Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

Noroom I'm so sorry to hear of your emergency admission. Glad to hear you are being looked after well. Hope you and LO are doing OK

They did finally do a scan Lucinda! Even after all of that bleeding out, I still have a subchorionic haemorrhage that "extends from fundus to os" and looks pretty fluid rather than a haematoma. Thankfully the haemorrhage is currently covering the anterior wall of my uterus whilst the placenta is posterior and baby is growing well. So... I feel like a ticking time bomb! I've been told that all that blood has to come out at some point. There are risks to the baby if it interferes with the placenta or it could rupture my membranes. If that doesn't happen, then the main risk is a pre- term delivery (well that's one way of avoiding another shoulder dystocia).

No room that sounds horrendous. I have no idea what all the medical jargon means but I find it hard enough to cope with hg let alone everything else you have on your plate. Sending you strength. X

My goodness, you're a brave woman, NoRoom handling this anxiety as well as the sickness. Can only send you hugs and best wishes.
xx

noroom how frightening - hope you are being well looked after

is cyclzine suppose to make you drowsy? Im sleeping for 2-3 hours after every dose.

How scary no room!
Willowhouse I'm pretty sure drowsiness is a side effect of cyclizine :/

Drowsiness is definitely a side effect of cyclizine.

noroom how are you now? I hope you're feeling better... it must have been terrifying. Thinking of you.

Hello to newcomers. Congrats and commiserations. This thread is lovely and supportive. It doesn't feel like it but the nausea and vomitting does come to an end.

Completely agree that the nausea can be far worse than the vomitting, vile as that is.

kali you're the only person who's ever said that root ginger -can- actually help a tiny bit! interesting about turmeric too.

How are we all tonight? I'm feeling baby kick lots now which is making me feel better. I'm almost 23 weeks and not "showing" very much, but I know it's because I've lost lots of weight through sickness. I will get a bump soon enough, and no doubt be extremely uncomfortable and wondering why I wanted to be huge

NoRoom you poor thing. Hope you're holding up. Sending strength.

I'm feeling rough. Really rough. And no energy. Another weekend ruined.

I'm going to take a few days off next week. I've put any energy I have had going into work and not letting anything slip. Then I pay for it on the weekends.

I will try and get to the GP on Monday. Are any of these drugs just for tackling nausea? I don't think Metroclopramide is right if it's to stop vomiting. Bar retching up bile first thing in the morning I'm not being sick. I'm managing it by basically hardly eating. I need something to stop the sick feeling.

Sending well wishes to everyone.

I had an awful day - was either in a cyclzine induced sleep or crying.

Then i got takeaway for the kids as the thought of cooking was making me retch and i have discovered that poppadons dipped in mango chutney stop nausea for a good 30 mins, taste like food and (crucially) don't reappear. Its amazing how odd this HG is. I can eat apples, salt and vinegar sticks, plain noodles and poppadoms. Anyone see a pattern?

willow I discovered poppadoms this week too! Also got hula hoops and salt and vinegar swirls. Popcorn (salted) worked for a while too but now I'm off that.

Caitmous is it worth getting signed off sick? Rest helps me infinitely. I know I will have to go back soon but I would be in so much worse condition had I worked throughout.

I had a good day today. I am doing a pre-planned jinx here because mother has dd overnight and she won't be back until dinner time tomorrow so if there is a time to get sick it's tomorrow! Anyway, the morning was iffy as usual and I had no appetite for lunch but I had a nap and woke up ok. So I rushed off to get supplies and cooked fajitas for dp and I and even had a desert! First time I have managed an adult portion of food in weeks, months actually. Obviously I feel like crap now but still, those precious hours where I almost felt normal were worth it!

Thinking of everyone and hope the suffering isn't too bad. X

I had some pom bears earlier-must try poppadoms I seem to be completely off sweet stuff. Very unlike me! I sometimes get desperate cravings so I'm going to try and seize them although it's only possible if dh is around!

I'm struggling to sleep because of the awful bile vomit nose burn.

noroom I hope they're taking good care of you in hospital. [Flowers]

I've found that work makes me so much worse ! Or maybe I just handle better on days off. I finally got signed off night shifts which is a relief!!
Bile burn sucks I had that so bad at one point it hurt to swallow fluid sigh

Work deffo makes it worse!! I'm sure that's been the main reason I'm not as bad this time as I literally do nothing. Today I did some PTA stuff, got rid of rubbish in my bedroom, went with OH and daughter to watch them ice skate, McD, cuppa at BIL.....was asleep by 5pm!! Woke up half 8 and now I can't sleep.

Ondanestron has helped massively with my nausea but not taken away completely. In fact I'm gonna have one now as OH off fishing 6am and I'm gonna have to actually move to get my child breakfast, dressed, out the door to her nan's then to a friends baby shower. That seems like a far too busy day!! I'm so terrified of doing too much then being sick! Managed not to puke today - yay. Bit of a fraud being on here really!! But I know I'm only this good because I had a consultant plan, Pre emptive meds and literally no stress at all about anything.

I've become a bloody fussy eater though!!! Gone off the taste/smell of so much!! Salted stuff is deffo way forward

Thinking of you all x

Ovaltine you're not a fraud being on here! In starting to manage to eat bits because of ondansetron and cyclizine alternated every couple of hrs. Strangely I'm really enjoying very sweet food and very salty food, neither of which is like me! I normal hate salty food and I'm not into sweet food, I'm usually more of a savoury person. I hated sweet food when pg with ds!

Morning everyone. Not posted for a couple of days as couldn't face it. Well I went back to the docs Thursday and Friday and got signed off work for another 2 weeks. I've also been prescribed Ondanestron but I'm petrified of taking it. The doctor was happy to prescribe them but in her book thingy it said they were only to be prescribed if the benefit to the mother outweighed the risk to the baby which had scared me so much.
But cyclizine isn't working and I cant carry on like this

I'm 7 weeks Tomoro and the thought of carrying on like this is terrifying, I've lost 1/2 stone in the last week alone!

I guess I just need some reassurance about Ondanestron If possible?

Hi all, Noroom sorry to hear you are in hospital and going through such a stressful time, I hope they are taking good care of you x

Hello glad you have been given Ondanestron, as far as I am aware it is safe, it is one of the standard drugs in hospital for HG and I have been given it several times during admissions. I think the disclaimer about only giving it in those circumstances is used for a lot of drugs in pregnancy. If Meerka is about I think she is quite knowledgeable about it and has provided links to studies showing it is safe. The only thing is it is very constipating so you need to keep an eye on that.

I'm managing so much better now, I'm only taking ranitidine and cyclizine and I think I've finally turned a corner. About time at 35 weeks! Still getting a bit retchy but haven't vomited for quite a few days now so hoping it stays that way. It has definitely improved my mental state. I do have other late pregnancy niggles such as leg cramp and baby is still in awkward painful position. I've also caught whatever bug DS had, so sore throat, swollen glands etc but I can cope with all that as long as I'm not being sick anymore!

Hope everyone else has a better Sunday, hope you are feeling a bit better this morning Newshoes x

Thank you so much basgetti, I'm seriously contemplating getting sterilised after this pregnancy but not sure if that's a bit OTT!

This thread is wonderful xx

Hello Lots of women get sterilised after HG pregnancies. Meerka will be able to direct you to the study but essentially ondansetron has had the largest and most recent study conducted that shows that it does not increase risk of pregnancy complications nor adverse outcomes for the baby. It is probably the safest one to take with the lowest known risks but we're light years behind in the UK for prescribing it because we have the NHS rather than insurance based healthcare.

NoRoom How are things going with you? What an awful time.
Hellohellohowareyou Meerka certainly has a lot of information on he safety of Ondansetron - mainly the reason they are reluctant to prescribe it is the cost; the gp wouldn't have done so if he thought there was a risk - all the warnings seem to be due to the legal definitions of meds passed as 'safe' in pregnancy and n ot to do with any actual risk reported in large studies. Do as others say, stock up on aids to get bowels moving, though. Those jelly suppositiories from a chemists, used routinely in pregnancy in hospital but you probably have not to admit to being pregnant to get them over the counter, ironically like cyclezine, believe it or not, proved safe in pregnancy for many decades. but as Willow says, likely to make you woozy.
Blueberry It's fascinating how the showing varies - you cold tell with me by fifteen weeks, somehow the weight loss made it more obvious in my case - and others with a striking weight loss don't show at all...Glad about kicks. If you don't find they increase nausea, that's lovely.
MuddyLettuce I won't ask for a recipe for fsjitas on here; too mean.
Intersiting about poppadums everyone.
Ovaltine I am so glad meds are being effective, and don't be silly in feeling a fraud after last time!
Caitmous My goodness, I didn't realise you were still struggling into work; how on earth do you manage?
Waves to NewShoes and everyone; apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
xx

Oh, and there are known risks to the health of mother and baby if HG is not treated. Try and remember that it's hard to make a decision when you are dehydrated because you can get a bit confused. When you start to rehydrate, you'll find your brain gets much clearer.

Hellohello - please do not worry about taking Ondanestron. If you check the PSS website it has papers on there showing that there is no increased risk to the women who take them. I was recommended them by a hospital consultant and they really are amazing! Get some lactulose or movicol too cos they can make you constipated and when your digestion slows down it increases the nausea.