think that DH is going to go nuts on the monitor purchase but I'll let that one slide- I don't have the energy (or knowledge) to argue 😂

LucyHMK · 16/06/2016 22:46

MrsMonkey yes, that has turned into my plan. All extra tummy weight I did have, I certainly don't now, so that's something good about this HG business.

almond we're in Winchester & went down to Southampton for pram shopping (similar chaos) - highly recommend John Lewis. Plus they had some fun fake grass to play with. We basically tried them all & I then wanted pretty much the most expensive one, typical! All the handles are so low, prams do not have much choice for a tall family.

special yes and yes. What a total @rse he is, had a proper row over the phone after he was super rude to me. I felt like death anyway (was just before I joined here actually) & told him if he wouldn't co operate I'd like to know the private options as I refused to have this conversation about how likely it was that I'd have an aortic dissection. Didn't seem to get that any risk was too much risk for me. At this rate I'll be in the Portland - hey at least the food there is great & you can eat post baby, right? Now, to find a willing financial backer... Oh, DH! 😉

MotherofPearl · 16/06/2016 22:50

Hi all, and sorry for the long silence. I've been reading the thread most days but struggling to keep up with posting. As Barmee said on here the other day, 3 DC hits you hard! DD2 is now 6 weeks old, and a joy, although she's suffering from the dreaded early evening colic which is tough. At least I know from experience that she'll outgrow it by roughly 12 weeks (or at least that's what the other two did!). On the plus side she's just started doing real smiles - those sweet gummy smiles make every second of the HG worth it.
Just wanted to say to Special and others suffering from heartburn, have you tried ranitidine? My midwife recommended it to me at about 34 weeks and it was a game changer for me, really helped to reduce those nasty acid voms. You can buy it over the counter as Zantac, or there's as a cheap Tesco own-label version.
Hope you're all managing OK, and will keep lurking to see birth announcements. Think of you all often, and will try to offer support on the thread when I can. Big cheery waves to Lucinda, SeaEagle, Ickle, Rae, MrsMonkey, SleepyMrs, Almond and all newbies or anyone I've rudely neglected. Keep on keeping on; you're all doing amazingly.

icklekid · 17/06/2016 04:07

Oh no motherofpearl not colic 😥 you have my sympathy. I am literally praying that baby does not get colic or reflux as do not know how I will cope this time if they do. Obviously I will cope but those few weeks felt like an eternity last time. Knowing it will end (around 12 weeks for me too) should help....I hope!

lucy so sorry about idiot consultant hope they sort it quickly so you don't have to deal with him again. Glad you found some good pram options- dh is tall and was impressed with our mamas and papas one just incase that is worth a try? I love a bargain too!

rae using sheet and gro bag is not lazy it's normal! Or is for my friends at least! Reduces any worries about safer sleeping, no need to pop in and risk waking when going to bed as know they are warm and safe and easy to change quickly if sick or nappy requires! Honestly they are genius! I don't know anyone whose baby didn't settle in them...some preferred swaddling when tiny but then progress to grobags in the end! Very similar can be said on baby gros- just so easy, comfy and cute! Win win!

sleepy I was going to say exactly the same as rae hg is an illness so you are certainly both pregnant and ill! Smile and secretly want to slap around the face! Hope you managed to get a good nights sleep.

almond good plan on the not telling anyone re sex of baby- we don't count though right? 😉 hope your excited anyway!

special I'm thinking I will just go to coldplay! It will probably make me worse but right now I'm not good anyway! Work next week is unlikely anyway. Tickets are seated and I've not had a proper night out with dh for a long time. My mum will be fab with ds the following day. rae pleased to hear you are going to enjoy yourself too!

Well dh did come home which was lovely although ds has decided to revert back to 18 months previously and be super clingy to mummy at the moment! I don't know if it's pregnancy related or what but if I am around he only wants me not dh. It all got too much for dh when trying to give him tea and he snapped at him that he had had enough. I totally get it. There are days I have had enough of ds too! But don't think dh believed me...such a shame with fathers day on Sunday. I just wish I could do something about ds- they spend lots of time together (although obviously working part time I spend more). If I'm not around ds is fine and will happily be with dh. He takes him out every weekend and they have a great time. However if I'm an option he will scream if I'm busy and dh tries to play with him. This obviously does not bode well for baby number 2! He just grew out of it before so am hoping the same will happen again (and quickly!)

Waves at anyone rudely missed out. After sleeping through the whole night yesterday and feeling amazing for it 3.30am is less ideal this morning. Hope you are all sleeping better and not being kicked to pieces. Whilst it is obviously annoying to be kept awake I do secretly love knowing all is ok with baby! When does movement decrease naturally or is that a myth? Can't remember but should probably be looking on that count the kicks thing for reassurance if movement changes from constantly being beaten up to only every now and again!

LucyHMK · 17/06/2016 05:43

I think my phone has had enough, double posting, can't scroll up - oh dear, Apple!

Anyhoo, the cat woke me up about half an hour ago shouting about the rain - my word is it raining. Took my anti sickness & now trying to not move. Been so sick the last few days that lifting my head is enough to trigger it.

I did have a wander over to M&P for the pram & found that they seemed to be mostly copies of the branded prams. There's one that looks like the Bugaboo pram I want in there, but I figured the resale value on the branded version was higher (eBay mooch) & so if we are only planning on having one, we might as well go for the resale gamble. It does, however, mean I am rapidly turning into the type of mum my friends can't stand from their baby groups (all the labels) - it's a good job they seem to be able to overlook that fact due to their excitement about the baby!

As for the sleeping bags, my mum friends all use them & I've not heard anything but good reviews. As 'Aunty Lucy' (chief babysitter for 4 cute little monkeys) I've not struggled to change any of the babies in them as you just unzip & fold back. I even managed it just after my surgery & I couldn't lift the kettle. So I was sold.

As for the consultant, my feelings are basically summed up by the punch emoji 👊🏼 When we had that convo he wouldn't tell me his name, which I assume was because he knew I'd complain. Not seen him FTF yet, have an appointment early August & unless he decides to turn the charm to 110% I shall be asking for someone else. He was so exceptionally rude & hung up on me after I told him he'd completely panicked me, so I'm not overly impressed. How he passed the bedside manner test, I'll never know.

Bit nervous about the scan now, hope the baby is okay. I'm assuming being sick so much means it's still happily feeding off of me, yet I'm still a little panicked having lost one so recently.

Whoever (sorry, can't scroll!) was talking about the big boy room, that made me smile - so very cute!

Sorry for the lack of personals, again!

SleepymrsE · 17/06/2016 06:39

lucy have you tried the uppababy vista? That's what we have for DS as DH is really tall and loved it. John Lewis do stock it as that's where we first tried it out.

Hope everyone has a good day. Despite heartburn I slept solidly until DHs alarm and DS woke up at 6.

SleepymrsE · 17/06/2016 06:40

Oh and forgot my whole purpose for messaging... To wish lucy good luck with the scan. Baby brain strikes again.

MotherofPearl · 17/06/2016 06:51

Ickle, thanks for sympathy about colic. It's not easy, especially as I can see she's in pain, but honestly nothing is as bad as enduring HG. Ever since the birth I've felt so elated, so happy that the awful 'fog' has lifted. Can't wait for you all to get there too. Sorry to hear you're still suffering and also about your DS being clingy. I found my DS was the same before the birth, but I think the anticipation was much worse than the reality for him. I could see he was worried about being displaced by the baby, but when she came along he realised that she's very boring (from his 4 year old point of view!) and that she poses no threat to him really. I make a point of still doing his story time in the evening when I can, by putting baby in her baby carrier, one of the few places she'll settle. Confused Sorry to see that you're still waking up so early; hope you get some rest today.

RaeSkywalker · 17/06/2016 06:59

Lovely to hear from you Mother! Hope that the colic eases soon, it must be awful to watch her in pain.

ickle that is a shame about your DS. Maybe it is pregnancy related? I'm sure he will grow out of it! Thank you for the wise advice on gro bags and baby grows Smile

Good luck for the scan today Lucy!

mrsmonkey14 · 17/06/2016 09:46

Morning all
almond glad to hear 20w scan went well
rae I don't know any babies that dislike sleeping bags so am sure yours will love it!

sleepy well done on the speech and not insulting the obnoxious colleague!

I quite agree with ickle on the bedding front - fitted sheet and sleeping bag (once they're big enough for the bag) is all you need! I don't even know why they sell those cot bumpers, they can be dangerous as little ones can get tangled up in them.

Enjoy pram shopping all of you looking into that! (So nice to talk about something other than HG 😉) can't rem who said but I agree uppababy is good for tall parents. We have the uppababy cruz for DD (like the vista but smaller as we go on public transport a fair bit) and we love it. I'm not tall but DH is. We've now had to buy enormous double tank (!) though - bugaboo donkey. I'll keep the cruz though as sometimes I'll do sling for baby and DD in pram. Good quality prams tend to retain their value so can always be sold on!

ickle I'm glad you're going to go to Coldplay and hope you enjoy it. We're meant to be seeing Lionel Richie in a few weeks, I hope i make it! Sorry to hear DS so clingy, I think it's the age as well as the pregnancy? As DD is the same but switched allegiance between me and DH on a daily basis. It can be quite upsetting for the 'rejected' parent so I feel for your DH but hope he gets used to it and lets it wash over him. DD had a real daddy stage a couple of months ago and I used to cry as I felt I was already failing DD! But now I'm ok about it. ('Noooo! Daddy help! Go AWAY mummy!' Lol)
I think movement 'changes' but not nec decreases around 32w when they have less room ickle. Just track baby's usual pattern and get checked out if you are at all worried, better to be safe.

lucy hope your scan went ok and sorry to hear about horrible consultant, definitely don't see him again, I'm sure you can request to see someone else.

MOP lovely to hear from you! So sorry to hear of colic, you must be exhausted. Fingers crossed its over soon and hope also you are now recovered from birth?

Waves to lucinda and everyone else!

After my minor disagreement with DH I was too unwell/ knackered to go to the choir yesterday anyway!

Home with DD today but weather is rubbish so for once I think we'll just hide indoors. CBeebies will help me parent!!

SleepymrsE · 17/06/2016 09:54

mrsmonkey I'm chuckling to myself at your last sentence... I'm sat on the sofa with milkshake while DS sits and watches CBeebies.

LucyHMK · 17/06/2016 12:05

Sorry for the brief message, I'm at work. Just to let you all know that baby is fine - if not a little big... Oh, the irony!

Thanks for all the well wishes & support x

icklekid · 17/06/2016 13:35

So pleased baby is fine lucy what a relief!

sleepy and mrsmonkey ds watched a fair amount of tv this morning so know that feeling oh to well. We then went round a friends to entertain him this morning. Had grand plans for fathers day cards however have given up and bought a load of stickers he can put on (I may have already done some in order for it to look half decent!) and that will do! still annoyed he didn't make one with the childminder!

mrsmonkey glad it's not just ds...I am fine with him being clingy to dh if that was an option (as long as he doesn't mind when he's not here!) as know how much dh would love it. Just never been that way...but he has been much better for ages. I do feel for dh- he is better at me leaving him at the childminders then me leaving him with dh...

Well have just tried to eat lunch, will see how that goes/ if it stays down. Can't actually get into kitchen (hopefully next week will be over for building work) so can't try anything more exciting than a sandwich. Thankfully ds went down for his nap without any fuss despite the loud banging etc so hopefully get a proper rest. Don't think will be going to work next week...not unless I get better. Trying to stay positive but overwhelmingly frustrated by this.

RaeSkywalker · 17/06/2016 13:41

mrsmonkey the weather is rotten here too. The rain is coming down in sheets! Hope you enjoy CBeebies (you too Sleepy!) Grin

Lucy I'm so glad that the scan went well! Did you need a full bladder?

ickle I'm so sorry that you're frustrated. I feel your pain! I hope that the lunch stays down and that you manage to rest whilst your DS naps.

I just got totally, utterly soaked in torrential rain! Good times Grin

LucyHMK · 17/06/2016 13:55

Any luck with the lunch ickle?

I did not need a full bladder, but I do for the gender scan in 3 weeks, which is not on the NHS. Not getting much work done here, the stress of this morning has taken it out of me completely. Zzz.

LucindaE · 17/06/2016 17:45

Lucy Congratulations on scan. I cannot believe that MCP consultant Angry. Lucky he turned down that job in the Diplomatic Service...
MotherofPearl Lovely to hear from you. Sympathies from another who had a colicky baby. Those smiles are so adorable. Thanks for lovely message of support, as ever.
SeaEagleFeather Waves.
SleepymrsE I missed that bit about your being due to make an after dinner speech, without even the b enefit of the dinner. Congratulations.
I can't believe that man; he'd know, of course. ..That must have made steam burst out of your ears as you couldn't give a blunt answer. I don't know the figure of those who have it return badly in the third tri I'd say for most it can return but it's nothing like as bad as in the first tri and poor mrsmonkey was unusual in having it return so badly she needed fluids. Hopefully, you won't be one of the unlucky ones.
Rae Sorry to hear of aunt's pressure.
almondbutter Happy news about scan from you, too.
Who mentioned cornflakes? How could I forget? They are defiinitely worth a try.
Waves to mrsmonkey and icklekid Who both deserve a Star for getting by.
SpecialStains Thanks for asking. Mother Hen is fine; as for my mother, sadly it's a case of 'it comes to us all'.
I hope I haven't overlooked anyone. Can't believe that my pc won't go off any minute, so I'm still in the habit of typing glancing down at the hub!

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SpecialStains · 17/06/2016 21:11

Bah, just wrote a long message and the cat deleted it. Angry

Sleepy Point me in the direction of the person that made that comment. I'm tired, nauseous and feeling quite belligerent, and I think I could make them change their mind.

MoP Sorry about colicky baby, but glad your eldest has accepted the little one.

Lucy Glad scan went well. I don't think HG seems to have much affect on the size of baby; there's been a few good size ones on this thread produced on a diet of crisps and tinned peaches!

Ickle You sound exhausted at the moment. I hope your building work finishes on time next week, and then you'll have a lovely new kitchen.

Rae, Sleepy and MrsMonkey I'm sure I'll be equally well acquainted with CBeebies when the time comes...

Almond I thinking keeping the sex quiet would have been a sensible thing to do, and was our plan until we walked out of the scan and DH said he really wanted to tell his Mum. I hope my DS is that keen to share things with me when he's older. Smile My family are so annoying about it though.

Waves to everyone else. Smile

Had a semi productive day. A very kind person at uni has given me bagfuls of really lovely boys clothes (some brand new) and lent me her TENS machine. I gave her a box of chocolates for a previous couple of bags of clothes, but she's given me so much it's incredibly generous. She mentioned her eldest boy is 3 next week and I want to get him a present - what's in for three year olds atm?

icklekid · 17/06/2016 22:24

Thanks special had plumbers, electricians and joiners all here today! Fingers crossed all will be complete (internally anyway) next week...can not wait to get all painting done and furniture in and actually be able to enjoy the room! Having a total mind blank on 3 year old boys- paw patrol still?

Thanks to all who asked about lunch. I was indeed successful at keeping a sandwich down at lunch and an ice lolly down this eve. Win!

rae sorry to hear about getting drenched it is just coming from nowhere at the moment! I always have waterproof options for ds but never me!

LucyHMK · 18/06/2016 09:07

ickle I feel your pain, had the plumber here until gone midnight last night. May have flounced off to bed in a (vomit induced) huff. No showers & no drinking water when you're being sick is NOT fun. Also may have lost my rag a smidge with the people at Southern Water.

Lucinda that's hilarious! Can you imagine?!! Ha ha!

Special I mentioned the tinned peaches, they looked a bit perplexed. We can't be the only ones, surely? The hospital couldn't get any blood out of me so I had to sit drinking glasses of water. I mentioned I needed peach juice, think they thought I'd finally lost it!

Hope everyone manages their weekend plans.

SeaEagleFeather · 18/06/2016 15:03

MoP lovely to hear from you and to hear about those tiny baby smiles ... they just melt you all over, don't they!

rae we loved babygrobags. a romper suit and one of those and both babies flourished happily.

sorry just being called out, wishing everyone a quiet saturday ... except fo the Coldplay concert! :) do hope that goes well

RaeSkywalker · 18/06/2016 16:49

Special how did the cat delete it? Shock lovely of your colleague- we got our goddaughter a toy shopping trolley for Christmas which has been a big hit. It's from John Lewis and is a mini Waitrose one (embarrassingly middle class!) We're getting her a toy till and plastic fruit and veg for her birthday.

ickle lovely news about the sandwich! I got soaked agin today- I will never learn!

Waves to SeaEagle

LucindaE · 18/06/2016 20:12

Rae They do love that playfood! My daughter had a cake with velcro that would be cut, too; I don't know if they still do them? I'm sure boys would enjoy that as much.
Lucy Glad that made you smile. The only way not to be driven mad by these infuriating remarks...
icklid Congratulations on sandwich and ice lolly.
Special Cats do seem to love jumping on keyboards!
Waves to SeaEagleFeather and everyone.

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icklekid · 19/06/2016 04:40

Well ladies this will be brief as I went to sleep at midnight and for some ridiculous reason my body still woke at 4am...however I did it! Coldplay were brilliant. Was sad not to be jumping up and down dancing but took it steady (seated a lot) and had a great time. My turn for a lie in this morning but dh is claiming fathers day...my mum will try and take ds however as she put him to bed I predict first thing he will want is mummy...urgh will make dh drive home so I can sleep then!

rae how was goodwood? Hope you had an equally good time!

lucinda yes ds LOVES toy food especially the stuff you cut in half and velcro together!

lucy hope you now have drinking water...I tried really hard to focus on getting things working for the weekend and not being frustrates with plumber (happy plumber gets job done better and quicker was my logic so kept feeding him biscuits!) Hope they got blood eventually- nightmare when dehydrated for me too!