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Hyperemesis Support

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LucindaE · 06/05/2016 18:29

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk

If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
links.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!scenario

I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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SpecialStains · 10/06/2016 21:55

Hello,

Ickle and Rae I had a good time at the cinema - saw 'me before you' and had a nice time (though it is sad). The air conditioning at my local Vue is wonderful. Grin

Lucy A friend recommended gin gins to me. I hope they work better for you than they did for me.

MrsMonkey I'm glad it's not just me that could see faces so clearly on the scan, no-body else believes me when I say how much baby looks like DH! I obviously like DH's face very much, and DH looked very sweet in baby photos so I'm pleased...and a little bit hoping he does look something like me too! I hope he entirely gets DH's temperament though. I'm sure your second DD will be just as gorgeous as your first. DD1 sounds very sweet giving you cuddles this morning :-) . Sorry to hear about the braxton hicks and hope you get a good nights sleep tonight.

And Really pleased to hear the cyclizine is working. Are you able to eat much despite the nausea?

Waves to everyone else. :-)

icklekid · 11/06/2016 02:58

special glad the cinema was a success been a long time since I've been- I don't know this having kids really plays havoc with having a social life! Those of you who've seen babys faces were they 4d scans? My ds doesn't look like either dh or I so will be new if this one does! 😄

lucinda well I managed to stay strong with the rest of the worktops which dh wasn't impressed with...funny these men folk! It is beautiful though! Internet any better?

rae we had angel delight last weekend although ds loved it far more than last time which meant less for me. Any dinner that stays down is a winner for me! Mine dramatically did not so went to sleep feeling dreadful! Hopeyou had a lovely time with your friends. I'm having worst nights sleep for a long time! Joy of joys...

lucy and mrsmonkey your both very brave mentioning ginger on this thread as a solution to hg relief 😉 however as it isn't the biscuits you may have got away with it!

mrsmonkey sorry to hear about labour scare not what is needed. Hope your dd jad a nice long nap. Ds managed 3 hours despite massive thunder storm and builders being very noisy. To say I was jealous doesn't begin to describe it!

andagain really glad you have support for when it all gets too much. Never feel bad for asking- I've had to learn the hard way uf I don't I make myself worse which helps no one! Hope you get some respite at your parents.

Well its 3am been awake and hour and several times before that. Have got up and come downstairs- taken cyclazine in the hope it will make me sleepy, paracetamol because my hips are coming unattached and trying desperately to keep both down whilst feeling horrendously sick. Tomorrow meant to be helping dh paint the extension...ha ha ha I may manage watching ds whilst he plays independently or watches tv... right best try this sleep lark!

LucindaE · 11/06/2016 21:14

icklekid Sorry to hear of nausea, insomnia and pains in hips. Oh, dear.
Special Congratulations on cinema visit.
Rae Angel Delight! Now, why didn't we think of that on his thread before?
What flavour?
I hope BT may - fingers crossed - have possibly rectified matters...
I have been looking for the last due dates list. with 'amysmummy* off, here it is.

Due Dates

Iam 22 June
mrsmonkey 23 July
racheljayne 10 August
Special Stains 17 August
Icklekid 31 August
SleepyMrsE 8 October
mrs American 10 October
1MoreTime 19 October
rocket 8 November
RaeSkywalker 20 November
shopaholic 10 December

I hope nobody is suffering too badly, now it's not quite so hot.

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Vixxfacee · 11/06/2016 21:25

Hi everyone,

I am sorry to be joining but hi!
I am looking for some advice. In my first pregnancy I had severe sickness and lost a stone and half in 3 weeks before sadly miscarrying at 10 weeks.

I'm now 7 weeks pregnant after ivf (very happy) and the sickness started again a few weeks ago. It's progressively got worse this week to the point I now can't eat or even drink water without vomiting.

Any advice, I am desperate Sad

RaeSkywalker · 11/06/2016 21:32

Lucinda I'm so glad that you've got your internet connection sorted! Star

Special glad you had a nice time! Our house has luckily stayed cool downstairs but the bedrooms are unbearably hot. It seems to have broken now though.

ickle I'm so sorry you're suffering. I hope that tonight is better.

DH is loads better and is currently boarding the loft so we can move the Christmas tree and other loft-y items from what will eventually be the baby's room. I love cleanliness and order so this has made my week!

Had a lovely time with my friends. We barely talked about the pregnancy or HG (weren't avoiding, just discussed briefly and moved on). It was nice to be 'old me' for an hour or so!

The friend that really upset me a couple of weeks ago (saying HG doesn't seem that bad, if I really wanted the baby I'd put up with it, etc) wants to meet up next weekend. DH is emphatic about not wanting to see her but said he'd drop me off if I wanted to go. I think I'm just too hurt about it at the moment to pretend otherwise, so am going to make my excuses until I can calm down a bit. I'm feeling quite low and don't really need another emotional kicking!

Hope that everyone else is surviving. Thinking of you all Flowers

RaeSkywalker · 11/06/2016 21:36

Sorry Vixx- I was typing my essay when you posted.

You poor thing. Have you seen a doctor about it yet, and are you on medication? If you aren't I'd get on to 111 now and try to see someone tonight.

It sounds like you aren't even managing sips of water- is your wee very dark? I think you need checking urgently for dehydration/ ketones in your urine. I wouldn't wait until Monday.

Other advice- I found ice lollies good when I was at my worst, and also managed to nibble individual Rice Krispies.

Sorry to hear about your previous loss Flowers

RaeSkywalker · 11/06/2016 21:37

^^ further to the above, even if you are on medication, I'd seek help tonight.

Vixxfacee · 11/06/2016 21:39

Thank you for replying. I am not on any medication and haven't contacted a dr as I didn't think it was bad enough. What would 101 do? I just feel really ungrateful for complaining due to the ivf.

RaeSkywalker · 11/06/2016 21:47

I called 111 when I was in a similar position to what you describe. The doctor measured the ketones in my urine and said that I was slightly below the level where I'd be admitted and put on a drip. He prescribed my cyclizine to help with the sickness also, which did help. He said I should go back if I got worse.

Unfortunately, I was admitted a couple of days later after my ketones got a lot higher and I couldn't keep anything down.

I'd seriously call them- they can at least check what your ketones are like if they see you to assess whether you need to be admitted, and prescribe you something if you'd like to try medication.

It might be an idea to order yourself some ketostix from Amazon so that you can measure this yourself at home.

Please don't feel that you're ungrateful. HG is horrendous. I've certainly had more moments of despair than I'd care to admit over it Flowers

mrsmonkey14 · 11/06/2016 21:55

Just hopping on quickly to say vixx as others have said if you really can't keep down water/fluids, you must see someone ASAP. You can go direct to a&e (I know not ideal on a sat night), not keeping down fluids for 24h when you are pregnant is a medical emergency.
Alternatively if you have an out of hours GP helpline in your area you could try that first.
Don't worry about complaining.
If you are dehydrated (they will test your urine for ketones) you will need an IV drip to get fluids into you. They may also give you anti-emetics (anti sickness drugs) intravenously or via injection.
Going forwards it's very likely you need to be on medication to manage the sickness, and you can buy ketostix from pharmacy to test your wee yourself in future.
Can you keep anything down at all? Try flat coke/ice lolly/ice cubes.

mrsmonkey14 · 11/06/2016 21:59

Ps. In my haste I failed to say so sorry to hear of your previous loss vixx.

Back tomorrow xx

almondbutter · 11/06/2016 22:44

vixx, whether or not it's IVF, there's no need to feel bad about complaining -- it's what the group is for and we all know the misery of HG.
I too was in your position and was referred by GP to A&E who instantly stuck me on a drip. A&E on a Saturday night isn't the dream, but both times I have been admitted recently I have been in a bed and on a drip within 15 minutes of arrival. They don't mess around with this and they won't think you're wasting their time.
Keep us up to speed. And if you have a corner shop that's still open, some of us find chocolate milk good and not painful to throw back up.
x

icklekid · 12/06/2016 05:14

Thanks lucinda and rae still in agony this morning but ds is sleeping better and my turn for a lie in this morning so won't complain!

Welcome vixx so sorry to hear about your previous mc and congratulations on this pregnancy. Dehydration in pregnancy, as others have said, is dangerous for both you and baby so please don't feel bad asking for help and getting the medication you need. Cyclazine is a good one to start with and was sufficient for my last pregnancy- if you scroll back in this thread there is some good information on different drugs to try and how they help. Useful if you get a less knowledgeable gp! Just to say the first trimester is awful truly horrid. For some (most?) It does get better soon- not the magic 12 weeks of normal pregnancy sickness I'm afraid but better as hormone levels aren't quite so crazy and you get the right drugs/combination of drugs. I'm just going into third trimester and whilst sickness continues compared to the not keeping anything down and being sick 10+ times a day it has been better (managable) for a while. Not sure if you are thinking ahead to Monday and work but a lot of us on this thread end up having to be signed off at some point because rest does make a big difference. Sorry for mammoth post!

rae so pleased you got out and saw friends sounds like a perfect evening! Don't feel bad about not wanting to see your unsupportive 'friend' I think dh reaction is very telling!

Hope the drop in humidity is helping others- we have a street party tomorrow I've been pretending trying to help organise so shame about rain forecast but will no doubt be very British about the whole thing! To be honest whilst I love tgis type of community event I don't have the energy for it and will be over ds nap time so would rather be resting with him. Doesn't help dh would rather be painting than socialising! However if its on the doorstep rain might be the perfect excuse to pop home!

LucyHMK · 12/06/2016 06:19

So much to catch up on.

Welcome, Vixx, sorry you've had to join & for your previous loss. I'm the same here with a miracle baby after a recent loss & trust me, I've done my fair share of HG whinging! My first pregnancy got to 7/8 weeks before I had emergency surgery (ruptured ectopic) & by that point I'd lost 2 1/2 stone - knew I was pregnant before the 6 tests agreed as I was so ill. This time the sickness started at about week 4 & now I'm 12 weeks & heavily medicated. Been on meds since about week 8, but completely agree with the other ladies, as I wish I'd sought help sooner. It was a struggle through the various drugs to find one that worked for me (& a few other mums to be here), so worth seeking help asap. As my doctor said, 'sometimes I recommend crackers in the morning & eating small meals throughout the day, sometimes the only thing to recommend is the drugs, & this is one of those times'. Keep us updated!

Ickle I know! I did think it was risky, but they actually seems to help a little. Maybe because they are just so strong that I no longer have taste buds & can't smell anything when I suck them. Smells are my trigger. Any smells!

Lucinda have you got your connection fixed yet? Handy tip about BT, they really respond well to angry tweets about being without service when they have a duty of care towards vulnerable people. They don't like the bad publicity. Got my grandmother's new phone line date moved from 6 weeks after she moved in (seriously, she had an emergency alarm!) to 2 days after she was in. Worth a shot if you still have no joy.

Been up since 5 starting today's meds early. Absolutely determined to go today. I have a hamper full of food to eat (ha ha), or failing that, water to sip! Going to attempt to smuggle in some plain crackers into Buckingham Palace & eat them in the loos or something. So glamorous! Hoping I can find a kind guard who felt Kate's plight. Kind of glad it's not a sunny day though (perhaps just me on that too!) Wish me luck ladies!

LucyHMK · 12/06/2016 06:28

Oh, I forgot to mention. I've been more than a little concerned that my hair has been falling out (like a LOT) & another mum friend who had HG even worse than me (she was in hosp for 14 weeks 😕) said the same thing happened to her. Is this a common HG problem? I mentioned it to the doctor but he seemed unconcerned. I keep wondering that maybe I'm now so thin & malnourished (even thinner than post first pregnancy weight loss - now 4 stone down) that my hair's taking the strain 😭 I realise that it's a trivial concern, but still, is it not bad enough to spend most of my day by the loo without loosing my hair? Come on!
Anyone having the same problem?

SleepymrsE · 12/06/2016 08:12

Morning all.

Sorry to hear you've had to join us vixx, you've had some great advice. If you can get into a local out of hours GP or walk in this morning that would hopefully result in prescription of some much needed anti sickness meds. If they won't prescribe or you're feeling worse then a&e. As others have said, don't be afraid to get signed off work. I was lucky in that I managed with 7 weeks off and 4 weeks phased return. Many are signed off for much longer as sleep and rest really does help and is often the only thing you will be able to manage. Drink whatever you fancy (flavoured milk is often good or for some it was tinned fruit juice), as rae suggested ice lollies are good to nibble to get a tiny bit of fluid and sugar down. If you do want to try and eat, again - whatever you fancy. Don't feel bad if you're unable to. These HG babies tend to do pretty well and considering I lost 1.5 stone in a few weeks early on, babyE was measuring bigger than dates at my 20 week scan. As lucinda often says, this will pass. I often got through some dark days knowing there was an end point and that it is all worth it. Also, don't be alarmed if you feel the need to punch anyone that suggests ginger biscuits, it is a natural reaction for most of us.

Sorry been a bit awol, had a busy few days with work and then DS duties. Felt rotten yesterday morning but still managed to go to a birthday party with DS. Was asleep early in the evening and despite having really bad heartburn all night I'm not actually feeling too bad this am. Had to work from home on Thursday due to swollen feet, ankles, and calf. Spoke to assessment unit as it was much worse in one leg. I officially got told I had to rest with my feet up for the rest of the day - hard to do with a toddler tho. Also had to take my wedding & engagement rings off as fingers getting fat now too. Hips haven't been too bad but still niggling. Better since the introduction of more pillows into the bed. Will keep an eye on it and mention to midwife at next appointment.

Tried to catch up a bit but may have missed a some so apologies. Well done ickle on your busy social schedule. You're managing really well considering you're still sick quite a lot. Also, totally get the irrational emotions for things such as beautiful breakfast bars. rae well done to you too on a few successful outings, especially your bike ride. Not a chance I could muster energy to do that so its a fantastic achievement.

special and mrsmonkey not long to go now - you're in the final stretch. Hopefully the sickness won't make a drastic reappearance and you're able to manage these next few weeks. October still feels like a lifetime away for me.

lucy I did have a period of time where lots of my hair fell out but that was likely due to the fact I didn't brush my hair for weeks. I could just about muster energy to shower every 4 days but my hair would get tied straight up. When I eventually did start to brush my hair again loads came out.

Hope everyone has a good day. Sorry for anyone missed. Hi to lucinda too.

almondbutter · 12/06/2016 09:56

Lucy I think for once that this may be a normal pregnancy thing. A few girls I know and a couple on my ante natal bus have gone through periods of shedding loads of hair in pregnancy. My sister also lost loads of hair after a big medical trauma that was nothing to do with her hair and it's grown back even thicker than before. It must be dispiriting when you're already feeling less than fantastic, but hope it passes quickly for you.

LucindaE · 12/06/2016 11:13

Vixxfacee Welcome. Just missed you last night. You sound very ill, and I suppose you may well be in hospital getting fluids? You 've had great advice from everyone. If you haven't been admitted, then I would just add, do buy some kesostix form any chemists to keep an eye on signs of early dehydration. I found sips of flat coke good, and jelly, ice cubes, and the juice of tinned fruit. Oddly enough sweet drinks, and those famous ice lollies, are better to keep down than water. I don't know why! I'm sorry to hear of your loss earlier. Don't feel guilty about complaining about what is a serious illness. As others say, there are several safe drugs for the doctors to prescribe.
Rae Order and floorboards in the attic sounds good!
Great advice from Lucy SleepymrsE mrsmonkey Rae icklkid and everyone. Lucy Sorry to hear of hair falling. Like others, I am sorry to say I didn't comb mine often when suffering, so a lot came out when I did, so I couldn't tell if more came out than average.

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LucindaE · 12/06/2016 11:20

almondbutter Cross posted. How are things this morning?

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SpecialStains · 12/06/2016 11:24

Hello,

Lucy my mum still blames me for her thin hair! Apparently it all fell out in pregnancy and was never quite the same after. I do know of some people's who has grown back thicker though! Have fun at the Queen's birthday party!

Sleepy I love how close my name is getting to the top of that list! Sorry you've been feeling rotten.

MrsMonkey you're getting close to due date too!

Vix Congratulations on your pregnancy! If you need medical treatment, it's not complaining, and def not ungrateful. Dehydration is serious for pregnant women. If you didn't go to A&E last night, please can I recommend you get an out of hours GP appointment today? Call the NHS number and stress that you are pregnant, and need to see someone urgently. Alternatively, do you have a walk-in centre nearby?

Rae Glad DH is feeling better, and you are doing nesting type activities. I haven't got the nesting bug yet, but still very tired with work and my MSc, so hoping the nesting will kick in when I start mat leave (2 weeks to go!). I'd avoid seeing the hurtful friend for now, if I were you. Sorry you're feeling low at the moment - anything in particular, or just everything in general?

Went to a ball last night for DHs work and had a nice time, the venue was spectacular and they had lots of different salads as foods which meant that I could pick at whatever I fancied. I had lots of nice comments about my bump, and I loved the dress I wore. DH did lots of waddling side to side on the dance floor with me too. Very tired today, but have been bought pancakes and coffee in bed (I am very spoilt!). Need to do a food shop and clean the upstairs of the house today though.

RaeSkywalker · 12/06/2016 15:25

ickle I'm sorry you're still in pain- glad you got a lay in though!

Lucy hope you have a fab day! I haven't had the hair problem (yet)- probably something else to look forward to!

Sleepy the swelling sounds horrendous! It's good that you could work from home though. I did on Friday, it was great!

Special I'm not covinced it's nesting, I just think that now I'm feeling slightly better I've started to notice what a star the house is in again Grin I told DH last night that my nesting might have to be dictatorial if I'm not up to doing much of it myself, ha. Hopefully the next 2 weeks until mat leave will go quickly for you. So glad that you had a nice time at the ball- the food sounds ideal!

It's not anything specific causing me to feel low, I think it's just a combination of feeling so rubbish with HG, not being able to do my job properly as a result, my 'friend' being difficult, not being able to exercise or even prepare food. I'll snap out of it, I think it's just started to hit me over the last week or so hero rubbish it's been.

So I've managed to catch DH's bug. I was up all night with a hacking cough (you can imagine how well that's going for me in conjunction with HG), and it's not getting any better. Now I've got a headache too. I'm so cross because I was so rarely unwell before pregnancy, and now I've got HG, hayfever and a cough. Brilliant.

icklekid · 13/06/2016 01:26

Oh no rae I was really hoping you had avoided dh's bug sounds horrendous and not what you need at all. Hope you are in bed resting.

special a ball how incredibly exciting I'm glad you had a beautiful dress and spoiled yourself with pancakes in bed! Hope you didn't do too much yesterday though because no doubt you will have been tired...

sleepy well done on taking ds to party can be hard work to have enough energy to be enthusiastic etc. Hope you did manage to rest. It's so hot my fingers have definitely swollen loads which is not ideal. Thanks for sympathy over being emotional about breakfast bars!

lucy soo how was the Queens party? Hope you had an incredible time and didn't feel too bad. What a special once in a lifetime event!

vixx how are you doing?

So I did too much both sat and Sunday and al paying for it throwing up at 1am which hasn't happened for a long long time. Sat I spent the 3h ds slept for either cleaning or painting the extension. Sun I was with ds all day (other than when he was asleep when dh 'had' him!) and then trying to help setting up/being social at street party I wad exhausted. Dh was painting and doing jobs around the house which I know needing doing but I was really upset he didn't even come out for lunch with ds to join the street party that I had helped to organise. He knew it was important to me but didn't bother which meant we didn't spend any time together today. Gosh am lying here sweating and feeling very dizzy/lightheaded really not a good combination. Don't think I will be doing into work today some how... sleep seems doubtful...I hate pregnancy 😥

SleepymrsE · 13/06/2016 02:25

Oh ickle, poor you. I'm awake after needing another wee. Heartburn is horrid and hips achey so I was feeling sorry for myself. Your post has however put things into perspective. Pregnancy certainly isn't the wonderful thing that some people say it is and I often say my body hates it. You are doing so amazing, coping with feeling as crappy as you do for months on end, working, looking after a toddler and socialising.... Please don't be too hard on yourself. You can get through this, the finish line is in sight for you and come September you'll be smothering your new baby with gorgeous mummy kisses and this will already start to become a distant memory.

I do hope you can get some more sleep tonight. Can you take another anti sickness pill? Cold flannel on head and eyes may help esp if it's really warm where you are. I'm going to try and get a bit more sleep (after a glug of gaviscon) but will check in again in the morning to see how you're doing.

icklekid · 13/06/2016 04:38

Thanks sleepy just woken up must have drifted off eventually can't believe I'm awake so early. I'm a bit concerned I may have ante natal depression- I read your post about in a few months having a newborn and just wanted to cry not in happiness though. Wanting to cry because I am dreading those first few months. I found it so hard with ds and really struggled. I worry about how I will cope this time especially with 2... I have no way of knowing if this is because hg has driven me so low generally or if I should be concerned

SpecialStains · 13/06/2016 05:58

Hi ickle, I'm sorry to hear you're feeling low, and dh didn't join you and ds at your street party (sounds lovely btw!). You have my sympathies with the lack of sleep. I'm really struggling with it being too warm, feeling nauseous and foamy mouthed, and baby constantly moving (which I know is a good thing, but stops me sleeping). Didn't get to sleep until gone 1 last night and now wide awake. My eyes hurt I've had such little sleep.

I think it sounds like you're doing a fab job with your ds. I am honestly in awe of those of you who manage hg with a lo already to look after. You won't feel this sick forever, and hopefully second time round you already know what you're doing with a child? Second baby could be quite different.

Is ds at childcare today? Can you use the day to catch up on sleep? Would it be worth talking to a gp about your mood? Do you think a combination of hg, lack of sleep and general pregnancy exhaustion is making it worse?

I am really sorry you're feeling down. It's awful feeling worried and anxious and tired and tearful.

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