Hyperemesis Support

[LucindaE]

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.

There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.

MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos/
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk/
If you need help in obtaining medication, this phone number is
brilliant:
024 7638 2020

I would like to thank Everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.

Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

[ChaffinchOfDoom]

to those with small kids worrying - they won't remember! this pregnancy is but a snapshot in their wonderful childhoods - give yourselves a break - you are creating the BEST ULTIMATE gift you could EVER give them - a sibling
My vomming has meant dd and ds much less scared of vomming - it's just a thing mummy does 'cause of the new baby squelching up my tummy (they're 7 & 5 so bit older) all you can do is reassure you're OK, and they seem to have selective memories..
when you feel a tiny bit better you can slowly do more stuff... fast forward to maternity leave and making your biggie feel amazing and proud of the new baby Awwwww! also do the thing where the baby buys older sib a ''present'' when theyre born - thinking snap cards for my oldest and a monster truck of course for ds

[ChaffinchOfDoom]

[Sally8655]

Found you all :-)


Sorry I've not had a chance to post, I've been in a constant cycle of feeds and nappy changes!

I've tried to upload a pic but for some reason it won't let me. Ill keep trying.

Jayden is doing really well, sleeping all day and up at night which is a pain but breast feeding is getting a bit easier. Still really sore but I can at least get a feed without screaming and crying with pain!
They really don't tell you how hard it is when selling the benefits .
I'm so glad I've persevered though.

Nausea crept back a bit yesterday, think i was a bit adventurous with my food choices. Lesson learnt!

Hope all are ok and another baby appears soon, think its Jen due next!!

Xxxx

[Tallyra]

Sally, I'm so glad you are doing well!!! I'm dreading the bf problems. Hoping my little one takes to it straight away
I'm currently lying in bed with what I hope is a 24hr bug while baby kicks me in the uncomfortable guts

Lucinda, could you add my date please? Due 17th April.

[LucindaE]

Lauranne Welcome, nice to meet you, sorry you are suffering . I so remember that about the Puking and Peeing - while the Spitting puts the final touch on the misery,plus, as you say, Helpful Suggestions.
IWorry and Meerka I so agree with Chaffinch Youmustn't feel guilty - I stopped at one but I know from what people have said on this and another thread that LO's do forget it all very quickly - they are more resilient than we realize, because their minds are so fluid -having a sibling is a lifelong gift. IWorry Being sick in the street is so . Hugs. People ought to have been grateful that at least you managed to hold on to reach the loos in the shopping centre! Three miscarriages is tough, I found one bad enough.
Sally Lovely to hear from you, glad Jayden is flourishing, sorry for horrible reminder of nausea, I think it takes time for the body to get used to eating again.
Tallyra Poor you, a twenty four hour bug and being kicked in the stomach!
Dizzy I am dismayed at the patchiness of the healthcare for women with this -it seems almost as if midwives don't read their notes or half the time don't know how serious condition is - I'm sure baby is flourishing if all the scans have been OK so far, but they should be reassuring at the hospital.
Livngzuid Sorry that nausea is keeping you in bed.
Hope Petitlapin is Ok, and Stars What SliceofLime and everyone. Apologies if cross posted, rudely overlooked.
xxx

Due Dates
Jen 15 February (nearly a Valentine's Day present)
Chaffinch 25 March
Tallyra 17 April
Meerka 30 April
Livingzuid 6 June
PunkStar 8 June
Lauranne 14 July
SliceofLime 2 August
IWorry 8 August
What 14 August.

[somedizzywhore1804]

Hi all

Just wanted to update you. I've torn a muscle in my face from vomiting no wonder I'm in bloody pain. The whole weekend has been being sent from pillar to post between dentists (who were bemused as I have such nice teeth! ) and the walk in centre and finally a and e. Eventually the 9th doctor I've seen this week diagnosed the problem.

Unfortunately there's nothing they can do but manage the pain so I'm back at home on painkillers and feeling very sorry for myself. I can't eat more than ever now.

Sigh.

[petitlapin1]

Dizzy I'm living in a parallel world to you I think... I've been struck down by the depression too. GP referred me to counselling but at the start of our 2nd session last week the counsellor turned round and said it was perfectly normal and rational to be depressed with all the vomiting,that she normally dealt with people who could improve by changing their viewpoint and that she'd refer me to the more suitable perinatal mental health team instead.

Just finished strong codeine pills for a dental abscess, still on the antibiotics which are making the vomiting worse. The pain was what landed me in hospital last week as I couldn't eat eiher. Custard pots worked OK for me as non chewy calories.

Thanks Lucinda, I've had a lovely weekend away at my mums near Chester, marred only by my inability to keep anything down today- including the anti-emetics. Managed half a sandwich and a glass of water tonight but Ketostix on hand for the morning, might be another day hooked up to the fluids. My positive for the weekend was the discovery that strawberry pavlova is another "tastes the same both ways" food. My due date is 20th May and it can't come soon enough!

Lauranne we've all experienced the pelvic floor horrors of a strong vomit... Or cough, or sneeze! Sympathy hugs here!

[somedizzywhore1804]

Oh petit! You have my unending sympathy. More than anything I'm so worried about baby and all the codeine. I hope it's ok. Worrying myself stupid as well as being sad and in pain.

[petitlapin1]

Thanks Dizzy. Depression's only really evident at the minute when i'm heaving or in pain. I'm not sure how far along you are and if you're feeling movements yet, but mine haven't been affected by the meds- that's the thing the docs are concerned about with opiates, that they make baby's heart rate go down, make baby drowsy or, in later weeks, that baby comes out addicted (and even that's treatable). My midwife said 60mg codeine 4 times a day was safe for me and baby, in conjunction with 1g paracetamol 4 times a day. At my worst I staggered the pills so I could take something every 90 minutes, even through the night!

Lots of muscle-healing protein if you can (eggs or cheese spread if they're still on the menu?), with rest and a cool compress on the muscle. X

[somedizzywhore1804]

That's exactly the dose I'm on. I'm 19 weeks on Tuesday and no movement yet which is beginning to panic me. But I'm always panicked right now.

[somedizzywhore1804]

I'm 18 weeks on Tuesday. Getting ahead of myself!

[Iworrymyselftosleep]

Och dizzy tearing a facial muscle you've scared me as I've had some times when I've felt that close to doing some damage what with vomiting so hard and now I have a new idea what that damage could be. You have my utter sympathy - how painful and just rotten and a sign that they don't really have the vomiting under good enough control (imvho). Some as they don't need chewing.

petit an abcess sounds very painful too. Have some for you too.. It makes me angry when doctors think that getting depressed as you're vomiting x times a day and feeling sick all the bloody time is an unreasonable response to the situation. I can feel my moods getting a little more dragged down each day and no damn wonder - I left the house for the first time in ages for a non essential trip on a day I felt okish and vommed in the street. Who wouldn't take it to heart after seven solid weeks of puking extravagantly?

Anyone else find the pre-vomit period to be to most uncomfortable? I know I'm going to be sick. I know it's not yet and I have to stay awake until it gets a move on. I feel dreadful, propped up in bed and listening to the wind howl.

[livingzuid]

petit that's awful I hope it's a bit better today.

dizzy ouch that's just terrible disgnosis so glad you got there in the end.

As to the depression I'm not probably the best person to comment because if my thyroid and or bipolar medication is even slightly out of whack I'm living in a doom scenario! When my hg was at its worst though I just felt too sick and tired to manage any emotion. Which was tough for my Dh but he was wonderful and understood. I just feel blessed that I don't have to work because the stress from the made illness worse. So if you can get signed off I'd recommend that!

Just for some reassurance to all those worried about popping pills, I've been on pretty hardcore medication since conception + my antihistamine based hg from week 9 and the baby is such a wriggler and all is going well so far. It's worrying and I kicked up such a fuss when they wanted to increase my dosages but rationally they wouldn't give us stuff that was high risk for the baby.

worry meerka lauranne tally better days today?

sally that's lovely to hear he's doing so well and the breastfeeding going good at last. I can't breastfeed :( so I hope it continues to go well for you :)

Amy word from MoG? Is her baby OK?

[LucindaE]

Oh no, SomeDizzy and Petitlapin people are suffering horribly¬ Abcesses - torn muscles - I can only recommend rubbing on arnica for the torn muscle, in jaw, I suppose? But I don't even know if it's allowed in pregnancy.
IWorry I think that 'I'm going to be sick - and soon' feeling is the worst of all. And in the night, when you feel so lonely. It's awful to be up in the night with your head down the loo, when everyone else is asleep. This Gothic weather doesn't help. Hugs.
I remember a doctor told me once that depression and being fed up and miserable and feeling helpless about something awful happening to you are not the same, though they may feel like it. The last will clear up when the situation improves as a matter of course. Is that what they might mean? I know how insensitive and brisk medics can be, though. Constant vomiting is exhausting and frightening, and there's the worries about the effect on the baby and the fear of the public humiliation on top of it all.
Lauranne and Everyone Dare I ask how things are today?
xx

[LucindaE]

Livinzuid Cross posted! Wise words.
xx

[livingzuid]

Is the weather awful back home? That does have an impact. Dare I say the sun is shining here and it's (finally) a beautiful day! Taking the dog out in a minute for my compulsory exercise :)

[Meerka]

tore a muscle in your face? dizzy how horrible :( hope it heals quick!

not too good here, still way better than the worst times but feeling very dragged down by my incapacity to do anything at the moment and by the nausea / vomitting late afternoons / evenings. still, it -is- a lot better than many people have it. And I think of Sally and MOG with beautiful babies .... How is Eve doing, moG?

[jenpatnim]

For those of you fretting about movement, I didn't feel movement until 22 weeks or so, and the wee bugger hasn't sat still since. So don't worry!

I am struggling here towards the end - the SPD is horrendous, I am not sleeping well AT ALL, either unable to sleep and sitting up all night or waking every couple of hours to chug peptac liquid. This is leaving me tired and emotional all day, feeling weepy and grumpy. Plus I am definitely in a state of low mood/depression that I recognise all too well (clinical depression for the last 15 years, usually medicated but off them until baba comes).

Plus the ever pervasive nausea.

I have the doctor tomorrow to check my blood pressure, and the hospital on Monday to do an internal (and hopefully cervical sweep) if there has been no progress.

I would try a long walk but I can't walk the length of myself with this bloody pelvic pain. I haven't been posting over the last day or two as I have felt too miserable (that's the depression again - withdrawing from others) but I thought I would check in today...

[Sally8655]

Just popping in to say hi, had a but if a catch up and really feel for you all.
Wonder how MOG is getting on too, hope all is ok.
Jen I know your pain, it's awful. I hope the sweep is possible and your baby arrives soon!

It really does get better, even though its been such a struggle it's all worth it :-)

[LucindaE]

Jen Hugs. You are probably fed up with people saying 'the end is nigh' - in the sense of the end of the pregnancy, not the end of the world -but I think the first and last bits are the hardest for people who have this throughout or have it come back, like an unwelcome visitor, at the end. You must be so tired! You've been really brave about the depression, too - not to mention the SPD. Do you like baroque music I ask because it's meant to put you in a sort of elevated mood by making the two sides of the brain work together. Do vent all you like, that's what this thread is for.
Livingzuid and Meerka Yes, appalling weather generally in the UK - torrential rain, floods, gales going on since before Christmas, some places have had the isolated dry days, I think. I don't understand why it is rain rather than sleet as it's quite cold.
I hope Everyone's sufferings are slightly improved. I'm thinking about MurderofGoths too, but it seems wrong to pester her.
xx

[LucindaE]

Sally Cross posted, hugs, thanks for lovely message of encouragement.
xx

[Meerka]

Jen I do hope you feel better .. .can you take paracetamol at all?

anything you'd recommend baroque-wise, lucinda?

[LucindaE]

Meerka Ooh, don't encourage me! Bryn Terfel singing Hadel's arias,
Bach's 'Brandenburg Concertos' Handel's 'Water Music' and I believe any Mozart is meant to have the same effect. I've got a CD I love recorded by the Academy of Ancient Music conducted by Christopher Hogwood
with pieces Pachelbel, Corelli, etc...Stop me or I'll keep on...
xx

[LucindaE]

Meerka That was meant to be 'Handel' !
How is Everyonefeeling?
xx

[SliceOfLime]

Oh dear just catching up and looks like everyone is having a tough time - thinking of you all, and absolutely agree that feeling depressed is a rational response in the circs.

14 weeks today ...