Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

any I am really astonished you weren't admitted - what did the doctor say? Didn't they check your urine? (flaps and clucks*.
lilac That all sounds truly horrendous - particularly the smelly parrot episode. I think you were ridiculously brave to soldier on for so long. I just don't know how people do, unless they have a loo about two feet away...
zippys Great advice on sick notes - I'm out of touch with ssp etc, unfortunately.
penguin The way n which Hyperemesis is diagonoized seems very haphazard; there's no way, feeling as bad as you have and with it coming back again (though hopefully not full force) in the third tri, which is typical of bad cases, that you are any sort of a fraud. Rest as much as you can.
Back soon...

Lucinda He did indeed, took a sample, tested and told me there were a few ketones but he wanted to try me on cyclizine before sending me to hospital. He said if no better in 24-48 hours book another emergency appointment and they would send me for rehydration.

any I am not medically trained, of course, but really, from the sound of the urine, I'm willing to bet that 'a few ketones' is an underestimate.
How are the liquids staying down today? If you ate some ham, that should help with the ketones but you still sound very dehydrated. Do you find juice of tinned fruit or jelly sooothing? Or the famous ice lollies. I so hope cyclazine helps.

Thanks hun, I am managing better today. Half a small bottle of lucozade down already, and I have some jelly setting in the fridge to try. Had half an ice lolly but it was a bit too strong so had to chuck the rest bit better than nothing.

Oh wow, jelly is much better than I thought it would be. I set it so it's still very wobbly and it's a similar feeling to drinking, very relieving! Amazing what makes you happy these days!

Any It's terrible, isn't it, as you say, how retaining fluids is so blissful.
I used to put tinned fruit in the jelly, too, but that doesn't work for everyone.

Oh the thought of tinned fruit for me is stomach turning! In fact all fruit and veg (typical!) Will stick with the jelly for now it's working a treat. Although the cyclizine might be helping already? Definitely made me drowsy!

Penguin you're absolutely right about baby coming first. People do judge but they have no idea what it's like coping with this. In my experience the only people who truly understand what it's like are the ones on this thread. There's so much pressure on pregnant women to soldier on at work, I feel guilty too, still feel I ought to try and go back but realistically know I wouldn't manage it right now. I'm due mid-Sept so can start ML beginning of July at earliest.
Re HG diagnosis, I imagine many slip through net as some GPs seem clueless. My old GP saw me 3x for severe sickness and brushed it off as normal (without ever checking my urine!) his reasoning was 'you're keeping some fluids down so you'll be fine, it will clear up at 12 weeks'. I only got the HG diagnosis when admitted via A&E with dehydration and saw Obs&Gynae consultant. If i'd managed to avoid severe dehydration (as many do) the HG could have been missed. My new GP is better but still not well-informed about HG. Hope the metoclopamide's helping and you start to feel better soon!

Hi Zippys, did the GTT go ok?

Amy that's good you're keeping jelly and Cyclizine down. Try to sleep through worst of it if you can. On very bad days i stay in bed with a bucket.

Thanks lilac :)

As if HG by itself wasn't bad enough, I have managed to catch a cold. The coughing and sore throat aggravate the nausea and vomiting. Trying to stay positive, but feeling pretty hopeless at the moment.

Amy - I'm glad you're keeping more down, there's no negative effects to your body by getting extra fluids via IV. Except the bruised arm.

Penguin - just because a GP hasn't said you have HG, doesn't mean you don't have it. From your symptoms, I would say you definitely have it, even worse than I do and I have been diagnosed. You are not a fraud.

Gotta go cough up phlegm and potentially my breakfast too

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/2092612-Hyperemesis-Support?watched=1
i found some ref to GTT's on pages 15 & 28 of the thread- I am sure were have had a similar discussion more recently but sorry not had time to trawl any further at the moment.

wonders how everyone on that thread are doing now lucinda & meerka

Morning. Thanks for the links Elizabethsmum. Gtt is in an hour, feel very sick at the thought of it but hey ho I can only go and be sick! Just about to download a book to my phone to read whilst waiting.

Hope everyone feels as well as they can this morning.

zippys I hope the gt test went as well as something so horrible could?
Mellys That (lack of) proper medical care sounds awful.
Penguin and any I hope not too bad today.
lilac I'm still astounded at how you managed to battle on for so long at work - and dismayed at the horror of the odiferous parrot story...
Waves to Meerka and elizabethsum and hopes everyone not feeling too bad today...

Long rant warning sorry, just need to vent...

I'm so annoyed with DH!! Yesterday his parcel ended up with NDN (I was asleep when it was delivered, NDN was out when I knocked for it later). When DH got home from work I reminded him to collect it from NDN... he didn't. This morning i reminded him again... and he said no, as it would be 'good' for me to get it as I haven't left house for a week!! I pointed out i've been vomiting round clock last 3 days, feel terrible, want to stay indoors in my pjs and sleep. I do not want to get dressed OR chat to neighbour on doorstep. We had big row, DH fetched parcel, then he stormed off to work in a mood without saying goodbye!!
He's also annoyed because I shouted at him for dumping large tray of dirty plates on kitchen table last night (he'd stayed up late with tray of snacks, i'd cleaned table before I went to bed so it was ready for breakfast). I don't expect him to load dishwasher but I do expect him to scrape bits of half-eaten fruit, banana skins, sticky nutshells etc into bin then put plates in sink, rather than leave it all on table for me to deal with soon as I wake up. Or he could at least leave tray out of way upstairs so i don't have to deal with it before breakfast!
I know i've been moody and snappy with him last few days and he's also upset at lack of sex. I appreciate he's stressed and worried because sickness is worse, but i feel like he's blaming me for it and saying it's worse because I'm not eating enough (I am eating, just not keeping it down). We had another row last night because i threw up everything i tried to eat and he kept nagging me to eat more. I explained it would just be vommed up again, that i know my body, that I just wanted to go to bed and sleep. Baby is growing fine (measuring big for his dates on 20-week scan) but DH is still worried i'm depriving baby of nutrients if I don't replace food after vomiting!!
Don't know what to do other than hope he comes home in better mood. Every time I have a bad patch with HG, he kicks off like this, despite reading all sorts of HG literature that tells him not to put pressure on me or guilt-trip over nutrition! Maybe i'm overreacting or being petty, I'm just so sick of feeling sick all the time and have little patience left, the parcel thing was last straw because it was so easy for him to get it without making it into an 'activity' for me!! I can't sleep much because i feel sick, have a splitting headache most days, and if i eat more than few mouthfuls i vomit. Did anyone else go through a bad patch like this at 23-24weeks? I was doing ok up until a few days ago Maybe it's baby growing and putting pressure on organs? I feel like I have no space for food or drink!

Lilac Just wanted to symapthize, though I didn't suffer for anything like as long as you. These OH's have an overwhelming need to 'fix' things, including women with Hyperemesis. The well meaning officiousness is infuriating. He's obviously distraught himself, and it's coming out as anger.
No wonder you are fed up, though. I hope you aren't forcing yourself to do too much round the house.

Aww lilac you must be so frustrated! Maybe it's a man thing! I asked my OH this morning if he would bring me up a glass of lucozade and my tablets and he told me he thought it would be a good idea if I went down myself and made me some breakfast while there "because staying in bed won't make you any better."

Well no wonder I was feeling rubbish last week, went to the docs earlier to discuss the bloods I had taken last week and it turns out im anaemic so been put on iron tablets, hopefully they will give me a boost! Still only 3 more days left at work for me now!

lilac I wouldn't wish HG on anyone but I always thought it would be good if DH could experience it for a day or 2 just to understand what it's like. He would try and make me eat too but couldn't understand that I just couldn't!

lilac - it all sounds horribly familiar...dh was better in my second pg as he was a bit more 'resigned' to it all and just got on with it- plus we had dd1 who he had to look after while I was in hospital and ferry about etc so it sort of took his mind off it second time round. it is a frustrating condition at the best of times and so difficult to understand if you haven't been through it. I used to scream at dh- 'how would you feel if you woke up with the world's worst hangover for months on end.....' grrr. I also had quite a bad relapse in first pg at 23 weeks and ended up back in hospital. virtual hugs.

waves to everyone- back later...

zippys hope you managed to survive gtt?

Hope iron tablets help hello x

Thanks for support ladies

Lucinda you're right about him wanting to 'fix' everything. He gets frustrated when I don't follow his advice, while I get infuriated because it comes across as patronising.
I feel like he wants to micro-manage the time I'm off sick... his suggestions of activities would be great if I was on holiday and bored, but when feeling so ill I just want to get through each day without structure.

Amy hope your OH brought the lucozade to you in bed in the end! That's just the sort of thing mine would say, about 'feeling better if you get up' grrr.

Hello glad you've got some iron tablets, hope they help!

Elizabethsmum how long did your relapse at 23 weeks last? I was gradually improving up until last week, then had a few rougher days with more vomiting and nausea, now I'm back to vomiting almost everything and struggling with liquids! It's a shock to feel this ill again. Thank goodness for ice-lollies!!

lilac he did! I gave him a look and told him to do his research, he came back up 5 mins later with lucozade, tablets and some melon haha. Although he's back in my bad books for making THEE smelliest pasta ever it actually smells of puke, gah!

lilac hard to remember exactly as it was about 10 yrs ago but I think I had approx a week off work around that time so it must have been fairly short-lived. I was never 'right' through the whole of that pg but seem to remember weeks 16-24 being fairly rough. I took myself to the go fairly sharpish at 23 weeks though and got admitted as I had ended up in a real state at about 19 weeks and remember not wanting to get into that state again. was literally admitted for an afternoon of rehydration at 23 weeks and then improved to a manageable state after that.

*gp