Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

chaffinch are you in Holland too or did I misread that?!

Yes, we could all meet, sickbuckets at the ready this is a lovely thread though, eeveryone is so nice.

lucinda the thought of beer is vomit inducing sigh, and even if I felt up to it I don't think I would have a drink during pregnancy. No problem if others want to have a wine or beer. Not that I have a choice, it would come back up soo fast.

But the beaches here are so fab and very civilised. I envisage nice long sunny days on the beach this summer with the baby enjoying a beer or two. Dh doesn't drink and does the driving whoop so I always feel on holiday when we go to the sea!

Hello

I'm not sure if I should be here or not –confused about whether my morning sickness qualified as hyperemesis. I could keep food and liquid down, so I think probably not. I did lose about 5% of my body weight in the first 16 weeks, have been sick all the way through the pregnancy, and it seems to be creeping back again at 35 weeks, but you ladies have had it far worse than me and I just want to say that you are heroes for coping.

What prompted me to post was solidarity with the "have you tried a ginger biscuit?" remarks. If I ever hear that again, I will not be responsible for my actions

living I think Lucinda meant lime corona - the 80s pop stuff rather than beer

Hi calamity agree fucking ginger biscuits don't ever do anyone any bloody good - tis a rumour put about by McVities to boost sales to preggo women . congrats on week 35 - what kind of birth are you hoping for?

also living I'm in the west midlands of England, sorry- not Holland. Ive never been, would like to visit old Amsterdam, one day though.

chaffinch hahaha I don't remember that pop drink! I was thinking of the tasty beer I can't wait to have in June if anyone ever comes over to see meerka and me that would be fun!

Amsterdam is very pretty but full of stoned stag dos gawping at the prostitutes so I felt a bit embarrassed! Still have a few museums and galleries I want to go and see there. I'm going to take the baby to get cultured, stare at some van goughs etc. Dh is from Rotterdam and you wouldn't believe the hate each city has for the other so I never get to go :(

calamity I spent 3 euro bloody 50 on a pack of ginger nuts after making Dh drive all the way to the British store which was 40 minutes away and promotly puked it up. Most expensive ginger nut ever I am sure of it. Welcome and sorry you are still suffering. I don't have vomiting any more but get nausea pretty badly which is not fun. All welcome here :)

Perk of the job chaffinch

hi calamity and welcome.

From what people ahve posted, quite a few find the sickness getting worse again in the last month or two ( or in my case this time, last 3 months, bleh and ugh). Like doomfinch says, even 6 weeks seems a hell of a long time ... but at least it's not the full 30 that someone who's only 10 weeks has to go through!

if you'd like some deeply satisfying cutting replies to some of the idiocies said to people suffering serious nausea and vomitting (and you def qualify if you lost that much weight, whatever the formal cutoffline for HG is) ... Have a look here what to say when

can't actually come out with them myself but OHHH they did echo round my head a lot. Though I did manage to say to one woman who recommended ginger that it was like pissing on a volcano.

Good evening puke crew.

Vomiting 3/day ish at the minute Lucinda, but managing full meals and keeping them down most evenings so feeling better. Averaging 3 pints fluid a day and about 1500 calories I think.

GTT today was bearable. Getting up early/lack of sleep is a trigger for me so when I got up this morning I vomited yesterdays dinner from 9pm. I'm pretty convinced I won't have been technically fasted... Then the test itself: i advised the midwife there was a chance i might vomit, to which she helpfully stated "you do know the test is void if you vomit?" No sh1t. Then there were many attempts at getting blood, then drinking about 350ml of thick flat chemically lemonade. I sipped it very slowly over 5 minutes, and the midwife remarked that she'd have to down it because the taste would make her ill. I smiled and nodded.
Despite a very hairy first 90 minutes of breathing techniques, essential oil sniffing and sighing I kept it down for the full 2 hours! I could easily have brought it back up, but i think i'm just too British and overly sensitive to the other 40 people in the waiting room! I brought at least half of it back up less than an hour later at home though. So the second reading won't show a 'full dose response' if that makes sense...
Anyway, it's done.

Jen hope this is it, fingers crossed for you.

starry hope today was OK. Thanks for the tip about posted sicknotes. I'll ask at the gp but you can't even do phone repeat prescriptions at my gp so i'm not hopeful.

somedizzy good luck for tomorrow.

CalamityJane Welcome, sorry it's come back, it does so hate to leave so many women...Five per cent of body weight is a fair bit. Congratulations on being near the end, anyway.
livingzuid and Chaffinch The lime pop drink of yesteryear is what I meant, but I haven't seen it in years, must have imagined that you had it over in Amsterdam. Come to think of it, that would be pretty sickening, too.. Beer - the thought of it fora sufferer[green].

Petitelapin As if you had any choice about vomiting - it so annoys me when some medics seem to think you choose to do it... Glad it somehow went OK.
Meerka Pissing on a volcano- lol. If it's any comfort, this idiocy isn't confined to Hyperemesis suggestions - several people have asked me re my migraines if I have tried Pharacetomol?
elizabethsmum waves.
Got to go to Welsh in a hurry...
xx

petite your big mistake was not vomitting over the midwife. I suspect that it's amazing how quickly they take HG seriously when that happens.

Hahaha. It is now my intention to use the pissing volcano response at next opportunity. Brilliant :-)

mutter craving bitter stuff atm. chicory, grapefruit, kalamata olives, anything bitter

Hi guys, may I join you? So so glad I found you as the girls on the october ante natel thread (as supportive as they are) really don't seem to have a clue.
I'm 6wks 4 days and have already been into hospital for fluids on monday. Still struggling in the mornings even with meds. Off work for this week so I can get some energy back.
How have you all coped with going back to work etc? This is my first pregnancy and not having a great time so far!

I would also like to mirror the ginger biscuit thing, complete rubbish! I'm fed up of tasting ginger biscuits going the wrong way. Yuck!

oh gosh, already in hospital at 6 1/2 weeks? :( it sounds like you've got it bad.

It seems likely that if it's this difficult now, you're in for a rough few weeks at best though most people do improve around week 15 - 21. Some people have managed to work through this nausea .. god only knows how . Are you on any meds, mrsb? I really hope the hospital gave you some. there's quite a few that can be helpful ranging from quite mild to pretty heavy duty. All of them are considered safe for use.

You -are- entitled to ask for them and should be prescribed them. All doctors are supposed to follow the guidelines published by the governmental body National Institute for Clinical Excellence cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy#!topicsummary.

ALso, the websites Mother Hen posted in the OP have some good hints on how to eat and drink, and what to eat and drink. They may help.

Yes I was prescribed cylizine sunday morning from the ooh doc but that hadnt made a blind bit of difference by sunday night so fluids monday morn. They have put me on another one to act as a top up inbetween taking the cylizine so I'm medicated to the eye balls currently!
Been better yesterday and today, only time im struggling at the moment is first thing when I first wake up, nothing is stopping the puking then.

The main thing I'm worrying about is getting through work, if I dont work I dont get paid, dh is self employed and he doesnt earn a lot. We have a mortgage and a few debts (like everyone!). I know worryingis going to make me worse but I'm just struggling to know how we're going to get through it.
Sorry to have to whinge but I'm getting a bit lonely at home on my own with only my thoughts!

cyclizine is the weakest, its often paired with B6 as they seem to work well together. what else are you on now? Some people end up on a cocktail. Again, these are all tried and tested drugs, for all that officiallly the companies won't say 'safe in preg' ... they're terrified after Thalidomide, which would never have been licensed under the testing regs now. Can provide more detailed info if you like.

It may be necessary to go back to the doctor and take your husband with you and point out the situation re work. If you work for someone else then you are protected by law during preg, inscluding preg-related sickness; if it's a work -or-no-pay situation its naturally a bit different :s

Do have a good look at those links, specially the NICE one, and the section called Goals.

If the doctor is not helpful, then either try to get another one or ring the helpline of the site Lucinda linked in the OP; they will ring you back when you've left a message. There is an elderly, very experienced doctor there who can help you get meds.

Just looked and the other drug is prochlorperazine.
smells is a real issue. I only have to get a waft of damp dog (I've got 3)and I've had it.
I work for a quite a large fashion company called Fat Face. I'm given a certain amount of sick pay/year but I think thats all gone by now. I will talk to my doctor, thanks Meerka.

Hi Mrsb87 sorry you feel so crappy; the early weeks are utter hell. I got hospital at week 9 in both of my HG pregnancies, so poor you at week 6 joking! haha.
agree you need better harder drugs, ondansatron has saved my life.

Should I still feel really sick and nausiated or should they be stopping it all together? If they should be stopping it they're doing a great job

Chaffinch I had a scan at the hospital and they could only see one heart beat....she didn't rule out the possibility of another bean lurking around though!

even the top line drugs cant quite combat the nausea, unfortunately, just stop the vomming in diff ways

avomine and similar work as travel sickness remedies, to calm balance areas of the brain... ondansatron works to stop the vom reflex in the brain, is mainly for people having chemo to stop the vomming side effect

the nausea can be partly psychological for me; when Im at work it seems less as i'm concentrating hard, maybe try and do some online puzzles/sudokus and see if you can de-focus on nausea

the other trick to banish nausea is to constantly continually nibble - salty snacks good...

sucking barley sugar / random sweets
lollipops
ice lollies
cereal bars

Hi mrsb87 sorry you are so sick. My medication takes away the sickness but not the nausea. It has subsided since week 17 but evenings are still a bitch.

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