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Hyperemesis Gravidarium. Advice when trying for baby number 2

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tutu100 · 17/11/2006 23:16

I had very severe HG when pregnant with ds. Was sick the whole way through pregnancy. Hospitalised at 7 weeks and unable to get out of bed till 10 weeks. Vowed never to do it again. However broodiness is getting the better of me and I would like another baby. Dp is horrified at the thought of me going through another pregnancy like my first one. He thinks we would be unable to cope especially as we now have ds. Has anyone else had any experience of HG. If you had it in your first pregnancy did you have it in subsequent pregnancies and if so was it as bad?

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tutu100 · 18/11/2006 20:23

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evilstepmom · 18/11/2006 20:26

hi tutu, have only had the one and, like you, had godawful sickness. all i can say is that i've been told by more than one person that first is worse? not much help i know but at least it bumps your thread

lulumama · 18/11/2006 20:30

i think that you need to take a long term view of this

pregnancy is 40 weeks out of your life.

your baby will be part of your family for ever.

it is worth the sickness IMO. people rally round when you are unwell....esp if you are in hospital.

you will cope.....and so will DP.....

i was very sick first time and not as sick second time..

but no-one can predict what will happen!

it is worth taking a chance on....

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tutu100 · 18/11/2006 20:40

Yes, I agree with you lulumama a baby is worth whatever you go through and as pregnancy does only last 40 weeks (hopefully!) and even if I had to go through the same sickness as I had with my first pregnancy it would be worth it for the end result. However I don't think my partner feels the same. We do have a very supportive family, but there is no one available to look after ds during the day as they all work. I was wondering if anyone had taken pre-emptive treatment for HG as I read on the blooming awful website that if you recieve treatment early enough it can stop the HG from getting too bad. I think part of the reason I ended up in hospital was because none of the dr's I saw in the first few weeks believed me when I said how often I was vomiting. I think they thought I was exaggerating. It wasn't until I saw a GP who knew me really well that I was sent to hospital. When I got there I was so dehydrated that the ketone levels in my urine were off the scale and I was told that if I didn't recieve treatment immediatly I would either lose the baby or there was a risk it could be brain damaged. I guess I'm just looking for reassurance that a 2nd pregnancy might not be a repeat performance so that I can convince my DP for another one.

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tutu100 · 18/11/2006 20:41

Lulumama, i take it from your comment that you weren't as sick with your 2nd child. Did you do anything different, or was it just luck?

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lulumama · 18/11/2006 20:42

as you have had it once, is not your GP going to be a bit more receptive this time to the idea it is more than morning sickness?

will your DS be at a nursery or a playgroup at all?

how old is he?

KBear · 18/11/2006 20:49

My friend had this with all three pregnancies - she is wonder woman in my eyes, esp to go in for a third child. She spent many weeks in hosp dehydrated etc but she says it was all worth it! Good luck and hope you don't get it second time around.

Blondie79 · 18/11/2006 20:50

Hi tutu - I had terrible sickness and it reached the point that my midwife said that I was on the verge of being hospitalised. Anyway I've now had my second and it was nowhere near as bad. But I did find something that really worked for me which was spatone added to orange cordial. Oh and a can of coke first thing in the morning.

flopflip · 18/11/2006 20:53

I don't think there is anything you can do to prevent it from starting, if it's your lot, so be it. The best thing to remember is not to get dehydrated and to go to hospital when you are. But, working in A&E I have come accross people who never get it with the second etc, it doesn't always follow that you will. And, you won't find out until you try, so good luck.

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tutu100 · 18/11/2006 21:51

Thanks for all your comments My ds is 17 months. Would probably not start trying until at least after Christmas so that ds would be 2 by the time the baby was born. He isn't in nursery as I am a sahm. My dp is a teacher so I could try and time it so that when I became pregnant the patch that I was worst during last time (when I really felt horrendous!)(6-14) weeks was covered by some of the six weeks holiday. Thanks for all your comments. I guess that we will really just have to bite the bullet if we want another baby. The main thing from stopping my dp from saying yes is that he is just so worried that I will have to feel that ill again. I think I would cope better if it happened again though as I'd kind of know what to expect. Also I certainly wouldn't let any dr tell me that that amount of sickness is normal. And if someone can go through 3 pregnancies with HG I should certainly be able to manage 2.

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Kif · 19/11/2006 21:58

I was hospitalised twice with Dd1 - months of throwing up all the time .

Ds - moderate nausea no vomiting. Dif pregnancy all round.

One thing that changed was that with Dd I was attempting to commute to work (bus and tube). Ds - I moved to be walking distance and didn't go anywhere near transport.

Was poised to take assertive action earlier with 2nd pg - think first time I didn't shout for help loud enough soon enough;

imaginaryfriend · 19/11/2006 22:09

I really feel for you. I was so unwell when pregnant with dd that I haven't been able to face the thought of getting pregnant again. Like you I was in and out of hospital and I've no idea how I'd manage to be a mother and feel like that, even though i know other people must have dealt with it. I only got by last time by being able to lie still on the bed and try to sip fluids throughout the day. Any kind of movement, smell, anything really, had me throwing up everything in my stomach. I was sick day and night. i'd wake in the night, roll over, throw up. Really horrible. I feel selfish that i can't face pregnancy again but I really can't. It went on for 5 months for me, then I had 2 much better months, then it returned for the last 6 weeks and I was in hospital again.

Heathcliffscathy · 19/11/2006 22:12

my mum had it with me, but not with my younger sister.

poor you!

hopefully you wouldn't have it again.

macneil · 19/11/2006 22:20

Just two more weeks of puking before I give birth, and the throwing up is as bad now as it ever was - I've thrown up four times today, and it's 2pm in Canada. I feel like I've been punched repeatedly in the stomach. From my point of view, right now, I can't imagine it being worth it, but it makes me feel very happy to read people saying it will be. All I hear from people around me is how tired I'll be, and how I'll never be able to have my life back or do anything else I like ever again - this is from friends with babies, who say it in a gleeful way. Why do friends with babies say that? Like we first time pregnant women aren't worried enough, they have to say, 'Of course - ha ha! - this is the end of any pleasure you'll ever have ever again! bwah ha ha ha haaaaaaaa!'

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tutu100 · 19/11/2006 23:10

Macneil, just to let you know after my son was born it was incredible. The nausea stopped immediatly and I felt absolutely fantastic pretty much straight away. So good luck to you with your new baby. And honestly as I said before if I had to go through it all again every wretch was worth it when you hold your baby. However I'm hoping it won't be as bad 2nd time around.

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imaginaryfriend · 20/11/2006 09:39

macneil, I remember that feeling so well. That's what's put me off getting pregnant again. But like tutu says, the moment, literally, that I gave birth it disappeared. It was a miracle. I never forgot it though. And babyhood was nothing like everybody negative warned it, it was a doddle, a welcome rest from work, just fantastic. My life opened out rather than closed. Perhaps that's a positive outcome from having such a lousy pregnancy!

Booboobedoo · 20/11/2006 19:11

Macneil: I've had lots of those comments as well. It must just be schadenfrade (sp?), as it's too late to do anything about it! It's hardly constructive advice, is it?

I think the people who say things like that have never had Hyperemesis.

As far as I'm concerned, not being sick any more and having my baby has got to be better than this.

rainbowgirl · 20/11/2006 19:46

i've had really bad ms with this pregnancy but with my first pregnancy i was fine. i think it depends on a multitude of things including the baby him/herself, each pregnancy is usually different...

re. helpful comments from mums macneil i genuinely think people are probably just trying to warn you that the experience doesn't end when you give birth, it begins! sorry if that's not too helpful. best of luck xx

macneil · 20/11/2006 20:11

Heh, thanks for the reassurances and repeated warnings! I'm sure it is very hard work and very nice and fun too. tutu, give in to your broodiness, you are obviously a fabulous mum.

snugglebumnappies · 23/11/2006 20:15

Hi Tutu, normal morning sickness with DS, DD was 10 years later and was a twin preg but had a missed misc at 10 weeks with one twin, god damn awful hyperemisis to the point where I was suicidal and asking for a TOP, giving myself IM injections of antiemetics to avoid hospitalization as my DS is autistic and would not have coped with his mum not being around, and seeing a CPN to prevent hospitalization to a psych unit, literally had to be locked in the hous as I threatened to throw myself under the next bus! Can laugh about it now but at the tim DH was as much use as a choc teapot and my marriage was on the rocks as he wouldn't listen to my pleas for support for a TOP. This time I had what my GP classed as hyperemisis, vomiting 5-8 times a day, but managed to keep fluids down and got through it much better, maybe because I was prepared for something much worse. I really don't think you can predict what is going to happen but need to make sure you have very supportive family around for the times when you can't get off the bathroon floor. Good luck, xx

thebecster · 24/11/2006 17:42

Tutu - Like you, I had HG with DS, but I know I want another one day (not yet, DS is just 5 months!). But my partner says 'Never again'. I'm just hoping he forgets how bad it was over time... Or that it's better next time. I think your doctors will be more inclined to believe you if you've had HG before, if you do get it again. Reassuring to know that not everyone gets it with 2nd PG...

Macneil: those mums did NOT have HG! I had it, and life gets MUCH better when the baby is born. Night feeds are a doddle compared with vomiting blood all night, and OK I don't have much 'time to myself' since DS born, but all my time when PG was spent either vomiting or crying. The day DS was born I didn't throw up for the first time since being 5 wks PG and it was like a miracle...

nannynickers · 28/11/2006 23:20

Thanks lulumama!

I posted this on another thread but seems more appropriate here!:

I was hospitalised with HG in my 1st pregnancy with DD, she is now a year old and DH & I are thinking that we would like to try for another LO next year.

I have looked on numerous websites and have only found negative information on HG and how sufferers have a 75% chance of it returning with vengance during any subsequent pregnancies.

This is making me feel sceptical about trying again as I don't want DD to suffer any kind of anxiety about my health.

There must be people with positive stories to tell of how the coped with HG & LO, please let me know your experiences and tips I would LOVE to hear them!

nannynickers · 28/11/2006 23:26

Blooming Awful advises:

*Take vitamin B6 and/or zinc and/or ginger supplements - you don't have to wait until you're feeling ill.

*Make sure that you're in peak health and eating a good diet without too much fat (high fat intake increases the risk of HG).

*If you're very slim, you could consider adding a little extra weight.

*If you can afford it, go to a registered, qualified alternative medicine practitioner and discuss your general health and your worries about the pregnancy. If you have already given the practitioner your history before falling pregnant s/he will be able to help you more quickly in an emergency and probably even over the phone in the case of a homeopath. This is particulary useful if you know that you're unlikely to be prescribed drugs by your GP or if the drugs will only be allowed once you're past a certain number of weeks.

paddyclamp · 29/11/2006 11:16

I HATE these people who go on about how awful life with a baby is. When you have a newborn they say, "Wait till he's crawling!"Then when you get pg with #2 you get "oh you'll have your work cut out".

What a crock! I have 2 kids, I didn't have HG, but i can honestly say that life with a baby, and life with a baby and a toddler is better than being pregnant!

Why do people say such crap?! When they say it to me i just tell them that i wouldn't change a thing. And that's the truth!

Piffle · 29/11/2006 11:20

I had HG with dd, very bad until 26 weeks then down to 2-3 x a day
This time I was so prepared for it again
I had the morningwell cd, ginger, homeopathic remedies, ate carefully.
Had a few bad days between 8-10 wks, then nothing
Am
Had fully expected it.
But you do forget and you do get over it. I know some people cannot bear to go through it again.
If you have a good husband who can care for other children and cook, maybe come home a little earlier and family support, then you are well placed to cope.
Honestly

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