Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!prescribinginfosub

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

oh red, it sounds a horrible night.

You've got a lovely mix of preg hormones and the eternal, horrible strain of HG mentally as well as physically. Plus the sheer awfulnusee of a vomming session like that. It truly isn't suprising you went into meltdown

Really hope you are feeling a bit better this morning x

durham have you got the energy to call your manager on this stupid idea of peak-hour travelling? It sounds a real danger that you will crash. Is it posisble to write her a letter and copy it to Human Resources? You so don't need this crap ...

Morning everyone. My heart goes out to everyone - gettheredout that sounds horrendous. I hope you feel better for getting it all out.

durham I work in HR. Speak to your manager and explain why you can't travel in peak times and make sure that you say your doctor has advised this. I think you need to understand her reasons for wanting to change your hours. If there's a medical reason for you not working those hours, it's a bit silly on her part.
Agree - if you have Occ Health, you should really have been referred to them anyway before coming back (if you've been off a long time). Is there a compromise? If no Occ health, could you offer to let them have access to your GP to write to them for advice?

What has everyone done about work? I had my first day off yesterday and was going to go in today when I thought the cyclizine would be more in my blood but I was so sick last night and then awake at silly hours eating a biscuit that I just can't face it. TBH, i'd like to curl up and not have to deal with anyone.

I went on the cyclizine as I couldn't bear the other tablets dissolving in my mouth but I still don't think it's working. Have already lost 1/2 stone in week and half - it's miserable.

gettheredout I think it is normal to feel more vulnerable when you are pregnant, it is a kind of instinct, you know that you are in need of extra protection; HG escalates that hugely, in a way it makes the vulnerability of pregnancy, how much you need looking after, incredibly clear compared to most pregnancies. I think if in this state the person you are most relying on to protect you turns on you or lets you down, even if only temporarily, it feels completely devastating. I actually don't think this is unreasonable: presumably a woman with HG in a pre-modern environment would literally only have a chance of survival if she was constantly cared for, if there was someone to keep coaxing sips of water etc. So in a way your 'overreaction' is actually quite functional: it demonstrates to your DH how vulnerable you really are at the moment and how much you need him.

On a more pragmatic note, have you tested your ketones? Feeling totally desperate can also be a sign of ketosis. What drugs are you on and how far along are you?

&3rdbump* Welcome and and you were brave to go for it three times before, accident this time or not, so you're bound to cope well but how exhausting for you having to work at craft stuff for yourself. I'm glad the meds are helping. You must be organised to do that in the evenings with LO's.
GetTheRedOut I so agree with others about vulnerable feelings and I so agree that it's completely understandable. I'm glad OH is normally patient and I wish all OH's are - to be honest, a large amount are pretty hopeless at empathizing at all about this. Never worry about TMI on here; that sounds typical of the degrading experiences of this scourge.
DurhamRed The manager who's trying to get the agreement overturned sounds so sneaky - concern, indeed. If other people are about, it just seems ridiculous. I don't quite understand how she was able to get it challenged when there's a health reason. No wonder you feel stressed.
basgetti Best of luck. This is another piece of stress not needed.
Good advice from Dottydadoo muddylettuce Kalidasa Meerka FreeWee and others.
FreeWee and Willow It's provoking that people expect you to be happy when feeling truly dreadful. That hangover lasting for weeks example is excellent, and one I've used myself before, as many OH's make a hoo-ha about a hangover lasting ONE day...
Apologies to anyone rudely overlooked.
Back soon.
xx

Typing getting worse - that should be '3rdbump' and the message to GetTheREdOut should contain the words 'all OH's were' (the conditional, Lucinda, duh!).
I hope everyone's coping today and OH's are all being angelic.
xx

Thanks for the kind words everyone. It was so humiliating and degrading, I think that's why I got so hysterical after. I do think he already understood how vulnerable I am because he's always so attentive and caring but he must have just got really frustrated arriving home from work to no hot water, no idea how to turn it on, needing a shower etc.

I haven't tested my ketones, I was discharged from hospital on Friday so I didn't think they could be that high yet. It's so hard to stay hydrated, I find the iv drip is both the best and worst thing about hospital. I'm on Ondansetron, cyclizine, thiamine, ranitidine And another pill I can't remember the name of...

Hi all, hope you are feeling a bit better today GetTheRedOut x

Well this baby is coming out in 16 days! They are doing an ELCS at 38+4, she is in a bad position where my pelvis is empty so risk of cord prolapse so they don't want me to go into labour at all. Feeling excited, relieved and scared all at the same time!

Hope everyone doing okay xx

Congratulations Basgetti, the end is in sight! I hope the next 16 days passes quickly for you.

Has anyone had a non sick day? I seem to be much better today which has me really worried as have had 2 mc in last 12 months. I can't win!

basgetti lovely to hear .. the final stretch now. Exiting! :)

dotty isnt it funny .. we are so so pig sick of being nauseaous and vomming. Then when we -do- have a good day we suddenly worry that it's gone!

HG does fluctuate so much though. Many people find that they have one good day then it gets bad again, or sometimes one bad day after a run of good. it just varies so much ..

kali being preg has really been an eyeopener as to how humans cannot survive any more without each other. You just can't do it on your own, even if everything goes ok. collecting enough food for the future would be difficult in the last months; your mobility is so impaired too. And that's if it's an easy preg. We just aren't built to be alone ...

Thank you for your support everybody. I have a meeting tomorrow with her and my manager so hopefully I'll be able to stick to my agreed hours. My director told me today that he has absolutely no issues with my hours, however I'm just concerned how my manager will act in the meeting tomorrow.

Meeting with HR and my manager that was meant to say

Good luck for tomorrow Durham stick to your guns, if HR and director are fine with hours then I shouldn't imagine you will have any issues. Just seems a massive waste of everyone's time. gettheredout that must have been awful, if you're anything like me showing vulnerability is disconcerting at the least. That's what he is there for though, helping you when you are low. Basgetti that's excellent news, you have an end in sight. dotty I had the odd good day and always jinxed myself by announcing it on here! Don't do too much on those good days, keep the rest up.
I have agreed reduced hours with doctor and work, starting with 5 hours and working up to mu usual hours as symptoms allow. I am looking forward to a bit of normality but cautious. I do NOT want to end up back in bed with a bucket for company.

have you named your bucket? Ours was the Blue Bucket of Doom.

Bit of a stressful day today. Scan took a long time and in the end she said the baby was OK for growth (and very wriggly) but that I have too little amniotic fluid. Quite a surprise as when I was scanned three weeks ago I was right at the top of the chart for that! So I had to go up to the day assessment unit for monitoring and then wait around to see the doctor. The good news is that my cervix is closed and she didn't think my waters have gone, but on the down side I have to have yet another scan next week and if the volume is still low they'll start steroid injections to prepare for an early delivery. All sounds a bit scary! I also have to go in every few days to have the baby monitored which is easy for them to say but a total nightmare in practice given I am in a second floor flat, in a wheelchair, and only keeping a grip on the vomiting now by spending all day in bed! I think the best possible scenario now is that the scan next week is better and as a result they let me off the regular monitoring. So stressful. This has been such a nightmare pregnancy but I really don't want a premature baby on top of everything else . . .

Oh dear kali :( I really hope next week's scan goes better and that the baby is swimmign away happily. Glad to hear that the little one is so active and growing well.

Kali Oh no, more stress is what you don't need.Keeping fingers crossed fluid is OK next time. As you say, what an nightmare pregnancy altogether. Hugs
basgetti I'm so glad to hear your news. Baby must be in a weird positon!
muddylettuce and GettheRedOutIt's horrible to feel particularly vulnerable and being seen in such a state by anyone, no matter how close, is so humiliating.
Meerka I called mine The Bile Bowl (grinkkkk}. It was part of a broken
food processor - and I felt like a broken food processor myself...
Hope everyone is coping. Good luck for scans and stuff being sorted at work.
xx

Doltty Lots of people on here get anxious about the odd good day - as others say, what a horrible conundrum to be in; feeling terrible and longing for it to stop, or feeling a bit better and worrying.
xx

Lucinda yes they've called it an 'oblique breech' as she is head up but sort of diagonally across so nothing is sitting in the pelvis. I got a bit upset last night, my anxiety is quite bad at the moment and the thought of a section scares me. Also the recovery involved with another child to look after! Trying to think of all the positives.

Kali poor you, it's so unfair how much you're having to go through. I really hope your next scan shows good results and you can have a bit of a reprieve for the last few weeks.

Hope everyone else is doing okay xx

basgetti I would feel worried about a CS too, BUT I've heard really good things about women's experience of an ELCS - that it's very calm and reassuring, as there's no rush/emergency everything happens slowly and is clearly explained and that it is easier to recover from because you are prepared for it and it isn't an emergency op after hours in labour, so you go in stronger. Does it help to have a date to count down to?

Hi kali yes in some ways it's good to know I won't be sitting around on christmas day waiting to go into labour, I can plan and organise things better. I'm also desperate to get this pregnancy over with as I'm feeling pretty rough again at the moment, every time I cough I retch and I'm struggling to be too mobile now. DP had to leave for work early this morning and I nearly kept DS off because the school run was so daunting! I managed it in the end but now lying down feeling sore and sick.

They did say they will scan me the morning of the op and if she has turned they will cancel and send me home, but I think that would be the worst of both worlds tbh, once I've psyched myself up I will just want to get it over with!

Afternoon everyone :)

I was just wondering if people in the third tri were finding they were sick out of nowhere??? Is have stopped feeling nauseous (hurrah) but just randomly I will eat/drink something that then hits my stomach and comes straight back up.....I get no warning - it seems abit strange! This morning was a cup of squash, the other day some porridge, some crumpets on another day. These are all things I've eaten/drunk recently without any problem, and like I said I don't even feel nauseous they just come straight back up. I can then try to drink/eat something else straight away and they stay down no problem!

I am tortured by hg. Have tablets and had drip. What else can I do

I haven't been on the thread for a while so thought I would post a quick update, this is my third week of being signed off work, been back to the docs and they have signed me off until January now. Still taking the ondansetron which has reduced my sickness but not got rid of it completely. I am still being sick around 10 times a day. My Weight is still dropping but I am managing to keep bits of food down.

BUT

I my spirits lifted yesterday as we went for a private scan and saw our baby for the first time, everything as it should be at this stage and heard heartbeat etc. Amazing to think something so small can make me feel so rubbish!

helloladies1 Welcome; not sure what meds you are on, but they can try a variety and combine them - doesn't sound as if they're getting on top of the problem, lots of people find a combination helps? People on here know a lot more about meds than I do, but also think of ringing 024 7638 2020 and they will have a retired doctor phone back who is really sympathetic and helpful from what people on this thread say. They'll be able to advise you how to get more effective treatment, which should aim to make life bearable for you. Is this your first pregnancy? Have you got kestostix?
Hellohelohowareyou Ten times a day sounds very b ad - surely, with that level of vomiting, they should try adding meds which can help? How are the ketones testing?
fraggle That sounds awkard - but by-passing the nausea isn't so bad; I've heard it can be due to lack of room in the stomach at this stage?
Kali Great advice. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you over the amnio fluid thing.
basgetti Perhaps this baby is an athlete! I hope baby either turns before then, or your experience of the CS is a brilliant one; you deserve a break.
Waves to all.
Back soon.
xx

I am on ondansetron and cyclozine. Vomiting stopped but stretching still horrible and I feel tortured. I have barely energy to eat but I can eat so I probably do not have ketones. I just need more help to be able to function. Can I bring that retired doctor anytime? I am desperate