The elderberry copter thread #4, for all your hand holding, sausage wanging and burger toning. Entrance criteria: ttc#1 for >12mths, prev berry experience preferable but not essential

[BlindKitty]

New home, as requested!

Jess I think they will know, it comes back on the results from the clinic in America and then the clinics here transcribe the results onto their own form/email. When my results were given to me (over the phone) they double checked before reading it out, and said they wouldn't send the original results from America to me if I hadn't wanted to know

Sid - any luck with the GP?

jess ooh you can't leave us in suspense! I think we're all more desperate to know that you are!

bunny there won't be anything boring about your scan pic! Think its a fab idea! How about getting a card to 'nana' instead?
Didn't tell anyone I was pregnant in a special way but I made crackers at Christmas with 'it's a girl' inside!

merk I'll only let go of my crown if you promise not to be as bad as the girl on obem on mon asking if she was going to die !

So been for newborn snuggles today. Mate told me how she had to go to another hospital across town as there were no beds where she'd planned to go. Then they tried to send her Dh home (an hr away) because it was night time and she was in early labour. He refused to go and she gave birth 50 minutes later!!!

Sid sorry you're feeling pants. Was the GP any help?

Bunny yay for the grand reveal!

Had a major bit of a probably hormonal meltdown today, just can't stop brooding about the fact that if these twins don't turn (which they don't seem to want to do, currently both transverse which is even worse than before!) I'm stuck with an early section which was the very last thing I wanted, (I spent our unsuccessful TTC months mentally planning my lovely home waterbirth). I know, I know, I KNOW it doesn't matter how they get here and it's a safe arrival that counts but it doesn't stop me bursting into tears every so often and it's putting a downer on my last few pregnant weeks . I'm actually angry at the babies for being so bloody stubborn like their mother!

Anyway I know I'm being illogical and, dare I say it, somewhat mental, but I just wanted to have a little vent. All this prompted by Mr Boom texting to say his mother has booked flights over on the 8th 'since you'll probably be having a section around then'.. Just feel all the mystery and excitement is being sucked out of it. Feel free to smack me around the chops with a sausage or two..

Apologies for 'me, me, me' post!

Oh boom that's crap too. Lots of hormones flying round the copter today.

oh boom, I can understand completely why you'd be feeling
like that. it's such a big thing to be having a baby and everyone has their own plans and dreams. however, try to look at it like this. you are getting 2 amazing little babies out of this, and it will happen one way or the other. it might not be ideal but, you will get there!!!

Boom I truly understand. I know the logic is about the babies arriving safe, but how they get here will obviously be important to you. I would say let it out and have a really big cry/tantrum as you may unfortunately need to let it go (and grieve a bit for the birth you wanted). Best to get your head around it beforehand so you can save the happy hormones for when they're here. I'm sorry it isn't looking positive x
Don't suppose there's anyone like my chiro you could try who specialises in turning babies?

boom how do both babies become engaged? I don't get it! What about pregnancy yoga? My teacher says to do it every day in the last 6 weeks

boom no advice but hope your feeling a bit better today, hopefully things will work out.

merk how many weeks r you? I need baby to hang fire until 39 weeks 'cos im hoping to work til then!

in extremely exciting news today im 28 weeks! officially 3rd trimester! woooop!

Had midwife apt yesterday and all good and my anti d is next week. good job I chased it up 'cos they r saying they sent a letter... so far most pregnancy care I have had has been reasonably rubbish!

puppy if you're anything like me say good bye to spot-free 2nd trimester skin! My skin has morphed into a pepperoni pizza right before my photo shoot today grr!!!

Morning all.
sid and boom how are you feeling?

I can safely say that cereals in the early hours are definitely more delicious.

But I now have no idea which way babykit is facing or indeed that it has a normal anatomy maybe breech back-back by what it feels like..?!

Drink something cold Thunder and wait for the kicks. If you were breech back to back kicks would be low. More likely its rotated a little so the lump at the top which may appear to be a head is knees or feet pushed out

There aren't really kicks. But there is something pokey and moveable sticking out the front at the top, sometimes. Other times it's just all solid at the top... and then I feel nudges right round the right side and pokes in my left hip. Maybe it's an octopus after all.

It's amazing how many different places get kicked. I'm still getting side to side movement but mw said baby was upside down getting ready so I'm confused about that.

Morning all!

kitty it's a girl crackers sounds ace!

Awwww boom I'm not surprised you feel blue, especially with your job you must have had a plan in your head and when the situation changes it sucks. Just concentrate on those beautiful babies you will have at the end of it x

Lol at babyThunderOctupus

Scan letter came this morning, am dreading the whole drink a litre of fluid an hour before thing, I struggle drinking that in a day! And I still have nightmares about the full bladder embryo transfer when I was in pain coz I needed the loo so badly!

How many weeks are you now tally?
my baby is still very much spinning and dancing about in all directions. They say most active between 24-28 weeks, we will be 26 weeks tomorrow.

A litre bunny??? Sure it's not a pint?

Oo foody I loved 26 weeks (the sound of it- still felt cack), such a nice solid number

*bunny don't worry too much, mine said the same! think they suggest that much so you manage about a third to half.
Don't over do it or you probably will end up needing a pee just before the scan and your efforts will be wasted.
I aimed for a couple of glasses and about half an hour or so before, not an hour! there is usually water in the waiting room too

Bunny just go to the loo before you leave and sip a bottle of water (750ml) on the way. As long as you've had half of that you will be fine. You're better with an under full bladder (they will simply ask you to drink some more) than an over full bladder (they can ask you to try and empty it partially which I think is impossible)!

I can't believe it's so much! Mine said a pint and even then bladder was too full. Sono said partially emptying is crazy so I had the full wee and was fine

Foody I'm 34 weeks now, so hoping she stays put!
My sonographer always seemed surprised my bladder was so full, which kind of annoyed me as it blatantly should have been!

Ooh tally, it must feel so different than 10 weeks ago (as if that's not obvious)
Had to laugh the other day- my brother is getting married the weekend we are due so i have had it in my head that we are just not going. I don't need the extra stress thinking about what might or might not have happened, how we would get there or deal with labour, birth etc if were away( its 5 hours from here) OH does not drive.
Anyway despite being honest with everyone that we won't be going and it will be a shame...
He sent a text the other day " you never know,it might come a week early"
Really! As if I will want to be dealing with all of that a week after the birth :-)

Ooh tally, it must feel so different than 10 weeks ago (as if that's not obvious)
Had to laugh the other day- my brother is getting married the weekend we are due so i have had it in my head that we are just not going. I don't need the extra stress thinking about what might or might not have happened, how we would get there or deal with labour, birth etc if were away( its 5 hours from here) OH does not drive.
Anyway despite being honest with everyone that we won't be going and it will be a shame...
He sent a text the other day " you never know,it might come a week early"
Really! As if I will want to be dealing with all of that a week after the birth :-)

Oh yes, trying to keep a week old baby fed and quiet throughout the day. That would be so much fun!!

Well today was nice. Dh took dog for a walk while I had a skype call from my dad, then we did some cleaning. Dh went to work after lunch and I spent the rest of the day on the sofa with the dog. Nothing in the house to eat, so I cobbled together sweetcorn pancakes and now I'm eating chocolate spread from the jar. Nutritious eh?

Thanks ladies, will def take your advice! I was in agony waiting for the transfer and had to have a half wee and even after that the doc said I could have wee'd a bit more!

Mmmmm choccie spread

Question, I know stretch marks can't really be stopped but how early did you start moisturising the bump and what do you recommend using?