Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Congratulations newshoes :)

hello that's lovely to hear. But not good about the infection hope you are feeling better soon!

Congrats on baby willow newshoes! Gorgeous name :-)

mellee I too told work before 5 weeks because of chemicals etc. Well the seniors needed to know so I could change tasks but I'm sure a lot of others must have guessed but didn't say anything directly to me! Can I ask what you do?

Sorry the drugs have stopped working for you Casablanca hope your doctor can give you something else.

Mrs welcome, sorry you're suffering though :-(

newshoes I missed your update! Congratulations

Congrats to you hello!
Thanks everyone xx

newshoes congratulations! Thanks for coming back and saying hi! I remember you having a really tough time a while back. so glad all is well.

hello glad you are on the mend. how lovely- glad hg and spd are now a distant memory!

welcome to those new to the thread, sorry to those having the dreaded relapses - hope they are short-lived. to those back at work, I know easier said than done but please try not to overdo it especially in this heat.

casa it really sounds like you need stronger meds- cyclizine is not strong enough for many of us at the start particularly if you are already dehydrated.

amy do you think it's worth getting the ondansetron to have on stand-by any way ?

I have never liked cola so that wasn't something I ever considered trying but lightly flavoured carbonated drinks were best for me- elderflower presse especially. fizz briefly counteracts nausea and also it stops you gulping which is highly tempting but totally counterproductive with hg as stomach can't cope with large volumes - and by large it seems anything more than a few mils at a time. sucking ice cubes and ice ollies (orange calipos) all the way- particularly when warm, is often a more tolerable option than trying to drink as well Ime.

Hey it was really nice to read the posts from people further along this journey... eallison looking forward to when my baby starts having a little dance in my tummy!! And congratulations to newshoes! One day soon for all of us there will be an end to hugging the toilet/sick bowl and a new baby to look after!!!
Going to Drs today, have similar dilemma to you chopsface. Bit better and want to get back to work but want doc to put reduced hours on the sick note to begin with if poss. Still not 100% but to be honest bored and getting broke at home and my boss said I could work from home for the first bit if it helps. So just have to try not to nod off over the keyboard and sound professional on the phone!!
Hope all goes well with your Drs appt and they support you in the right way re work chopsface
Hello to everyone else too xx

hello all. lovely to hear from those already holding their babies, and yes that each day that passes is a day closer to that (fingers crossed). I am another one going to try to speak to the doctor today. I know really that I should try and drag myself there but staying very very still is the only thing stopping me from vomming again and I cannot face the walk to the surgery then waiting the obligatory half an hour before seeing doc, so getting a phone call later instead.

Also upset that I cannot speak to my lovely usual doc who is away for the whole week (THE WHOLE WEEK?!) I know, even doctors need holidays right. So I have to speak to the grumpy one and I know she will resist giving me ondansetron to try. I have tried everything else though and although the phenargan may be keeping the pukes down to two a day (I know I am really lucky to have that), the all day all consuming nausea is not helping with a)looking after my dd b)having a job and c)not hating every waking minute. Moan Moan Moan. I also want to be signed off work for a couple of weeks but again I think I might be asking too much, especially from the grumpy doctor. Wish me luck...... and good luck to all the others who are trying to get different meds today

mirabal when I managed to drag myself to Dr surgery I used to make a point of waiting outside in fresh air (just asked reception to let me know when it was my turn), luckily they were very nice about it- as I couldn't face stuffy waiting room/public vomming disgrace :(. good luck and hope you managed to get ondansetron - carefully timed vomming in front of grump Dr may do the trick

Mellee - thanks for message. I was told it shouldn't have affected baby but to be honest I only had 5 mins with a Dr in the 20 hours I was kept in so there was hardly any chance to get any information. The rest of the time it was health care assistants and nurses, who kep saying I would need to speak to doctor!

I don't get a midwife appointment here until 10 weeks and I feel a bit lost in the system at the moment. My GP has been on holiday for the whole of June too! I don't know if I'm being really unreasonable but just feeling a bit neglected, especially since I previously had a miscarriage which resulted in quite bad anxiety and depression. Meh.

Lovely to hear from people with babies and those feeling kicks. So looking forward to feeling pregnant, not just sick!

mirabal good luck at the doctors! Hope they are understanding and able to sign you off work and also try the ondanstron.

Also good luck to daffodil for the doctors too. I don't know what line of work you are in but I would certainly take the offer of working from home! Unfortunately its not something I am able to do but would have been a lifesaver for me!

elizabeths I did consider that, however I only live 5 minutes from the doctors with a pharmacy attached. So if I do find I am desperate for it, I am able to phone the doctors for the prescription so just a matter of picking it up. Very lucky in that respect!

mellee only 54 days! I am envious hope your day back at work wasn't too bad :)

With regards to food and drink I find that it greatly varies week to week. During my darkest times I could only have orange lucozade. Now the thought makes me sick! I have days where I can only stomach dr pepper, some days where it has to be decaff iced coffees, and some days fizzy water. Throughout this though I am still unable to drink tea or coffee (hot) and still water. Same with food although that seems to vary daily! I am unable to do weekly shops now as I don't want anything I have bought later in the week. So I just have to go out or send OH out for whatever I feel like when I do get hungry.

Have taken one of my Phenergan/promethazine tablets when I got to work and boy do they make you drowsy! My eyelids are drooping I could literally fall asleep at my desk!! I'm hoping if I take one tonight I won't need to have another tomorrow morning? Probably wishful thinking but will see how I go!

Hi everyone have never posted here before but have read all your posts found it a great help and support
I'm 17 weeks and it's been nearly 2 weeks since I last vomited! Still feel nauseous especially when I'm tired and still get the metallic taste in my mouth a odd time but I'm back enjoying food again and have stopped gagging at everything

I really thought this day would never come so everybody stay strong and remember it doesn't last forever, things really peaked for me at week 7 to week 9 I literally could not get out of bed, when I had to go to toilet I would bring my basin with me and be retching into it as I was peeing (sorry I know tmi) but I found this thread to be of great support and that I was not the only person in the world going through it.

Just wondering did anyone else ever feel that some people didn't take you serious when you were so sick? I don't know how many times I have been asked by a work colleague was I sure I didn't have some stomach bug when I was off work sick!! Even though I have a sick note from my doctor saying I had Hg!! Luckily I have 2 close friends who have gone through it and were a great support helping me with my dd, my dh was great too but I don't think he fully realised how bad I felt being a man!! But I have been hurt by comments from friends asking me was it normal to be that sick and that it couldn't be right for the baby etc ( one of these friends never had a bit of nasuea when pregnant with her daughter)or they thought it was called morning sickness how was I sick all day (it really used to peak for me in the afternoon and evening) basically I get the feeling off some people that i wasn't that bad amd i should have got up and got on with it!! Any one else find this or experience this?

I had trouble telling my boss that I'd like to come back to work mornings only for a time. Being off with 'morning' sickness must mean I would want to work afternoons surely? I'm actually much better mornings and at my worst breakfast was the only meal I could keep down! Evenings I'm the worst going downhill from mid afternoon. So yes, Dr spoken to, boss spoken to, I'm going back to work tomorrow mornings only for 2 weeks I initially.

Amy I know the feeling with food/drink aversion! I had things I would nibble on when I felt nauseous, but now I can't even look at them as I now associate them with nausea! Dh despairs of me changing my mind all the time and leaving half opened things to go off after he lovingly went out to buy for me!

Goodness,the thread has been busy.
Welcome to Mrsm14 and Goldenrose Mrsm14 I am so sorry you weren't treated sensitively, a mc makes you nervous and spoils things even if you weren't ill. It's such a shame you didn't get reassurance; while not medically qualified, I know from all I've heard you will suffer from the Hyperemesis, as long as you don't get too dehydrated the baby won't; women were designed to have babies in times of famine, after all,when you think of it. Grotesquely funny that you were given a diagnoses of 'normal morning sickness' and then admitted for fluids for Hyperemesis. That used to be the defining thing, I think, having been admitted for fluids. Cyber pats on offer for having suffered such a horrible, lonely time. Unfortunately, people can be incredibly dismissive and not understand that it is different from ordinary MS and that you are not exaggerating the level of sickness.
Goldenrose I am so glad you have found the thread helpful and it's so nice of you to post encouragement to others at the worst stage.
Newshoesplease Congratulations on baby Willow. It's so nice of you to come back with this happy news. Am I right in thinking you had some alarming bleeding during your pregnancy or have I got it wrong? Great that you had an easy labour; you certainly deserved it.
Hello Sorry to hear about a nasty infection. I suppose probably partly to do with you being run down by Hyperemesis. Get better soon and do keep us updated.
Good luck to all going to the dr's for new meds. Casablanca Mirabel and everyone.
Daffodil Melleebacca and all those arranging to go back to work, I so agree with others, do try and get a staggered return, this illness does wear you down and there's no gain to the workplaces in your overdoing it and having a relapse.
Chopsface It is awkward that people have this rigid view that sickness in pregnancy happens only in the morning, though to be sure that morning bile run is the worst, the fatigue later in the day can make it really bad.
Laura Lol about Chipsface.
Great advice from Mereka and elizabethsmum.
Someone said they'd found the frozen watermelon tip really helpful; sorry, I can't read my awful handwriting to make out who .. On another thread a woman recommended putting it in a juicer and freezing it into cubes.
Apologies that my writing is so bad I've overlooked people. Sympathies to all suffering. You will get there...

thanks Lucinda

So, just had my call and have not managed to get Ondansetron from grumpy doc. She said that whatever she was reading said there was no indication it was safe in pregnancy. I said it was completely safe and that there are many many women out there taking it for pregnancy. I also told her to look at the pregnancy sickness website but she did not want to hear it.

She has given me Stementil to try alongside the phenargan. I'm willing to give it a try especially if it can work for me and not go down the constipation road but feeling a bit fobbed off.

She was happy to give me two week sick note though which is brilliant.

Hope others do better than me......

Just dropping in to say sorry for absence. Been getting ready for a work trip abroad; about to head off for 10 days. Welcome to all the newbies, and sorry you're suffering with this hideous condition. I've been thinking of everyone suffering in the warm weather and hope the heat not making it too much worse. It's hard enough trying to stay hydrated with HG; boiling hot weather not too helpful.
Will pop back on as and when I can. Keen though I am to start baby 3, I hope I don't get the BFP while abroad, as will be anxious about any impending sickness. Hopefully will be fine.

Sorry your go was so uninformed regarding ondansetron mirabal however good news about the two week sick note at least- it certainly takes the pressure off a bit.
no experience of pherganon (?sp) but I did have some relief from symptoms with stemetil in my first hg preg (back in the dark ages 10 yrs ago when no one had heard of ondansetron for hg!)

ps hope trip goes ok motherofpearl (crosses fingers for no symptoms while you are away.)

goldenrose unfortunately I have experienced that and still get comments to this day. I took nearly a full month off work during my worst time and it was clear they thought I was over exaggerating. In fact my boss (very insensitive at the best of times) asked me the other day why was I still being sick? In a tone as if I was doing it on purpose! And told me surely it would have stopped after the first trimester like everyone else. Grr. I did have a good come back although I can't think now what I said! Baby brain! It shut him up though :)

chops that sounds so familiar! My OH was devastated when he came home with some crisps the other day that I ate a lot of a few weeks ago, but I couldn't stomach them. Bless him, he tried!

mirabal Sorry you didn't get the ondansetron :( Hope these tablets together help your sickness and nausea. And great you have got some time off work.

MoP Hope everything works out with your trip. Will you be testing while you are away?

goldenrose I didn't have anyone say anything to my face but I felt pressure to return to work and an expectancy I would get better after my initial doctors note. I also returned to the gossips which upset me greatly :( I had exactly the same about working mornings 'surely it's morning sickness' argh!!!

Thanks ElizMum and Amy. I'll be able to do a test last day or two of trip, ie end of next week. It's a strange time, feels like Im waiting for something and nothing. Odd.
Argh, Amy, I do sympathise with you and others about enduring people's thoughtless remarks. When I was suffering, at every midwife appt she'd ask how I was getting on, to which my reply was always: 'still being sick every day'. Her answer was always, 'Still?! Surely not at xx weeks?' in a tone that suggested she really thought I was making it up!

I let my boss know that I'd been in hospital over the weekend and I was unlikely to get back to work this week as it might take a bit of time to get on top of this and she texted hopefully see you before Friday. sure she means well but feels like she totally hasn't got how awful I feel and just makes me feel guilty about needing some time off.

Thank you meerka Sainsbury's suggested I buy nappy bags to vom in.

elizabethsmum I'm bang on 6 weeks today and after a week of nausea I threw up my cyclizine, folic acid and berrocca. Considering the amount of nausea I've had I think I lasted pretty well - but poor DS had to watch and it made him cry :( DP's holiday can't come soon enough!! Long haul sounds awful! Thankfully just 2 hours for us.

chops the front rows are business class, I think that would be cheeky but as we pre select our tickets I'll get DP to pick the back. I could see if we could upgrade for free... What a fab bday present for you?! I hope all is going well!

I hope everyone is coping well - and prepared for this heatwave coming this week! I assume at least one of us will faint.

I'm glad I don't have to put up with nasty employers - but then again being a stay at home mum has no sick leave!!

I've been invited twice to London this week - one time for evening drinks, the second time for our toddlers to meet in a park and play. The latter friend knows, as I warned her I might not be up for it. But would still love to make both events.. unsure if I'm being too optimistic.. I also have to drive baby and luggage to Heathrow (1hr30m away) on Friday where I shall meet DP. That is going to be a challenge :(

Yep lucinda I had a large bleed (clots, the lot) on the morning of my 12week scan and feared the worst!! Then once the hg lifted a bit the spd set in with avengance..I just can't believe she's here, and so beautiful!

I spent the last 12ish weeks of my pregnancy without dairy and it seemed to help with my vomiting (&the rest... Oh the glamour)

newshoes she really is very beautiful I don't think you're biased

mygreeneyed I'm almost same dates as you - 6 + today. Your plans sound exciting but terrifying but you are the best judge as to what you can do - good luck x

that should have been 6 + 3 !!